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USC's 2014 recruiting class in shambles ......

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Posted: 7/11/2014 9:09 AM

USC's 2014 recruiting class in shambles ...... 


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Basically 8 of the 21 signees have yet to enroll.  3 of those 8 are for sure not going to be able to make it in due to academics, and the remaining 5 are still trying to meet the qualifying standards for entry in August. 

Ouch.


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Posted: 7/11/2014 9:30 AM

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Everybody tends to lose one or two.  40% of the class is tough.  They should at least try to do as well as Georgia, and not lose them until they get on campus and do something stupid.  devil  wink
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Posted: 7/11/2014 2:53 PM

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"Cornerbacks Wesley Green, Chris Lammons and Darin Smalls, fullback Joe Blue and defensive tackle Dexter Wideman still are trying to meet qualifying standards in time to join the Gamecocks in August."

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Posted: 7/11/2014 3:06 PM

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I can't imagine what one must be like to not academically qualify to play football for South Carolina, or basically any other southern football school.

A bag of rocks on top of muscle I guess.
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Posted: 7/11/2014 3:10 PM

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I just can't imagine why a school would SIGN that many apparent grade risks in one class.  

Sounds like the coaching staff is as dumb as those kids.

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Posted: 7/11/2014 3:25 PM

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maybe they can get a job pumping gas.  pirate
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Posted: 7/11/2014 4:05 PM

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hawg66 wrote: maybe they can get a job pumping gas.  pirate
Where is that still a job? Nowhere I know of has full-service anymore.
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Posted: 7/11/2014 4:43 PM

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New Jersey and Oregon.

Your sports team will soon suffer swift defeat
That theory’s back by empirical evidence
We’re gonna grind up your guys into burger meat
Again, of course, we’re speaking in the figurative sense
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Posted: 7/11/2014 5:56 PM

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Shiner1 wrote: I just can't imagine why a school would SIGN that many apparent grade risks in one class.  

Sounds like the coaching staff is as dumb as those kids.
This from an SC fan on another board:

"I have addressed this in the AJ Turner thread but I will again here.

We were only taking 16 total guys last year. We were told that the entire time. However, once we decided to take 21, we knew 4 to 5 wouldn't qualify. Green and Lammons were not two that we didn't expect to make it. The NCAA Clearinghouse flagged their test scores and said they made too high the second time. They both took the test again today with an NCAA proctor. 

Jhaustin Thomas-we knew it was a LONG shot but took a chance anyway.
Dexter Wideman-toss up and should know pretty soon
Darin Smalls-Should be in by fall
Joe Blue-should be in by fall
Green/Lammons-should receive their test scores back in roughly a couple of weeks
Dante Sawyer-apparently our staff knew the entire time he wasn't going to make it and that is why he just got his GED and went earlier.
Kalan Ritchie-kind of a shock. may not end up at Carolina in the long run."
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Posted: 7/12/2014 7:59 AM

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Again.... why are they signing 4-5 guys they know won't qualify?

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Posted: 7/12/2014 9:27 AM

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Shiner1 wrote: Again.... why are they signing 4-5 guys they know won't qualify?
Why ask why?
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Posted: 7/12/2014 9:39 AM

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847badgerfan wrote:
Shiner1 wrote: Again.... why are they signing 4-5 guys they know won't qualify?
Why ask why?
The thinking here is that they MIGHT qualify, and if they don't, the go JUCO and then resign later.

With admissions standards for athletes so low, it is distressing that so many don't qualify, to say the least.  Think of it, you are highly talented at football and can't get a very minimal score on the SAT and maintain a 2,.0 taking easy courses.  You have no chance of graduating college unless somehow the light comes on, even majoring in consumer economics.  You play JUCO and then get one year at USC and hope you make the draft I guess.

I hate all over generalizations.

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Posted: 7/12/2014 9:51 AM

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This is why I would like to see athlete admission standards raised to be the same as the rest of the student body. Of course, some schools would still be able to take lesser-qualified kids, but not nearly as many.

This would force these kids to actually get a real high school education - something that is lacking in this country right now.
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Posted: 7/12/2014 10:13 AM

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cincydawg4 wrote:
847badgerfan wrote:
Shiner1 wrote: Again.... why are they signing 4-5 guys they know won't qualify?
Why ask why?
The thinking here is that they MIGHT qualify, and if they don't, the go JUCO and then resign later.

With admissions standards for athletes so low, it is distressing that so many don't qualify, to say the least.  Think of it, you are highly talented at football and can't get a very minimal score on the SAT and maintain a 2,.0 taking easy courses.  You have no chance of graduating college unless somehow the light comes on, even majoring in consumer economics.  You play JUCO and then get one year at USC and hope you make the draft I guess.
Usually when they go JUCO  they wind up signing with somebody else. They do get two years after JUCO to play.
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Posted: 7/12/2014 12:04 PM

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Getting admitted from a JUCO is never a guarantee.
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Posted: 7/12/2014 10:16 PM

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This is why I would like to see athlete admission standards raised to be the same as the rest of the student body.

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Then substandard colleges would start kicking everybody's butt.
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Posted: 7/12/2014 10:23 PM

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With admissions standards for athletes so low, it is distressing that so many don't qualify, to say the least.

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Exactly. I mean, you would have to work at it to be that stupid. Something less than brain dead I would presume.
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Posted: 7/12/2014 10:43 PM

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Isn't that how a school like North Carolina has an academic scandal? Sign a kid with the grades but maybe didn't really earn them or do the work, goes to an actual academic institution of higher learning.....all the tutors in the world can't make up 4+ years of non-learning.

He fixes the cable?

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Posted: 7/13/2014 7:54 AM

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OrangeAfroMan wrote: Isn't that how a school like North Carolina has an academic scandal? Sign a kid with the grades but maybe didn't really earn them or do the work, goes to an actual academic institution of higher learning.....all the tutors in the world can't make up 4+ years of non-learning.
Their students had to "get in", which was not the scandal.  The scandal was KEEPING them in.

As I said, signing such kids is in the hope they return after JUCO.  No, it is no guarantee, but one presumes they liked the place in the first place.

My kids' HS had a fairly large segment who were from poor households, to put a term on it.  Some of those kids were excellent athletes, but they had no background emphasizing education.  They basically got through barely able to read and not taking it seriously, and quite a few would not qualify for college.

Quite a few did, of course, and many went on athletic ships, which was good, but often it was because some teachers really focused on them and explained it to them.  Some of them likely were functionally "retarded" in the first place and had no chance.  Some of them were smart enough but had bad preparation earlier than high school and it was not "cool" to study at all.

It was an interesting HS.  They had a full IB program and kids going to Stanford and the Ivies every year and then many on the other end of the spectrum.

I hate all over generalizations.

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Posted: 7/13/2014 9:11 AM

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Texas95 wrote:


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This is why I would like to see athlete admission standards raised to be the same as the rest of the student body.

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Then substandard colleges would start kicking everybody's butt.
So be it.
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