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Harrow at point

Posted: 12/8/2012 12:20 PM

Harrow at point 


Goodwin looks awful .25 through this Portland game. His awareness on the floor is pathetic thus far. Harrow is more the pure PG. He needs to step up and claim the position.
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Posted: 12/8/2012 12:54 PM

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I agree 100%. Goodwin is better off the ball at the 2
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Posted: 12/8/2012 1:18 PM

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I just don't think they have one at this point. Both are extremely flawed right now. We'll see after the holiday break if they've improved during "Camp Cal."
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Posted: 12/8/2012 2:14 PM

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Harrow starting to play much better basketball. This is the best game he has played in quite some time. Maybe all year.
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Posted: 12/8/2012 2:19 PM

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i never have had any worry about the pg position once harrow puts the time in . He was a beast at ncsu and will be one here . I do think he will keep the starting line up though but by minute 2 of every game harrow will be in will play point for 80% of the game similar to today .
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Posted: 12/8/2012 2:19 PM

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Absolutely his best game of the year, and whats best is he seemed to find his rhythm in the second half. He hit a few shots, he made some excellent passes. Thats all we need out of him, and it is well within his abilities if he will just settle down and play.
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Posted: 12/8/2012 3:19 PM

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Once harrow gets back in the groove UK will be better. Harrow was no beast at NC state though, you're confusing him with someone else
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Posted: 12/8/2012 3:50 PM

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He doesn't need to be a beast. Today's game was a nice progression for him and a good example of what we need from him, a distributor that takes care of the ball. The one area I would like to see him improve is defense. We need an on ball defender at the point who can stop the other teams from penetrating the lane. Harrow has the speed to do this, over the next few weeks we will see if he has the desire.

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Posted: 12/8/2012 5:02 PM

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They look a lot better with Harrow on the floor. I'd like to see the two bigs work better but so far our best lineup has been Harrow, Goodwin, Mayes, Poythress and one of the bigs. Better.
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Posted: 12/8/2012 9:24 PM

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He seemed to get into the game,  dribbling the ball through his legs,  behind his back,  he for whatever reason seemed to stop being timid.  I was worried that his missed shots would allow him to crawl into a hole but he didn't.  It was actually nice seeing the ball thrown from the top of the key to the wing without it taking gymnastics to catch the ball.  If Harrow improves the next two games as much as he did tonight,  he will be a big help against ul.
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Posted: 12/9/2012 12:29 PM

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Badinage wrote: Goodwin looks awful .25 through this Portland game. His awareness on the floor is pathetic thus far. Harrow is more the pure PG. He needs to step up and claim the position.

100% Right^^^^        John Wall or Brandon Knight isnt walking thru that door but Ryan can do this and we need him to take this position and...RUN with it!


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Posted: 12/10/2012 1:28 AM

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canecatintally4edu wrote: i never have had any worry about the pg position once harrow puts the time in . He was a beast at ncsu and will be one here . I do think he will keep the starting line up though but by minute 2 of every game harrow will be in will play point for 80% of the game similar to today .
Not sure who gave you the impression that Harrow was a "beast" at NCSU (what an odd description for little Urkel, one of the meekest players I've ever seen), but you've been misinformed. Harrow was actually pretty bad as a freshman at NC State, and he had a bad habit of backing down from challenges.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 4:29 AM

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I honestly am beginning to question whether Harrow is the caliber of player needed at UK to keep the Cats at the top. He didn't show that much at NCST but he was playing for Sid Lowe so that's not surprising. I hope he can get it done because he seems like a good kid and he's given a lot to the program so far but I'm waiting on conformation based on his on court performance which I haven't seen yet. Guess we'll all find out soon.....
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Posted: 12/10/2012 7:32 AM

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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:15 AM

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chargerbomb wrote:
canecatintally4edu wrote: i never have had any worry about the pg position once harrow puts the time in . He was a beast at ncsu and will be one here . I do think he will keep the starting line up though but by minute 2 of every game harrow will be in will play point for 80% of the game similar to today .
Not sure who gave you the impression that Harrow was a "beast" at NCSU (what an odd description for little Urkel, one of the meekest players I've ever seen), but you've been misinformed. Harrow was actually pretty bad as a freshman at NC State, and he had a bad habit of backing down from challenges.
yeah, 9.3 points, 3.3 assists, in 23 minutes of play average....HORRIBLE....take your sour grapes elsewhere dude, you sound like a kid on the playground who got his lunch money stolen.
 
