Pretty clear the refs were informed that a UL/Duke Final will sell the TV rights to this tourney next year for more money. They aren't exactly making bad calls, they just aren't calling anything.... UL body rides the ball handler the full length of the court on every possession.

UNI isn't helping themselves, missed a ton of wide open 3's, and about 6 uncontested lay ups... I hope when we play UL they call all these reaching fouls, and especially the body rides... its pretty hard to bring the ball up court when you have a shoulder bumping you the whole way

UNI heating up, hitting their wide open jumpers... 6 point game with about 4 and a half left.

3 point game, UNI shooting an and1 for a chance to cut it to 2 with about 3 minutes left... they have done an excellent job of taking the paint away, turned the ball over a ton but that has a lot to do with UL being allowed to body check all game long...they also missed a ton of wide open shots, including lay ups.... Honestly UNI should be up by 15 right now.

1 point game, 2 minutes left

Refs bailed them out, UNI pulls a rebound, guy gets mugged, ref calls held ball possession UL with 6 seconds left... UNI should have been shooting free throws with a chance to tie it up.

Refs weren't calling much on the other side either, so let's keep it real here. Sorry your guys lost.

MyTeam, you know there's not a snowballs chance in hell that they'll play like that against us!! They will be hitting shots from Main St!!!!

CatFever49 wrote: Refs weren't calling much on the other side either, so let's keep it real here. Sorry your guys lost.

Which favors UL's body ride/slap/reach style of defensive play yes? And the call at the end was complete garbage... Sorry UL can't shoot, and a team finally took the paint away because they aren't 6'6, and forced UL to try to beat them from outside the paint, which Louisville couldn't do, without a little help form the refs, and a lot of help from UNI missing wide open layups. That was UNI dude, that wasn't Missouri, Duke, Syracuse, Georgetown, and it sure the  heck wasn't UK. Louisville is NOT a very good team, and the first time they weren't playing mary saint francis school of the blind with 6'6 power forwards that they could dominate in the paint, they showed it...don't be mad, UNI did exactly what I said they would, they took the paint away and forced UL to miss a bunch of shots from the outside.... UNI simply beat themselves on the offensive end by laying balls on the front of the rim on wide open drives.... UNI isn't a great team, they were just the first NORMAL sized team UL played this year...what happened? It took a ref making a horrible call at the end of the game to save them.

MyTeam8Rings wrote:

CatFever49 wrote: Refs weren't calling much on the other side either, so let's keep it real here. Sorry your guys lost.

Which favors UL's body ride/slap/reach style of defensive play yes? And the call at the end was complete garbage... Sorry UL can't shoot, and a team finally took the paint away because they aren't 6'6, and forced UL to try to beat them from outside the paint, which Louisville couldn't do, without a little help form the refs, and a lot of help from UNI missing wide open layups.

You're just eating sour grapes. I know a loss feels bad, but it wears off after a while.

CatFever49 wrote:

MyTeam8Rings wrote:

CatFever49 wrote: Refs weren't calling much on the other side either, so let's keep it real here. Sorry your guys lost.

Which favors UL's body ride/slap/reach style of defensive play yes? And the call at the end was complete garbage... Sorry UL can't shoot, and a team finally took the paint away because they aren't 6'6, and forced UL to try to beat them from outside the paint, which Louisville couldn't do, without a little help form the refs, and a lot of help from UNI missing wide open layups.

You're just eating sour grapes. I know a loss feels bad, but it wears off after a while.

I am not a UNI fan, I am a UK fan.... I just knew UL wasn't going to be able to play well against a team that didn't have 6'6 power forwards....and they didn't. UNI was just the first normal sized team they faced, they have 1 maybe 2 losses coming the rest of the way in this tourney

MyTeam8Rings wrote:

CatFever49 wrote:

MyTeam8Rings wrote:

CatFever49 wrote: Refs weren't calling much on the other side either, so let's keep it real here. Sorry your guys lost.

