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Raphus Cucullatus Southern Migration

Posted: 7/15/2014 7:36 PM

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The more and more I think about it my optimism for this season dwindles.

Howard has a lock on #1 rb...not good.

OL suspect on the edges.

Replacing just about every offensive skill position.

The D should be lights out, but I see a bunch of 3 and outs putting a ton of pressure on the D.

I'm thinking 8-4 or 9-3. Losses to UGA, FSU, UL (they're gonna be good), and I hate to say it but Scar. That OL is sick nasty with plenty of proven skill players.
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Posted: 7/15/2014 9:32 PM

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You lost me at 'Howard has a lock on the #1 rb....not good'.

If you believe that, well....

The O will be fine. The running game will be better than last year, Stoudt is cooler than Boyd and a better decision maker, the OTs will be fine and so will the WRs. Leggett is going to be a lethal weapon which will open things up all over the field.

The thing about having a Sammy or Spiller is that coaches tend to lean on a guy like that too much. Teams that are semi successful at taking those guys away can beat you. I'm looking forward to spreading the ball around more and having a better ground game. The D is going to take a lot of pressure off the O this year, and it's about damn time.

Last edited 7/15/2014 9:36 PM by RockerCat

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Posted: 7/15/2014 9:35 PM

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Read Roy's WWAH and it might change your mind.

FSU is the only real punch in the castines I can see coming.

Not the end of the world if we drop the two early games and finish strong and beat the coots with Watson showing glimpses of the greatness we're expecting.

Just another sign of how far we've come as there are no more "rebuilding" years.

I've got a similar mindset to Rocker's....divas tend to overshadow the solid foundation that's been built (not a slight on CJ, Watkins or Morris).

Last edited 7/15/2014 9:38 PM by fhellandjr

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Posted: 7/15/2014 9:47 PM

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The big thing to me is when you have a defense like we're going to have this year, you don't have to have a home run threat 'every time he touches the ball'. As much fun as those guys were to watch, it's not efficient football. You get in a ton of 'track meet' score-a-thons because your D gets tired when you score so quick. Sustaining some drives and pounding the other D into submission with a punishing running game is the way to go. Passing is important too, but when you score quick, a calm collected opposing coach knows the clock is his friend and your D is suspect.

A punishing running game and a punishing D has worked for the Pittsburgh Steelers for 4 decades, a handful of seasons notwithstanding. And we still have the ability to quick strike from anywhere on the field with Davidson, Peake, Leggett, Williams, Hopper, and whatever other speed demons we have.

We'll find out about our D in week 1. If they're what I expect them to be, it's going to be a different vibe this year, and I love me some badass defense.
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Posted: 7/15/2014 9:51 PM

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Oh yeah, we also have some kid named Watson and a couple of WRs we haven't even seen yet.
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Posted: 7/15/2014 10:28 PM

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I miss CLEMSON D!
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Posted: 7/15/2014 10:34 PM

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I agree with the D we see in Athens, will tell us a lot. We'll be good on offense, but like Jr said... Improvements as the season goes, and Watson showing flashes will be huge going forward.

I don't believe for one second Howard is our #1 rb, but if he is..... Yikes.




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Posted: 7/15/2014 10:47 PM

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Not sure where the Howard being a "lock" came from.  But if it was said, it's probably just a motivational tactic and it's never a bad thing to have your most senior guy start out as the "man to beat".

And unlike the TB years, loyalty has its limits.  The best will take the most snaps.
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Posted: 7/15/2014 11:12 PM

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Read Roy's WWAH and it might change your mind.


don't think he can as a non-scrip ...
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Posted: 7/15/2014 11:40 PM

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fhellandjr wrote: Not sure where the Howard being a "lock" came from.  But if it was said, it's probably just a motivational tactic and it's never a bad thing to have your most senior guy start out as the "man to beat".

And unlike the TB years, loyalty has its limits.  The best will take the most snaps.


As it should be.

As far as Howard, he's been named #1 on the depth chart going in. I love the kid. He's as nice a young man to talk to as you'd ever want to be around. But there are better RBs on the roster, and I bet he knows that, too.
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Posted: 7/16/2014 8:47 AM

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I don't see us or anyone beating FSU this year.