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Posted: 12/10/2012 11:40 AM

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Harrow is leaps and bounds ffrom where he needs to be and truthfully where he should be. He does not play good defense and he has no confidence at all on offense. He had a decent game on Saturday but that was against Portland. Personally I think it is a shame that he has wasted his opportunity at UK. He had a whole year in the system and should have been locked in on what needs to be done. He should have been much stronger and much more ready to be an impact player. If he does not transfer after this year, he will never play meaning full minutes at UK. I really hope that he can somehow pull things together and be what we need him to be.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 12:08 PM

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I have to say since he has come back, he’s gotten better each game. The Portland one was by far his best yet. Now what we have seen this season on the court from him doesn’t match up with some of the reports we were getting last year out of practice. But different people react in different ways. I hope he continues down this road of improvement, cause if the Cats are to go anywhere he’s going to have to lead them!!!  Goodwin is great but isn’t a PG. And Polson will have his times, but is overmatched too often. RH is the PG. How far we go will all fall on how he does at the point. He embraces it, plays within himself, doesn’t listen to the crowd, and just does what he does I think we’ll be fine. He is capable of doing the things the TEAM needs him to do for them to be successful. Still lots of ball to be played!!

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Posted: 12/10/2012 12:56 PM

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MyTeam8Rings wrote:
chargerbomb wrote:
canecatintally4edu wrote: i never have had any worry about the pg position once harrow puts the time in . He was a beast at ncsu and will be one here . I do think he will keep the starting line up though but by minute 2 of every game harrow will be in will play point for 80% of the game similar to today .
Not sure who gave you the impression that Harrow was a "beast" at NCSU (what an odd description for little Urkel, one of the meekest players I've ever seen), but you've been misinformed. Harrow was actually pretty bad as a freshman at NC State, and he had a bad habit of backing down from challenges.
yeah, 9.3 points, 3.3 assists, in 23 minutes of play average....HORRIBLE....take your sour grapes elsewhere dude, you sound like a kid on the playground who got his lunch money stolen.
Oh, right, I stand corrected.  9 points and 3 assists per game on a terrible NC State team.  What a BEAST!  Imagine if he had been able to make more than 22% of his 3's, or hit more than 39% of his shots overall.  He would've been... a SUPERBEAST!
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Posted: 12/10/2012 1:55 PM

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You must really dislike Ryan to feel the need to comment about him on a UK message board. I am sure he is glad he is in Lexington. You are happy. He is happy. Seems you could let it go.

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chargerbomb wrote:
canecatintally4edu wrote: i never have had any worry about the pg position once harrow puts the time in . He was a beast at ncsu and will be one here . I do think he will keep the starting line up though but by minute 2 of every game harrow will be in will play point for 80% of the game similar to today .
Not sure who gave you the impression that Harrow was a "beast" at NCSU (what an odd description for little Urkel, one of the meekest players I've ever seen), but you've been misinformed. Harrow was actually pretty bad as a freshman at NC State, and he had a bad habit of backing down from challenges.
yeah, 9.3 points, 3.3 assists, in 23 minutes of play average....HORRIBLE....take your sour grapes elsewhere dude, you sound like a kid on the playground who got his lunch money stolen.
Oh, right, I stand corrected.  9 points and 3 assists per game on a terrible NC State team.  What a BEAST!  Imagine if he had been able to make more than 22% of his 3's, or hit more than 39% of his shots overall.  He would've been... a SUPERBEAST!