Which favors UL's body ride/slap/reach style of defensive play yes? And the call at the end was complete garbage... Sorry UL can't shoot, and a team finally took the paint away because they aren't 6'6, and forced UL to try to beat them from outside the paint, which Louisville couldn't do, without a little help form the refs, and a lot of help from UNI missing wide open layups.

You're just eating sour grapes. I know a loss feels bad, but it wears off after a while.

I am not a UNI fan, I am a UK fan.... I just knew UL wasn't going to be able to play well against a team that didn't have 6'6 power forwards....and they didn't. UNI was just the first normal sized team they faced, they have 1 maybe 2 losses coming the rest of the way in this tourney

Was you the one that thought UL would lose this one? Truth is, none of us know until the game is played. UK has had some close ones too, when they should have been blowouts. It happens. Louisville went up by 18 points and then started their silly ways, with Luke and Gorgy(sp) trying to shoot from long range. They gave momentum back to a pretty good UNI team, who didn't want to loose. Sort of like Morehead State.

CatFever49 wrote:

MyTeam8Rings wrote:

CatFever49 wrote: Refs weren't calling much on the other side either, so let's keep it real here. Sorry your guys lost.

Which favors UL's body ride/slap/reach style of defensive play yes? And the call at the end was complete garbage... Sorry UL can't shoot, and a team finally took the paint away because they aren't 6'6, and forced UL to try to beat them from outside the paint, which Louisville couldn't do, without a little help form the refs, and a lot of help from UNI missing wide open layups.

You're just eating sour grapes. I know a loss feels bad, but it wears off after a while.

I am sorry your real team looked horrible tonight bro, don't worry about it, Maybe UNI is just THAT good, Maybe its normal for the #2 team in the nation to get pushed to the wire by a team that needed OT to beat Toledo... its all good, your redbirds will be ok as soon as they get back to the rest of their 21 home games against second rate teams with 6'6 power forwards. In the mean time, I hope they don't lose to Mizzou tomorrow, I am looking forward to watching Duke beat them by 30

MyTeam8Rings wrote:

CatFever49 wrote:

MyTeam8Rings wrote:

CatFever49 wrote: Refs weren't calling much on the other side either, so let's keep it real here. Sorry your guys lost.

Which favors UL's body ride/slap/reach style of defensive play yes? And the call at the end was complete garbage... Sorry UL can't shoot, and a team finally took the paint away because they aren't 6'6, and forced UL to try to beat them from outside the paint, which Louisville couldn't do, without a little help form the refs, and a lot of help from UNI missing wide open layups.

You're just eating sour grapes. I know a loss feels bad, but it wears off after a while.

I am sorry your real team looked horrible tonight bro, don't worry about it, Maybe UNI is just THAT good, Maybe its normal for the #2 team in the nation to get pushed to the wire by a team that needed OT to beat Toledo... its all good, your redbirds will be ok as soon as they get back to the rest of their 21 home games against second rate teams with 6'6 power forwards.

You might want to consider humbling yourself just a little. You know UK has some tough games coming.

CatFever49 wrote:

MyTeam8Rings wrote:

CatFever49 wrote:

MyTeam8Rings wrote:

CatFever49 wrote: Refs weren't calling much on the other side either, so let's keep it real here. Sorry your guys lost.

Which favors UL's body ride/slap/reach style of defensive play yes? And the call at the end was complete garbage... Sorry UL can't shoot, and a team finally took the paint away because they aren't 6'6, and forced UL to try to beat them from outside the paint, which Louisville couldn't do, without a little help form the refs, and a lot of help from UNI missing wide open layups.

You're just eating sour grapes. I know a loss feels bad, but it wears off after a while.

I am not a UNI fan, I am a UK fan.... I just knew UL wasn't going to be able to play well against a team that didn't have 6'6 power forwards....and they didn't. UNI was just the first normal sized team they faced, they have 1 maybe 2 losses coming the rest of the way in this tourney

Was you the one that thought UL would lose this one? Truth is, none of us know until the game is played. UK has had some close ones too, when they should have been blowouts. It happens. Louisville went up by 18 points and then started their silly ways, with Luke and Gorgy(sp) trying to shoot from long range. They gave momentum back to a pretty good UNI team, who didn't want to loose. Sort of like Morehead State.

