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Posted: 3/30/2014 9:31 PM

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Badger fan here still basking in the glow of my team's huge win last night. Great run by you guys and congrats on making the Final Four. Curious as to how you guys see the matchup in the National Semifinal. I think it will another nail biter and I've already ordered a fresh supply of adult diapers. What concerns me most about UK is their length. What is your biggest concern as fans about Wisconsin?
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Posted: 3/30/2014 9:36 PM

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I think it comes down to how big a game Kaminsky has.  We hold him 15-18, I think we win.  25+, I say u have it.

I really hate playing u guys.  I have great friends that went there.  We'll be watching together Saturday.   They're in my top 3 non-UK schools.
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Posted: 3/30/2014 9:38 PM

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Whisky is a very fundamentally sound bball team that shoots the ball well.  What concerns me most is probably the shooting or great play of 7 footer.
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Posted: 3/30/2014 10:00 PM

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Yeah, I guess you really need to focus on Kaminsky first and foremost but I actually think your length and the number of bodies you can throw at him will slow him down. I'd probably take 15-18 points from Frank and feel pretty good about our chances. Despite the fact that Kaminksky put us on his back and carried us past Arizona, we are actually a very balanced scoring team. Brust can go off for 18+ points at any time (he did it 8 times this year) and Dekker is the same way, although not as much lately. I'm really concerned about keeping UK off the offensive glass. If Wisconsin can limit them to 1 shot 75% of the time, a big if to be sure, I like our chances.

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Posted: 3/30/2014 10:06 PM

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Hey your guys aren't exactly short lol. And I think they shoot better than MI but you also have bigs doing it. Hell now we have to figure out how to play a better game somehow. So far so good on that front, so yet another good game to play.
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Posted: 3/30/2014 10:21 PM

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LOL! Good point. This is really an intriguing matchup on multiple levels.

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Hey your guys aren't exactly short lol. And I think they shoot better than MI but you also have bigs doing it. Hell now we have to figure out how to play a better game somehow. So far so good on that front, so yet another good game to play.

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Posted: 3/30/2014 10:27 PM

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It was fun watching you guys beat Arizona. 
janderson182 wrote: Badger fan here still basking in the glow of my team's huge win last night. Great run by you guys and congrats on making the Final Four. Curious as to how you guys see the matchup in the National Semifinal. I think it will another nail biter and I've already ordered a fresh supply of adult diapers. What concerns me most about UK is their length. What is your biggest concern as fans about Wisconsin?
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Posted: 3/30/2014 10:43 PM

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You're telling me! I couldn't sit still the last 15 minutes of game time and I would have literally thrown up if we would have lost at the end. These chances don't come around as often in Madison as they do in Lexington and last night was a pretty special moment for the whole state. That being said, we only lose one contributing player (Brust) off this year's team and I would expect the Badgers to be one of the favorites to return ti the Final Four next year.

So is every one of your freshmen one and done or do you expect a couple of them to return? I'm sure you'll have a few good players coming in next year regardless.

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It was fun watching you guys beat Arizona. 
janderson182 wrote: Badger fan here still basking in the glow of my team's huge win last night. Great run by you guys and congrats on making the Final Four. Curious as to how you guys see the matchup in the National Semifinal. I think it will another nail biter and I've already ordered a fresh supply of adult diapers. What concerns me most about UK is their length. What is your biggest concern as fans about Wisconsin?


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Posted: 3/30/2014 11:37 PM

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Personally....I think we'll lose Julius Randle and Willie Cauley-Stein. Young and the twins will come back.
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Posted: 3/31/2014 8:44 AM

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Would have much rather play AZ than Wisconsin if that tells you anything...But congrats to your Wisconsin team making the finial 4.
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Posted: 3/31/2014 9:13 AM

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The fun talk has started with a couple of UK alums who are good friends of mine. UK has turned out to be under seeded at 8, they'll be a load to deal with but it should be a great game.
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Posted: 3/31/2014 9:20 AM

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bleedbluetwo wrote: Would have much rather play AZ than Wisconsin if that tells you anything...But congrats to your Wisconsin team making the finial 4.
This is a really good point.  Arizona is a better match up for Kentucky.  I am amazed that Wisc beat Arizona.  Wisc had some really fine performances that allowed them to win.  But their size is more difficult than Arizona's size would have been.

The game is about match ups.  Arizona I  would  have given the edge to but for their defense.  Wisc I think will lose to Kentucky but the match ups could give them an edge if  they get really fine performances.

