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NMSU' AD's Future Uncertain

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Posted: 6/29/2014 11:56 AM

NMSU' AD's Future Uncertain 


"LAS CRUCES >> McKinley Boston's future as athletics director at New Mexico State University has returned to where it was at this time last year — murky, undefined and in limbo.


During an interview early this week at his office in Hadley Hall, NMSU President Garrey Carruthers said a final evaluation for Boston would be made in late August or early September. Boston has fallen short of achieving some of the new goals established for the Athletics Department last year, but Carruthers said that was only part of what would be a more expansive evaluation."


"He would add of NMSU's current conference position, "Obviously, not the best of scenarios. ... I think we're OK, but for the long term, I'm not so sure that unless the WAC grows its membership, then we're still in what I would call a somewhat unstable situation.""

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One of the things that Boston did after his first year was raise ticket prices drastically and re-arrange the seating charts for Football and basketball. That drove people away and made students mad. In an attempt to drive people to expensive seats in basketball he covered the cheap seats with tarp like garbage bags and said they were unavailable. Fan interest was on the rise before his arrival, it has declined under his leadership. The community just doesn't like him

Yes there have been many presidents since he has been at NMSU. But after the president who hired him left, he seemed to become the kid at the back of the classroom, flying under the radar trying not to get noticed and doing as little as possible.

The previous president took away the handling of conference realignment from him. Many have thought she was being a control freak, now many are wondering if she had no faith in his capabilities.

He was put on a one year extension last year. As long as he is under the microscope like he was this past year and on a year to year contract he is not going to do anything for our school.

Our new president has brought in a lot of donations to our university in his first year. $1.875 Million was for athletics that he went out and got. Not our AD. He has never brought in anything money related. With the way things work he will probably get another years extension and then retire next summer with a a great retirement package.
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Posted: 6/29/2014 2:02 PM

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CrimsonPhantom wrote:

"LAS CRUCES >> McKinley Boston's future as athletics director at New Mexico State University has returned to where it was at this time last year — murky, undefined and in limbo.


During an interview early this week at his office in Hadley Hall, NMSU President Garrey Carruthers said a final evaluation for Boston would be made in late August or early September. Boston has fallen short of achieving some of the new goals established for the Athletics Department last year, but Carruthers said that was only part of what would be a more expansive evaluation."


"He would add of NMSU's current conference position, "Obviously, not the best of scenarios. ... I think we're OK, but for the long term, I'm not so sure that unless the WAC grows its membership, then we're still in what I would call a somewhat unstable situation.""

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One of the things that Boston did after his first year was raise ticket prices drastically and re-arrange the seating charts for Football and basketball. That drove people away and made students mad. In an attempt to drive people to expensive seats in basketball he covered the cheap seats with tarp like garbage bags and said they were unavailable. Fan interest was on the rise before his arrival, it has declined under his leadership. The community just doesn't like him

 
I think many boosters can deal with ticket price increases, but when you start rearranging the seating charts is when many longtime fans get up in arms almost to the point of complete rebellion, it becomes personal. banghead
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Posted: 6/29/2014 2:24 PM

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I think he has done a fine job and deserves a raise. biggrin
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Posted: 6/29/2014 3:04 PM

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FlexibleFlyer wrote: I think he has done a fine job and deserves a raise. biggrin

Hawaii fans feel the same way about Ben Jay, I bet.
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Posted: 6/29/2014 5:58 PM

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jdgaucho wrote:
FlexibleFlyer wrote: I think he has done a fine job and deserves a raise. biggrin

Hawaii fans feel the same way about Ben Jay, I bet.
They love their AD so much they told him to put in for the open Penn State job . biggrin
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Posted: 6/29/2014 10:54 PM

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Somebody has to take the fall for NMSU still being in the WAC, and it looks like it may be Boston.

Administratively he has been fine. But creatively he has been less than brilliant. If the President (and the prior) are the ones doing the pitching for conference realignment (I know that was the case for the MWC presentation) then that is damning.

Yeah, now that I think about it, he has to go. Good luck in finding a good AD who will work with the President on realignment.
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Posted: 6/30/2014 9:02 AM

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If there needs to be a change it has to be before the start of the academic school year.  Can't see the logic in waiting til August to release an evaluation report.  Something needs to be done if you (G Carruthers and staff) feel that the athletic department needs to go in a different direction.
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Posted: 6/30/2014 10:29 AM

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I don’t know much of the details about Boston, but if some other conference wanted NMSU they would have been invited already. Seems like he would just be a fall guy for their current situation, although I agree that the lack of fund raising is completely on him.

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Posted: 6/30/2014 1:16 PM

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Boston's main failure has been the inability to orchestrate a turnaround in NMSU football (not the first to fail at that endeavor).    He is also not a particularly outgoing type person which I think hurts his ability to fund raise and win influential friends.

Overall I think he has done a reasonable job - APR is up, student athlete involvment in the community is very high, MBB is doing well as are several other sports.  Facilities have been greatly improved.    Certainly the conference realignment situation is not his doing.

Even with that it's probably time for him to move on (retire).   The Department needs a new energy and image and he will not be able to provide either one of those.   My guess is he gets an extension until next June, when he will retire with full honors and a new AD will be hired.
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Posted: 7/1/2014 10:24 AM

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newmexag wrote: Boston's main failure has been the inability to orchestrate a turnaround in NMSU football (not the first to fail at that endeavor).    He is also not a particularly outgoing type person which I think hurts his ability to fund raise and win influential friends.

Overall I think he has done a reasonable job - APR is up, student athlete involvment in the community is very high, MBB is doing well as are several other sports.  Facilities have been greatly improved.    Certainly the conference realignment situation is not his doing.