Yeah I am the one who thought UL would lose this game, it was a pretty unrealistic prediction wasn't it...I mean UL was up by 2 points with 6 seconds left and got a call go their way....I bet you thought UL was going to blow this team away like they did all the other exhibition type teams. I told you EXACTLY what was going to happen when they played UNI, I told you they WERE NOT going to dominate the paint against a team with NORMAL SIZED center's and Power Forwards, I told you if they continued to play the way they have been they were going to lose a bunch of games this year. 

You thought Louisville was playing well because they were "beating the soft teams the way they should be beating them" But I told you, I have been watching the games and the ONLY reason UL has been posting double digit wins against those teams is because Dieng,Harrell, and Behanan were able to absolutely dominate under sized front courts to make up for the lack of shooting.

What happened in their first game against a team that wasn't undersized in their front court? UL struggled, BAD..and UNI isn't a great team, they aren't even a very good team, they are an NIT team... I told you A- Louisville wouldn't be able to dominate UNI in the paint to make up for poor shooting, and they didn't. B-That if Louisville shot the way they have been shooting UL would lose.... my bad, it was a 2 point game with 6 seconds left, The #2 team in the nation against a team that dropped 14 games last to un-ranked teams, what a horrible call on my part right? 

You thought UL was playing great because they were beating teams like Samford by 26 points, I told you that Deing/Harrell/and Bahanan dunking on 6'6 guys wasn't playing great, and you would find out how good Louisville was when they played a normal sized front court, and I told you the first normal sized front court on their schedule was UNI.... how did Louisville look last night? 

There are two differences between UK and UL... A- UK is a team of freshmen who will get a whole lot better as the season progresses, these kids have played 4 NCAA games in their lives, and have never played the game with each other before. UL has a seasoned team, what you see is what you get, these guy are playing close to their ceiling.. and B- UK showed the ability to hang with top tier competition when they played Duke, Louisville has only showed the ability to be able to dunk on 6'6 power forwards.

Pack the paint, smother Russ Smith...let Hancock, Siva, Blackshear chuck up those ugly looking 3 point shots.. MAKE YOUR BUNNY SHOTS, and you can beat UL. If you get a set of refs that call those full court body rides and reaches...its the bonus plan.

MyTeam8Rings wrote:
In the mean time, I hope they don't lose to Mizzou tomorrow, I am looking forward to watching Duke beat them by 30

I'm hoping VCU takes care of dUKe.

BluegrassFan wrote:

MyTeam8Rings wrote:
In the mean time, I hope they don't lose to Mizzou tomorrow, I am looking forward to watching Duke beat them by 30

I'm hoping VCU takes care of dUKe.

That would work, VCU Beats Duke, Mizzou beats UL, Duke and UL play in the LOSER'S bracket... doesn't matter who wins because one of them takes a second loss and plays for 5TH place in a tourney that featured, VCU,UNI, Minnesota, Stanford... LOL.

MyTeam8Rings wrote:1. Yeah I am the one who thought UL would lose this game, it was a pretty unrealistic prediction wasn't it...I mean UL was up by 2 points with 6 seconds left and got a call go their way....2. I bet you thought UL was going to blow this team away like they did all the other exhibition type teams. 3. I told you EXACTLY what was going to happen when they played UNI, I told you they WERE NOT going to dominate the paint against a team with NORMAL SIZED center's and Power Forwards, I told you if they continued to play the way they have been they were going to lose a bunch of games this year. 

4.You thought Louisville was playing well because they were "beating the soft teams the way they should be beating them" But I told you, I have been watching the games and the ONLY reason UL has been posting double digit wins against those teams is because Dieng,Harrell, and Behanan were able to absolutely dominate under sized front courts to make up for the lack of shooting.