Avg Wisc game loses to an Avg Ky game.  Match up problem a plus six for Wisc.  Other factors a plus ten for Kentucky.

My line would be that Kentucky is favored by four.  If Wisc gets a performance like theirs against Arizona for two games I would favor Wisc for the championship.
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Posted: 3/31/2014 9:29 AM

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Kaminski is fun to watch, it is a difficult matchup without Willie. Although, Lee can be an x factor though with his athletic ability.
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Posted: 3/31/2014 1:41 PM

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Great discussion here, and civil...no trolls yet!

Your last statement gives me some confidence because outside of Kaminsky obviously having a great game and Koenig hitting a couple of big shots, the rest of the Badgers really didn't play all that well offensively against Arizona.  Brust had a really difficult time getting open against Arizona's tough defense and Gasser had a really bad game shooting (although his defense was terrific as usual).  Sam Dekker didn't do much of anything offensively.  I'd expect to see a much more balanced scoring attack on Saturday night.  Can't wait!
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My line would be that Kentucky is favored by four.  If Wisc gets a performance like theirs against Arizona for two games I would favor Wisc for the championship.
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Posted: 3/31/2014 4:22 PM

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I don't know as much about Wisc..  From what I have seen, Kaminsky has a really good game.  Willie would be very helpful with his size and speed.  Without him, it will be difficult to match up with Kaminsky.  I do not believe Dakari has a chance on the perimeter.

With that said, Dakari can possibly get Kaminsky in foul trouble.  Lee would likely be destroyed on the interior by Kaminsky.

I expect that UK will end up going small (Randle 6'9", Poy 6'8", Young 6'6", and the twins 6'6") more often than not. 

It will be interesting to see what happens with Wisc. guarding the Cats.  Wisc. does not have great speed or size, but play defense as a unit.  Stopping dribble penetration will be key for Wisc.. Also, Wisc. will have to hold the Cats off the offensive boards.
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Posted: 3/31/2014 5:22 PM

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it's gonna be a great close game. my heart just can't take all these last second shots. it makes me a nervous wreck. lol
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Posted: 3/31/2014 6:01 PM

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I'd have to disagree with you about Wisconsin's speed.  I think you will be surprised by how quick Gasser, Jackson, Brust, and Koenig are at the guard spots, particularly on defense.  Also, they're not the size of the Harrison twins but I believe all 4 of them are 6'2" to 6'3" (maybe Brust is 6'1").  It's not like the Badgers have a bunch of 5'10" guards running around!

That being said, your next statement is absolutely spot on.  Stopping dribble penetration will be key for Wisconsin to be successful...has been all year.  Hell, we lost at frickin' Indiana because we couldn't keep them out of the lane.  Of course, that was when the flu was going around the locker room and the start of our 1-5 stretch. 
kyjustice wrote: I don't know as much about Wisc..  From what I have seen, Kaminsky has a really good game.  Willie would be very helpful with his size and speed.  Without him, it will be difficult to match up with Kaminsky.  I do not believe Dakari has a chance on the perimeter.

With that said, Dakari can possibly get Kaminsky in foul trouble.  Lee would likely be destroyed on the interior by Kaminsky.

I expect that UK will end up going small (Randle 6'9", Poy 6'8", Young 6'6", and the twins 6'6") more often than not. 

It will be interesting to see what happens with Wisc. guarding the Cats.  Wisc. does not have great speed or size, but play defense as a unit.  Stopping dribble penetration will be key for Wisc.. Also, Wisc. will have to hold the Cats off the offensive boards.
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Posted: 3/31/2014 6:06 PM

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I'm not too worried about Kaminsky. The teams that have beaten us this year have done so with Gs and SFs leading the way in scoring.
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Posted: 3/31/2014 6:13 PM

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kyjustice wrote: I don't know as much about Wisc..  From what I have seen, Kaminsky has a really good game.  Willie would be very helpful with his size and speed.  Without him, it will be difficult to match up with Kaminsky.  I do not believe Dakari has a chance on the perimeter.

With that said, Dakari can possibly get Kaminsky in foul trouble.  Lee would likely be destroyed on the interior by Kaminsky.

I expect that UK will end up going small (Randle 6'9", Poy 6'8", Young 6'6", and the twins 6'6") more often than not. 