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Posted: 12/10/2012 2:38 PM

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chargerbomb wrote:
MyTeam8Rings wrote:
chargerbomb wrote:
canecatintally4edu wrote: i never have had any worry about the pg position once harrow puts the time in . He was a beast at ncsu and will be one here . I do think he will keep the starting line up though but by minute 2 of every game harrow will be in will play point for 80% of the game similar to today .
Not sure who gave you the impression that Harrow was a "beast" at NCSU (what an odd description for little Urkel, one of the meekest players I've ever seen), but you've been misinformed. Harrow was actually pretty bad as a freshman at NC State, and he had a bad habit of backing down from challenges.
yeah, 9.3 points, 3.3 assists, in 23 minutes of play average....HORRIBLE....take your sour grapes elsewhere dude, you sound like a kid on the playground who got his lunch money stolen.
Oh, right, I stand corrected.  9 points and 3 assists per game on a terrible NC State team.  What a BEAST!  Imagine if he had been able to make more than 22% of his 3's, or hit more than 39% of his shots overall.  He would've been... a SUPERBEAST!
as a FRESHMAN averaging 23 minutes a game... again, you sound like you are crying on the playground because someone stole your lunch money. Go search your board's archives at how good your fans thought Harrow was going to be as a sophomore...before he transferred, and now all of a sudden he sucks, for real man, quit crying over it, move past it....
 
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Posted: 12/10/2012 3:39 PM

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MyTeam8Rings wrote:
chargerbomb wrote:
MyTeam8Rings wrote:
chargerbomb wrote:
canecatintally4edu wrote: i never have had any worry about the pg position once harrow puts the time in . He was a beast at ncsu and will be one here . I do think he will keep the starting line up though but by minute 2 of every game harrow will be in will play point for 80% of the game similar to today .
Not sure who gave you the impression that Harrow was a "beast" at NCSU (what an odd description for little Urkel, one of the meekest players I've ever seen), but you've been misinformed. Harrow was actually pretty bad as a freshman at NC State, and he had a bad habit of backing down from challenges.
yeah, 9.3 points, 3.3 assists, in 23 minutes of play average....HORRIBLE....take your sour grapes elsewhere dude, you sound like a kid on the playground who got his lunch money stolen.
Oh, right, I stand corrected.  9 points and 3 assists per game on a terrible NC State team.  What a BEAST!  Imagine if he had been able to make more than 22% of his 3's, or hit more than 39% of his shots overall.  He would've been... a SUPERBEAST!
as a FRESHMAN averaging 23 minutes a game... again, you sound like you are crying on the playground because someone stole your lunch money. Go search your board's archives at how good your fans thought Harrow was going to be as a sophomore...before he transferred, and now all of a sudden he sucks, for real man, quit crying over it, move past it....
I'll admit that fans over at PackPride are almost as delusional as you guys, but by the end of Harrow's freshman campaign even those silly homers were sick of the guy and his gutless play.  

No one shed a tear when he transferred.  From the sound of it, he was contemplating transferring again just a few weeks ago because he couldn't handle the pressure coming from Calipari.  He's a sensitive little dude and he doesn't respond well to criticism.  Seems like he would be better suited at a mid-major, where the spotlight isn't so bright.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 3:59 PM

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charger bomb, 

I think you are a mid-major fan:  not ready for Div l.
chargerbomb wrote:
MyTeam8Rings wrote:
chargerbomb wrote:
MyTeam8Rings wrote:
chargerbomb wrote:
canecatintally4edu wrote: i never have had any worry about the pg position once harrow puts the time in . He was a beast at ncsu and will be one here . I do think he will keep the starting line up though but by minute 2 of every game harrow will be in will play point for 80% of the game similar to today .
Not sure who gave you the impression that Harrow was a "beast" at NCSU (what an odd description for little Urkel, one of the meekest players I've ever seen), but you've been misinformed. Harrow was actually pretty bad as a freshman at NC State, and he had a bad habit of backing down from challenges.
yeah, 9.3 points, 3.3 assists, in 23 minutes of play average....HORRIBLE....take your sour grapes elsewhere dude, you sound like a kid on the playground who got his lunch money stolen.
Oh, right, I stand corrected.  9 points and 3 assists per game on a terrible NC State team.  What a BEAST!  Imagine if he had been able to make more than 22% of his 3's, or hit more than 39% of his shots overall.  He would've been... a SUPERBEAST!
as a FRESHMAN averaging 23 minutes a game... again, you sound like you are crying on the playground because someone stole your lunch money. Go search your board's archives at how good your fans thought Harrow was going to be as a sophomore...before he transferred, and now all of a sudden he sucks, for real man, quit crying over it, move past it....
I'll admit that fans over at PackPride are almost as delusional as you guys, but by the end of Harrow's freshman campaign even those silly homers were sick of the guy and his gutless play.  