5. What happened in their first game against a team that wasn't undersized in their front court? UL struggled, BAD..and UNI isn't a great team, they aren't even a very good team, they are an NIT team... I told you A- Louisville wouldn't be able to dominate UNI in the paint to make up for poor shooting, and they didn't. B-That if Louisville shot the way they have been shooting UL would lose.... my bad, it was a 2 point game with 6 seconds left, The #2 team in the nation against a team that dropped 14 games last to un-ranked teams, what a horrible call on my part right? 

6. You thought UL was playing great because they were beating teams like Samford by 26 points, I told you that Deing/Harrell/and Bahanan dunking on 6'6 guys wasn't playing great, and you would find out how good Louisville was when they played a normal sized front court, and I told you the first normal sized front court on their schedule was UNI.... how did Louisville look last night? 

7. There are two differences between UK and UL... A- UK is a team of freshmen who will get a whole lot better as the season progresses, these kids have played 4 NCAA games in their lives, and have never played the game with each other before. UL has a seasoned team, what you see is what you get, these guy are playing close to their ceiling.. and B- UK showed the ability to hang with top tier competition when they played Duke, Louisville has only showed the ability to be able to dunk on 6'6 power forwards.

8. Pack the paint, smother Russ Smith...let Hancock, Siva, Blackshear chuck up those ugly looking 3 point shots.. MAKE YOUR BUNNY SHOTS, and you can beat UL. If you get a set of refs that call those full court body rides and reaches...its the bonus plan.

1. Considering that Louisville DIDN'T lose, yeah, I'd say that was unrealistic. What else could you call it?

2. I hadn't said anything about a blowout. Did you think UK was going to blow out Morehead State? They're a mid-major too, you know.

3. But you said when that happened, Louisville would lose. You were wrong. And to make yourself right, you now have to blame the refs.

4. Actually, I said Louisville's shooting wasn't all it needed to be, but I said that Hancock was the biggest reason for that. He proved it again last night, but he had a little help. Every team plays better against lesser competition.
I never said Louisville was a great shooting team, or that they wouldn't lose some games because of it. The REASONING you used to say Louisville was going to lose was what I said was flawed. Another case in point, Butler, a mid-major, destroyed NC. NC turns around and destroyes another mid Major, while Butler themselves gets destroyed by yet another mid-major. That's what I was trying to get across to you, that you can't predict these things. No one expected Louisville to do well last year, but they did.

5. Again, you said Louisville would lose in that situation. If Louisville had lost by the number they won by, you'd probably be saying you told me so. Shoot, you're trying to say that now, and they won. Like I told you before, Louisville played well enough to go up by 18. They didn't play great, except in streaks. Then they started their silly stuff, with a couple of guys trying to act like long range shooters when they're not. They lost the big lead to a scrappy team who was determined not to lose. You have to consider that this was a tournament. Teams turn it up in tournament situations.

6. Louisville won. How did they look? Really good in streaks, but overall they played poorly, a situation you said they would lose in. They didn't lose. BTW, how did UK play against Morehead State? Not their best, right? But they won.

7. I agree that UK's ceiling is higher than UL's, but everyone is still learning. Everyone is still practicing to get better. Yes, UK did indeed show great things against a power team. And then after that, they got played by a mid-major. This my whole point. Did you think UK was going to destroy Morehead State, because they played pretty well against Duke? That seems to be your reasoning, not mine.

8. That was the strategy you said would get Louisville beat last night. It didn't happen. But you're right, Louisville does have those weaknesses that they need to take care of. 
Those sour grapes don't taste good, even the next morning, do they.

Im confused. I thought you were a cat fan fever??? Whats with all the love for the ville??

Catfan if your a Kentucky fan then why are you again starting a fight to stick up for them AGAIN.  You were going along great now this?

Kingrexchapman3 wrote: Im confused. I thought you were a cat fan fever??? Whats with all the love for the ville??

I am a UK fan. I just don't think being a UK fan means you have to hate Louisville. Louisville is my 2nd team, behind the Wildcats. Nothing wrong with that.

bleedbluetwo wrote: Catfan if your a Kentucky fan then why are you again starting a fight to stick up for them AGAIN.  You were going along great now this?