It will be interesting to see what happens with Wisc. guarding the Cats.  Wisc. does not have great speed or size, but play defense as a unit.  Stopping dribble penetration will be key for Wisc.. Also, Wisc. will have to hold the Cats off the offensive boards.
If Kaminsky gets in foul trouble, we're in big trouble. As someone else said in this thread, he put the Badgers on his back the other night. One big strength of this team is that five guys (actually 6 or 7) can and do score. Since UK will undoubtedly  have a plan for Kaminsky our other guys have to do more than they did against AZ. I think Bo Ryan has this factor covered. It'll be up to the players to execute.
I also want to second another poster here re no trolls - yet. So far this is a great civilized intelligent discussion (what a concept!). Let's hope it stays that way all week?
Good luck to both teams (hopefully just a point or two more to the Badgers). It should be a great game, one of those "too bad somebody had to lose" games.
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Posted: 3/31/2014 6:20 PM

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Janderson-  I was not intending to indicate that the Badgers were slow by any means.  I actually used the modifier of "great" on purpose.  What little I have watched, the perimeter players appear to be plenty athletic, but I was trying to indicate that they had good but not great speed.  They do not appear to be guys that will break you down and blow by people, e.g., Yogi at IU. 

The Badgers appear to get to the basket by screening and cutting than dribble penetration. 

With that said, you would know more than me.
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Posted: 3/31/2014 6:32 PM

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I think the Badgers ability to score with every player is a huge asset.  This is one of UK's assets too.  Just going on memorey; the Cats have 5 players that have scored at least 20 points in a contested game. 

I think an area that will be interesting to watch is UK's guarding of the 3.  The Badgers have 5 or 6 legit threats from the 3 line.  The Cats have a tendancy to sag off shooters when the ball goes inside.
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Posted: 3/31/2014 7:33 PM

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Wisconsin reminds me of Kentucky this year in that all the experts continually wrote them off.  All they've done in the tournament is win and win big.
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Posted: 3/31/2014 9:21 PM

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CatFansince73 wrote: Wisconsin reminds me of Kentucky this year in that all the experts continually wrote them off.  All they've done in the tournament is win and win big.
I'll raise a glass of Wild Turkey to this post!
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Posted: 3/31/2014 9:32 PM

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I'm more worried about playing Wisconsin than I was about playing Wichita, Louisville, or Michigan.
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Posted: 3/31/2014 9:34 PM

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Is WCS definitely out of the final 4??

Last i heard  Coach Cal said "likely out".  That sounds like 60-40 out to me, with a chance he could play.
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Posted: 3/31/2014 10:01 PM

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Cal said on the call-in show tonight Willie will not play in FF.
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Posted: 3/31/2014 10:03 PM

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I think Cal knows that Marcus Lee is a more than capable back up to Dakari.
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Posted: 3/31/2014 10:14 PM

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Willie would be great vs Kaminsky. Its a shame willie got hurt in the middle of our final four run because he would make things so much easier in this game and potential championship game. Kaminsky is a matchup problem and the key to the game imo. I just dont think they can beat us without a really big day from him, not just his points but his rebounds too. We should be able to win the battle of the boards by a significant margin.

We need marcus to step up and play big. He will be a factor in winning or losing this one and alex will be critical as well
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Posted: 3/31/2014 10:40 PM

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No, you're right on about that. Koenig is probably the quickest with the ball, but nobody on the Badgers is Yogi quick. Is anyone on UK that quick? I sort of assume the answer is no since your guards are so big. If the Harrison's are as fast as Yogi we could be in trouble!

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Janderson-  I was not intending to indicate that the Badgers were slow by any means.  I actually used the modifier of "great" on purpose.  What little I have watched, the perimeter players appear to be plenty athletic, but I was trying to indicate that they had good but not great speed.  They do not appear to be guys that will break you down and blow by people, e.g., Yogi at IU. 

The Badgers appear to get to the basket by screening and cutting than dribble penetration. 

With that said, you would know more than me.

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Posted: 3/31/2014 11:01 PM

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KU??? Wrong team there j. I take it as an honest mistake but as a bball fan there is a world of difference between KU and UK. 😉
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No, you're right on about that. Koenig is probably the quickest with the ball, but nobody on the Badgers is Yogi quick. Is anyone on KU that quick? I sort of assume the answer is no since your guards are so big. If the Harrison's are as fast as Yogi we could be in trouble!

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Janderson-  I was not intending to indicate that the Badgers were slow by any means.  I actually used the modifier of "great" on purpose.  What little I have watched, the perimeter players appear to be plenty athletic, but I was trying to indicate that they had good but not great speed.  They do not appear to be guys that will break you down and blow by people, e.g., Yogi at IU. 

The Badgers appear to get to the basket by screening and cutting than dribble penetration. 

With that said, you would know more than me.

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