Even with that it's probably time for him to move on (retire).   The Department needs a new energy and image and he will not be able to provide either one of those.   My guess is he gets an extension until next June, when he will retire with full honors and a new AD will be hired.
If Boston does leave soon, any qualified in house replacements (Macy?) or does NMSU need to clean house and start over? noidea

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Posted: 7/1/2014 11:35 AM

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nwp0224 wrote:
newmexag wrote: Boston's main failure has been the inability to orchestrate a turnaround in NMSU football (not the first to fail at that endeavor).    He is also not a particularly outgoing type person which I think hurts his ability to fund raise and win influential friends.

Overall I think he has done a reasonable job - APR is up, student athlete involvment in the community is very high, MBB is doing well as are several other sports.  Facilities have been greatly improved.    Certainly the conference realignment situation is not his doing.

Even with that it's probably time for him to move on (retire).   The Department needs a new energy and image and he will not be able to provide either one of those.   My guess is he gets an extension until next June, when he will retire with full honors and a new AD will be hired.
If Boston does leave soon, any qualified in house replacements (Macy?) or does NMSU need to clean house and start over? noidea
To answer your question, no, there are no qualified in house replacements.  Macy is part of the problem, not the solution.
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Posted: 7/1/2014 1:24 PM

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Macy is a big time smuck. When he was at the WAC he loved making comments on the different WAC scout boards but was run off of everyone of them.

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Posted: 7/1/2014 2:00 PM

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FlexibleFlyer wrote: Macy is a big time smuck. When he was at the WAC he loved making comments on the different WAC scout boards but was run off of everyone of them.
I wish they would do the same to you.  Your obsession with NMSU is clinical.eek1eek1eek1


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Posted: 7/1/2014 3:50 PM

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Poor flexy.  "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."

dancingaggie wrote:
FlexibleFlyer wrote: Macy is a big time smuck. When he was at the WAC he loved making comments on the different WAC scout boards but was run off of everyone of them.
I wish they would do the same to you.  Your obsession with NMSU is clinical.eek1eek1eek1
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Posted: 7/2/2014 10:20 AM

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rojo13 wrote: Poor flexy.  "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."

dancingaggie wrote:
FlexibleFlyer wrote: Macy is a big time smuck. When he was at the WAC he loved making comments on the different WAC scout boards but was run off of everyone of them.
I wish they would do the same to you.  Your obsession with NMSU is clinical.eek1eek1eek1
Repeat, all you do is repeat yourself. Seriously though Macy was very unpopular with the fans in the old WAC.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 10:40 AM

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FlexibleFlyer wrote:
rojo13 wrote: Poor flexy.  "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."

dancingaggie wrote:
FlexibleFlyer wrote: Macy is a big time smuck. When he was at the WAC he loved making comments on the different WAC scout boards but was run off of everyone of them.
I wish they would do the same to you.  Your obsession with NMSU is clinical.eek1eek1eek1
Repeat, all you do is repeat yourself. Seriously though Macy was very unpopular with the fans in the old WAC.
You of all people talking about repetition?  Seriously though, nobody cares.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 1:10 PM

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CrimsonPhantom wrote:

"LAS CRUCES >> McKinley Boston's future as athletics director at New Mexico State University has returned to where it was at this time last year — murky, undefined and in limbo.


During an interview early this week at his office in Hadley Hall, NMSU President Garrey Carruthers said a final evaluation for Boston would be made in late August or early September. Boston has fallen short of achieving some of the new goals established for the Athletics Department last year, but Carruthers said that was only part of what would be a more expansive evaluation."


"He would add of NMSU's current conference position, "Obviously, not the best of scenarios. ... I think we're OK, but for the long term, I'm not so sure that unless the WAC grows its membership, then we're still in what I would call a somewhat unstable situation.""

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One of the things that Boston did after his first year was raise ticket prices drastically and re-arrange the seating charts for Football and basketball. That drove people away and made students mad. In an attempt to drive people to expensive seats in basketball he covered the cheap seats with tarp like garbage bags and said they were unavailable. Fan interest was on the rise before his arrival, it has declined under his leadership. The community just doesn't like him

Yes there have been many presidents since he has been at NMSU. But after the president who hired him left, he seemed to become the kid at the back of the classroom, flying under the radar trying not to get noticed and doing as little as possible.

The previous president took away the handling of conference realignment from him. Many have thought she was being a control freak, now many are wondering if she had no faith in his capabilities.

He was put on a one year extension last year. As long as he is under the microscope like he was this past year and on a year to year contract he is not going to do anything for our school.

Our new president has brought in a lot of donations to our university in his first year. $1.875 Million was for athletics that he went out and got. Not our AD. He has never brought in anything money related. With the way things work he will probably get another years extension and then retire next summer with a a great retirement package.
Ten years ago Boston was hailed as the 'Mike Price' of athletic directors.  Just like Mike Price, McKinley Boston also fizzled into the night with results dwindling.  Now, fast forward ten years, it is legitimate to say that Boston and the in-house staff must be let go (effective immediately or August 1).
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Posted: 7/2/2014 4:52 PM

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Not as unpopular as you are with fans of both the old and new WAC.  Get a life, set yourself free and quit your insane obsession with NMSU.

FlexibleFlyer wrote:
rojo13 wrote: Poor flexy.  "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."

dancingaggie wrote:
FlexibleFlyer wrote: Macy is a big time smuck. When he was at the WAC he loved making comments on the different WAC scout boards but was run off of everyone of them.
I wish they would do the same to you.  Your obsession with NMSU is clinical.eek1eek1eek1
Repeat, all you do is repeat yourself. Seriously though Macy was very unpopular with the fans in the old WAC.
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