No one shed a tear when he transferred.  From the sound of it, he was contemplating transferring again just a few weeks ago because he couldn't handle the pressure coming from Calipari.  He's a sensitive little dude and he doesn't respond well to criticism.  Seems like he would be better suited at a mid-major, where the spotlight isn't so bright.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 5:03 PM

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Well then I guess that Little Urkel and I have something in common.


WKMMradio wrote: charger bomb, 

I think you are a mid-major fan:  not ready for Div l.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 5:25 PM

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Hopefully when Ryan is all grown up, he won't waste his time bashing kids on the internet.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 5:29 PM

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chargerbomb wrote: Well then I guess that Little Urkel and I have something in common.


WKMMradio wrote: charger bomb, 

I think you are a mid-major fan:  not ready for Div l.
Little Urkel could spot you 8, play to 10, and beat you by 4.....
 
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Posted: 12/10/2012 7:29 PM

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No way that guy is over the age of 14.

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Posted: 12/11/2012 3:32 AM

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let me be more clear when i said beast i was referring to his talent more then his play every game per se but i watched ncstate play maybe 15 times and he was amazing at times and average at other times . But his potential and raw athleticism and skill was never in question . there's a reason sites such as nbadraft.net have him being drafted .
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Posted: 12/11/2012 12:03 PM

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If Harrow peaks his potential and does a complete 360 to turn things around he would be a late second round pick if he was ridiculously lucky.  He is really no where near NBA ready and I dont think he will get to that point this year.  That being said, I hope he does get better to the point he can contribute to make our team the best they can be.
canecatintally4edu wrote: let me be more clear when i said beast i was referring to his talent more then his play every game per se but i watched ncstate play maybe 15 times and he was amazing at times and average at other times . But his potential and raw athleticism and skill was never in question . there's a reason sites such as nbadraft.net have him being drafted .
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Posted: 12/11/2012 8:09 PM

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FunkBrothers wrote: I honestly am beginning to question whether Harrow is the caliber of player needed at UK to keep the Cats at the top. He didn't show that much at NCST but he was playing for Sid Lowe so that's not surprising. I hope he can get it done because he seems like a good kid and he's given a lot to the program so far but I'm waiting on conformation based on his on court performance which I haven't seen yet. Guess we'll all find out soon.....
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Posted: 12/12/2012 7:30 PM

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MyTeam8Rings wrote:
chargerbomb wrote:
canecatintally4edu wrote: i never have had any worry about the pg position once harrow puts the time in . He was a beast at ncsu and will be one here . I do think he will keep the starting line up though but by minute 2 of every game harrow will be in will play point for 80% of the game similar to today .
Not sure who gave you the impression that Harrow was a "beast" at NCSU (what an odd description for little Urkel, one of the meekest players I've ever seen), but you've been misinformed. Harrow was actually pretty bad as a freshman at NC State, and he had a bad habit of backing down from challenges.
yeah, 9.3 points, 3.3 assists, in 23 minutes of play average....HORRIBLE....take your sour grapes elsewhere dude, you sound like a kid on the playground who got his lunch money stolen.
i thought the same when i saw those numbers but then i checked the game by game and noticed his good numbers were against bad team. When he played against good teams almost all the time his numbers made a nice sized dip.

With that said it is up to him how good he will be, kind of like Alex. Both players seem to have confident issues but with Alex he is so physically gifted that he can get by more so when he doesn't feel real confident. Harrow goes into a shell when his is down and he let's it get him physically sick. And yes that is can happen when you don't feel confident or feel depressed you're body can make you physically ill
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