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Maryland and Rutgers in serious discussions with B1G...

Posted: 11/17/2012 7:18 PM

Maryland and Rutgers in serious discussions with B1G... 


according to ESPN:

Here is latest article from ESPN...indicating this may be a real possibility.....expansion rears its ugly head again.....

The University of Maryland is in serious negotiations to join the Big Ten Conference, sources told ESPN.com on Saturday.

If Maryland goes to the Big Ten, Rutgers of the Big East is expected to follow suit. The addition of Maryland and Rutgers would give the Big Ten 14 members as the league gears toward negotiations on a new media rights deal when its first-tier rights expire in 2017.

No date has been set for an potential announcement, though it could come as soon as Monday.

espn.go.com/college-football.....nce-sources-say
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Posted: 11/17/2012 7:30 PM

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Better to let Maryland test the waters in court on damages leaving the ACC so FSU will not have to when it leaves for the Big 12.
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Posted: 11/17/2012 7:38 PM

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50 million buyout means that each remaining school will get about 4 million. Where's the downside? A higher SOS and 4 million to spend on facilities. Hey Big 10, do you want to take BC off our hands as well??

And what is the Big 10 thinking? MD? RUTGERS??? If you want MD's hoops and crappy football, why not take Kansas? If you want Rutgers horrible hoops and decent football, why not take Boise? Or they could add somewhere with decent hoops and football like Louisville or K-State.
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Posted: 11/17/2012 7:39 PM

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Yeah, this is addition by subtraction. Similar to Big 12 losing Colorado.
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Posted: 11/17/2012 7:50 PM

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They will get nothing like 50 million. WVU finally settled on paying the big least 7 million and that was leaving a year early. What Swofford says and what courts say is entirely different matter. He might just shut up altogether rather than being sued for fraud after the way he turned over third tier rights for pennies on the dollar.
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Posted: 11/17/2012 8:22 PM

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So would you rate this "done deal" about the same as FSU and Clem to B12?

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--- DocHoliday2 wrote:

They will get nothing like 50 million. WVU finally settled on paying the big least 7 million and that was leaving a year early. What Swofford says and what courts say is entirely different matter. He might just shut up altogether rather than being sued for fraud after the way he turned over third tier rights for pennies on the dollar.

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Posted: 11/17/2012 8:51 PM

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Sports illustrated

www.nationalfootballpost.com/S...ty-serious.html

Time for the trolls to get a new hobby.

"Late Friday night, Pennsylvania radio host Jerry Fisher tweeted that sources told Phil Grosz, the Penn State editor for Rivals.com, that Maryland is set to join the Big Ten in 2014 with an announcement coming next week. Jeff Ermann of Inside Maryland Sports then indicated in a post that the rumors are "more than just rumors."
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Posted: 11/17/2012 9:32 PM

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Maryland BOT meeting monday, the dominos could fall.
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Posted: 11/17/2012 10:55 PM

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Obviously, anything is possible, but somethings do not make sense. If I am not mistaken, the Maryland AD has recently cut sport programs b/c of budget problems, which begs the question, regardless of the buyout, who is going to pay? Why would the Big10 pay $10 million plus for Maryland?

From the ACC perspective, given that MD and FSU voted against the $50 million buyout, the league would have to hold MD to the buyout figure, or something close to it, with keeping FSU in the league in mind. If you are the Big10, do you really think MD is a $50 million program?

If you are the Big10, if you are willing to pay up to $50 million to get a program to join your league, aren't there bigger and better programs to target?

If the Big10 is willing to spend up to $50 million to get MD to bolt the ACC, what does that mean for schools like FSU and CU in relation to other conferences?

If this goes through, IMO the entire landscape of College Football would be in play.
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Posted: 11/18/2012 2:36 AM

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Posted: 11/18/2012 2:58 AM

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What the B1G is looking at is tv markets for the BTN. By adding these two, they get access to the markets of Baltimore, D.C. & NY. From reports, sounds like the ACC will go after UCONN to replace Maryland.

I wonder if the B1G will go after Syracuse next & totally seal off the NY market & most of the NE?

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50 million buyout means that each remaining school will get about 4 million. Where's the downside? A higher SOS and 4 million to spend on facilities. Hey Big 10, do you want to take BC off our hands as well??

And what is the Big 10 thinking? MD? RUTGERS??? If you want MD's hoops and crappy football, why not take Kansas? If you want Rutgers horrible hoops and decent football, why not take Boise? Or they could add somewhere with decent hoops and football like Louisville or K-State.

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Posted: 11/18/2012 3:30 AM

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The ACC is a private organization that has a set of by-laws that are voted on by the members. This exit fee was passed with a 10-2 vote by the members. Also Syracuse, Pitt, and Notre Dame have all agreed to it as a condition of joining.

It will hold up in court just fine.


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The buyout means nothing.

www.washingtonpost.com/sports/...ry.html?hpid=z3

mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=16&...&t=10490765

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Posted: 11/18/2012 8:07 AM

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It's about tv markets, not the product on the field.  How many households will they add to the B10 Network?  Lots of televisions in jersey and maryland/dc.

Hoping we go after Louisville instead of Uconn.


PsychoTea wrote: 50 million buyout means that each remaining school will get about 4 million. Where's the downside? A higher SOS and 4 million to spend on facilities. Hey Big 10, do you want to take BC off our hands as well??