I do think we can beat UGA.

But the main thing is, beat South Carolina.
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Posted: 7/16/2014 10:00 AM

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Why is this thread in the Tavern?
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Posted: 7/16/2014 10:06 AM

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if dj is our starter, that means he has earned the nod over more heralded rb's..he won't be "given the job" simply because he's a senior..we may lose 2 or 3 games this year, but it won't be because dj howard started at rb..i don't understand the presumption that the coaches would start anybody that didn't give us the best of winning.
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Posted: 7/16/2014 10:10 AM

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To avoid some of the usual suspects in the Valley.
BobLee1865 wrote: Why is this thread in the Tavern?
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Posted: 7/16/2014 10:13 AM

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BobLee1865 wrote: Why is this thread in the Tavern?
You've stumbled onto something here....

This started a while ago, as a means to have relatively calm football discussions without the the usual degradation that came from when the same thread would be in another forum here.   Always under an odd named thread to further "hide" the thread.

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Posted: 7/16/2014 10:35 AM

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yep, yep, yep...............................................
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Posted: 7/16/2014 11:15 AM

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The more and more I think about it my optimism for this season dwindles.

Howard has a lock on #1 rb...not good.

OL suspect on the edges.

Replacing just about every offensive skill position.

The D should be lights out, but I see a bunch of 3 and outs putting a ton of pressure on the D.

I'm thinking 8-4 or 9-3. Losses to UGA, FSU, UL (they're gonna be good), and I hate to say it but Scar. That OL is sick nasty with plenty of proven skill players.

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Howard isn't the #1 RB. Spring depth chart means very little.

Both OT will be in the NFL. Gore is a junior, by most accounts...... the light is finally on. Battle might be the best player on offense. My biggest concern is center.

Replacing Sammy and TB could be tough but not worried about RBs. If Peake is healthy, he'll be the fastest guy on the field and Williams is a future star. All the tight ends are back and healthy.

A bunch of three and outs? The offense will probably be better at sustaining longer drives bc of the improved running game. Gallman looks to be the guy.

Lville is going to be average at best. Lost a ton and it's not like they're reloading with 5* players. Their DBs are suspect and their OL will have a couple true freshman in the rotation. We also play them at home, we'll be favored by 12 points.

@FSU is going to be a tough one but defending champs usually **** the bed a couple times.

USuC has plenty of proven skill players? Besides Thompson's game against Clemson in 2012, he hasn't looked very good. Shaw was twice the player and there is no one backing DT up. Davis is solid but losing Ellington early was huge. Their WRs are average at best and their D has taken a major step back. They might be the most undersized D in the SEC. Besides Gerald Dixon Jr's fatass of course. If we don't kick their ass this year, our staff should resign.
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Posted: 7/16/2014 11:21 AM

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Why did you click on a thread about the Dodo bird?


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Why is this thread in the Tavern?

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Posted: 7/16/2014 4:35 PM

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noNAMESleftTIGER wrote: Why did you click on a thread about the Dodo bird?


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Why is this thread in the Tavern?

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Because in the Tavern, threads like this are usually funny.

Although, now that it has been explained, I like the concept.  To be honest, the trolls all over the site kept me off the site for a while.

So with that said...

I wouldn't read too much into DJ Howard being named the starter.  All returns from interviews with coaches indicate that RB is probably the most wide open position on the team.  A few comments indicate that Tyshon Dye would've been the starter last season had he been healthy.

As for the oline - Isiah Battle is being touted as one of the best Tackles to come through Clemson since Swinney has been on staff.  I don't know who said they were worried about Ryan Norton, but he's been nothing but solid.

We aren't replacing as many skill players as everyone believes, either.  Charone Peake & Adam Humphries were both starters at WR.  Sam Cooper and Stanton Seckinger were the starters at TE.  We are replacing Tajh Boyd, Sammy Watkins, and Rod McDowell.
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Posted: 7/16/2014 5:05 PM

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Obviously Bryant was a starter at WR and Norton was abused by FSU like he owed them money.
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