STARTING a fight? I think you need to look again. I didn't start anything, I'm just responding to the starter. How was I going along great? Does parroting you guys mean going along great? How is it bad to respond to posts?

The Cards are Fever's team. He just comes here to bait.

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MyTeam, you know there's not a snowballs chance in hell that they'll play like that against us!! They will be hitting shots from Main St!!!!

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Badinage wrote: The Cards are Fever's team. He just comes here to bait.

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MyTeam, you know there's not a snowballs chance in hell that they'll play like that against us!! They will be hitting shots from Main St!!!!

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Well look, I caught a big mouth sucker.

Kingrexchapman3 wrote: Im confused. I thought you were a cat fan fever??? Whats with all the love for the ville??

He is a Louisville fan, his feelings are hurt because he knows every team on his team's schedule isn't UNI.... his feelings are hurt because it took the refs to save his team last night from getting beat by an NIT team... Its all good, I know who to laugh at now when Louisville starts playing teams that shut down the paint and make their bunny shots...

Face it, they just ARE NOT as good as everyone thought, Siva's offense didn't improve, Blackshear is NOT the stud everyone thought he would be, Hancock isn't the "Most pure shooter I have ever coached" that Rick Pitino over hyped him to be... the Loss of Chris Smith and Kyle Kuric made this team worse, not better... and his panties are in a wad because he is tired of looking up at that empty ceiling in that 400 million dollar arena...and he knows this year was supposed to be the best chance to take up a little space up there...but the realization that without shooters, UL isn't hanging anything is starting to set in, and its killing him.

MyTeam8Rings wrote:

BluegrassFan wrote:

MyTeam8Rings wrote:
In the mean time, I hope they don't lose to Mizzou tomorrow, I am looking forward to watching Duke beat them by 30

I'm hoping VCU takes care of dUKe.

That would work, VCU Beats Duke, Mizzou beats UL, Duke and UL play in the LOSER'S bracket... doesn't matter who wins because one of them takes a second loss and plays for 5TH place in a tourney that featured, VCU,UNI, Minnesota, Stanford... LOL.

Heck I dislike them as much as anyone, but your vitrol is off base. As a basketball fan you have to have some unbiased viewpoints.

The Atlantis tournament has been deemed the strongest of the tournaments. It includes 4 ranked teams - 2 in the top 10 and 1 in the top 15 and Memphis which lost but was a top 20 team.

It is difficult to really know where these teams rank since it is early.

Now it would have been funnier if you would have said ".....oesn't matter who wins because one of them takes a second loss because both are/would be losers".

MyTeam8Rings wrote:

Kingrexchapman3 wrote: Im confused. I thought you were a cat fan fever??? Whats with all the love for the ville??

He is a Louisville fan, his feelings are hurt because he knows every team on his team's schedule isn't UNI.... his feelings are hurt because it took the refs to save his team last night from getting beat by an NIT team... Its all good, I know who to laugh at now when Louisville starts playing teams that shut down the paint and make their bunny shots...

Face it, they just ARE NOT as good as everyone thought, Siva's offense didn't improve, Blackshear is NOT the stud everyone thought he would be, Hancock isn't the "Most pure shooter I have ever coached" that Rick Pitino over hyped him to be... the Loss of Chris Smith and Kyle Kuric made this team worse, not better... and his panties are in a wad because he is tired of looking up at that empty ceiling in that 400 million dollar arena...and he knows this year was supposed to be the best chance to take up a little space up there...but the realization that without shooters, UL isn't hanging anything is starting to set in, and its killing him.

They are one bad shooting team, even worse than last year.  They're averaging .406 on field goals, including .294 on three-pointers against a less-than-stellar schedule.  Right now they're surviving on turning their opponents over, and they're forcing 21 per game.  They're averaging 14 per games themselves though and when they start playing good teams or get into games where the hand checks and bumping fouls are called they'll be in trouble.  

If their offense comes around they might win a few games in the tournament, but it's hard to fix bad shooting.