And what is the Big 10 thinking? MD? RUTGERS??? If you want MD's hoops and crappy football, why not take Kansas? If you want Rutgers horrible hoops and decent football, why not take Boise? Or they could add somewhere with decent hoops and football like Louisville or K-State.
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Posted: 11/18/2012 8:51 AM

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This is just to get the ACC to add Rutgers.

ESPN was pushing the whole ND and Rutgers to ACC last year--just before they began to write articles about ND to Big12.

ACC will add Rutgers.

And, worse case scenario is ACC loses Maryland and adds UConn. What's the difference? We're even better in basketball and no drop off in football? UConn brings n more money annually than Maryland anyways.

I just can't see how Maryland makes any sense for the B1G.

Why not go after Kansas and/or Kansas State?
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Posted: 11/18/2012 10:01 AM

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You will see a mushroom cloud over Virginia beach if uconn is added to this conference.
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Posted: 11/18/2012 10:25 AM

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You will see a mushroom cloud over Virginia beach if uconn is added to this conference.

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What do you mean?

BTW, how is the B1G adding Rutgers and Maryland a show of strength rather than of panic? Not like they're adding another PennState/Nebraska here.
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Posted: 11/18/2012 10:32 AM

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You forgot the largest market and that is New York. Rutgers represents the NY Metro area which is massive. This is why the Big 10 wants Rutgers.

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It's about tv markets, not the product on the field.  How many households will they add to the B10 Network?  Lots of televisions in jersey and maryland/dc.

Hoping we go after Louisville instead of Uconn.


<blockquote dir="ltr" ><strong>PsychoTea wrote:</strong> 50 million buyout means that each remaining school will get about 4 million. Where's the downside? A higher SOS and 4 million to spend on facilities. Hey Big 10, do you want to take BC off our hands as well??

And what is the Big 10 thinking? MD? RUTGERS??? If you want MD's hoops and crappy football, why not take Kansas? If you want Rutgers horrible hoops and decent football, why not take Boise? Or they could add somewhere with decent hoops and football like Louisville or K-State.</blockquote>

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Posted: 11/18/2012 10:38 AM

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Is it? Really? If that's true, I didn't know that. I've always thought people in New York don't really care much about college football. They either watch Giants, Jets, Yankees or Mets.

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You forgot the largest market and that is New York. Rutgers represents the NY Metro area which is massive. This is why the Big 10 wants Rutgers.

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--- clemsson wrote:

It's about tv markets, not the product on the field.  How many households will they add to the B10 Network?  Lots of televisions in jersey and maryland/dc.

Hoping we go after Louisville instead of Uconn.


<blockquote dir="ltr" ><strong>PsychoTea wrote:</strong> 50 million buyout means that each remaining school will get about 4 million. Where's the downside? A higher SOS and 4 million to spend on facilities. Hey Big 10, do you want to take BC off our hands as well??

And what is the Big 10 thinking? MD? RUTGERS??? If you want MD's hoops and crappy football, why not take Kansas? If you want Rutgers horrible hoops and decent football, why not take Boise? Or they could add somewhere with decent hoops and football like Louisville or K-State.</blockquote>

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Posted: 11/18/2012 10:46 AM

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It is true for the most part that college football is secondary to professional football in this area, but what it does do is get the Big Ten network on all the cable providers in the area thus increasing their reach to 22 million more people and that is attractive to advertisers.
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Is it? Really? If that's true, I didn't know that. I've always thought people in New York don't really care much about college football. They either watch Giants, Jets, Yankees or Mets.

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--- Clemsonyankee wrote:

You forgot the largest market and that is New York. Rutgers represents the NY Metro area which is massive. This is why the Big 10 wants Rutgers.

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--- clemsson wrote:

It's about tv markets, not the product on the field.  How many households will they add to the B10 Network?  Lots of televisions in jersey and maryland/dc.

Hoping we go after Louisville instead of Uconn.


<blockquote dir="ltr" ><strong>PsychoTea wrote:</strong> 50 million buyout means that each remaining school will get about 4 million. Where's the downside? A higher SOS and 4 million to spend on facilities. Hey Big 10, do you want to take BC off our hands as well??

And what is the Big 10 thinking? MD? RUTGERS??? If you want MD's hoops and crappy football, why not take Kansas? If you want Rutgers horrible hoops and decent football, why not take Boise? Or they could add somewhere with decent hoops and football like Louisville or K-State.</blockquote>

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Posted: 11/18/2012 12:09 PM

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I will be seriously pissed...and I'm thinking fsu and Clemson football fans will be too. Football is what pays the bills and swofford is too GD dumb to realize it.

This year is a PERFECT example. Clemson is 10-1 and has been jumped after a win once before and will be jumped by stanford with the new polls because the acc SUCKS outside of two teams. Bring in uconn and the football sos will still suck because the uncs, wakes, gts, and umds of the acc won't make a serious improvement of the football product.

Unc is too GD dumb and should get hammered since even MORE cheating has been exposed. Wake could have success, but I don't think the ad wants the trouble that comes with football success. Gt has cpj...enough said. No one wants to play in that bs system. Umd is a train wreck with edsall and are too poor to do anything about it. Miami is about to have their dick slammed in the door and has been worthless since joining the acc. Ncst is way too inconsistent and there's no way they should not have success.

Bottom line is...fsu, vt and Clemson are the only schools that give a **** about football and vts down this year (and I see them struggling next year too). Swofford has kicked enough dirt on fsu and Clemson that, for me, enough is enough. Is ucon gets the invite, it's just more dirt being kicked.

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You will see a mushroom cloud over Virginia beach if uconn is added to this conference.

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What do you mean?

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