CatFansince73 wrote:

MyTeam8Rings wrote:

Kingrexchapman3 wrote: Im confused. I thought you were a cat fan fever??? Whats with all the love for the ville??

He is a Louisville fan, his feelings are hurt because he knows every team on his team's schedule isn't UNI.... his feelings are hurt because it took the refs to save his team last night from getting beat by an NIT team... Its all good, I know who to laugh at now when Louisville starts playing teams that shut down the paint and make their bunny shots...

Face it, they just ARE NOT as good as everyone thought, Siva's offense didn't improve, Blackshear is NOT the stud everyone thought he would be, Hancock isn't the "Most pure shooter I have ever coached" that Rick Pitino over hyped him to be... the Loss of Chris Smith and Kyle Kuric made this team worse, not better... and his panties are in a wad because he is tired of looking up at that empty ceiling in that 400 million dollar arena...and he knows this year was supposed to be the best chance to take up a little space up there...but the realization that without shooters, UL isn't hanging anything is starting to set in, and its killing him.

They are one bad shooting team, even worse than last year.  They're averaging .406 on field goals, including .294 on three-pointers against a less-than-stellar schedule.  Right now they're surviving on turning their opponents over, and they're forcing 21 per game.  They're averaging 14 per games themselves though and when they start playing good teams or get into games where the hand checks and bumping fouls are called they'll be in trouble.  

If their offense comes around they might win a few games in the tournament, but it's hard to fix bad shooting.

Louisville may be the best defensive team in the country. That makes up for some of their shooting woes, which they definitely need to get a handle on, though most of that, as far as I can see, is on one or two guys. But they just might do better than you think.

CatFever49 wrote:

CatFansince73 wrote:

MyTeam8Rings wrote:

Kingrexchapman3 wrote: Im confused. I thought you were a cat fan fever??? Whats with all the love for the ville??

He is a Louisville fan, his feelings are hurt because he knows every team on his team's schedule isn't UNI.... his feelings are hurt because it took the refs to save his team last night from getting beat by an NIT team... Its all good, I know who to laugh at now when Louisville starts playing teams that shut down the paint and make their bunny shots...

Face it, they just ARE NOT as good as everyone thought, Siva's offense didn't improve, Blackshear is NOT the stud everyone thought he would be, Hancock isn't the "Most pure shooter I have ever coached" that Rick Pitino over hyped him to be... the Loss of Chris Smith and Kyle Kuric made this team worse, not better... and his panties are in a wad because he is tired of looking up at that empty ceiling in that 400 million dollar arena...and he knows this year was supposed to be the best chance to take up a little space up there...but the realization that without shooters, UL isn't hanging anything is starting to set in, and its killing him.

They are one bad shooting team, even worse than last year.  They're averaging .406 on field goals, including .294 on three-pointers against a less-than-stellar schedule.  Right now they're surviving on turning their opponents over, and they're forcing 21 per game.  They're averaging 14 per games themselves though and when they start playing good teams or get into games where the hand checks and bumping fouls are called they'll be in trouble.  

If their offense comes around they might win a few games in the tournament, but it's hard to fix bad shooting.

Louisville may be the best defensive team in the country. That makes up for some of their shooting woes, which they definitely need to get a handle on, though most of that, as far as I can see, is on one or two guys. But they just might do better than you think.

Its not one or two guys, its everyone at the 1,2 and 3 except Russ Smith... Their sesaon stats are horrible , and that is even with a decent shooting night for Siva and Blackshear against Miami...problem with that is, NC State and Grambling both shot over 42% from the 3 pt line as a team against Miami.... they give up a lot of wide open 3's, and teams tend to shoot a high percentage against them as a result.

UL versus Mizzou tonight, should be interesting, Mizzou is big, but without their best shooter...and the rest of their team is as bad as Louisville from the 3 pt line....should be an "exciting game" lol....

I wonder what the over/under combined is in Vegas for this game? I just checked, PFFFT, 135????? That would be like 68-67, TAKE THE UNDER!!!! TAKE THE UNDER!!!!!!! TAKE THE UNDER!!!!!!!!