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Mack Brown Must Go!!!

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Posted: 10/13/2012 12:28 PM

Mack Brown Must Go!!! 


Mac Brown is the worst excuse for a head coach in the history of Texas football. Everyone knows Vince Young is the only reason he wears a National Championship ring, and the Horns will never see real success as long as he remains the coach. OU is not more talented then Texas. They just prepare their players better. Brown has taken the UT program into Dallas today and they are embarrassing the state of Texas. Brown must go.

Texas makes more money then any other program in America. FIRE MAC BROWN! Pay Saban $10 million a season for 10 years. He'll leave Bama for that kind of money.
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Posted: 10/13/2012 5:18 PM

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talk to Auburn.  they may be looking for someone soon.

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Posted: 10/13/2012 7:22 PM

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I've been a Mack supporter through good times and bad. I never thought that I could possibly not give him the benefit of the doubt with the trajectory of the team.

Today changed all of that. What we loved and still love about you, Mack, is how you bought into and nurtured the Texas Football Culture. You won high praise because you "got it."

But there is one thing that you never have gotten. The most important part of that culture. Beating the F out of OU. I can even take losing a hard fought game to my hated, dirt-burglar fores from north of the Red River, because that's what rivalries are. But as long as we're giving as well as receiving. If someone clocks a Texas player then GD it, someone on the other side better wind up in the hospital (figuratively speaking of course). That isn't happening Coach and it never will under your stewardship.

There was one player that took the field today that deserved to wear the Texas colors today and that was David Ash. Kid played with heart and is likely done for the season because of your unacceptable preparation of the other 84 players who made the trip.

It is time for you to follow Coach Royal into the sunset.

In Memory of LBM.

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Posted: 10/14/2012 1:01 AM

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In the press conference I think I heard him say that "The tackling was better than it was last week". Texas could be in for a long season.
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Posted: 10/14/2012 2:49 AM

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It's tough to know what to do with such a truly great coach like Mack when it's beginning to appear that his best teams may be behind him. Like when do you stop relying on a coach like Bud Wilkinson who took OU to the top, even though it's the 60s and he just can't seem to beat Texas any more?

My thought is Texas does have cause for worry but I'd give him more time. He's been one of the greats, and I mean not just in Texas history but in all time CFB history. He may still have another run ahead.

Congrats to OkieLite and all Pokes fans for OSU kicking OU's butt in Bedlam
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Posted: 10/14/2012 7:11 AM

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The big 12 is getting harder every year though... It is not the OU/Texas show anymore. You have WVU, and TCU... it seems like each week is killer now. Texas has played one hell of a set the last 3 weeks I will give them that; however, it does seem like he has a preperation issue when both teams are about even.
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Posted: 10/14/2012 8:32 AM

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The preparation is systemic that results in failure. Had a losing season and Brown changed the coaches. OK, maybe that was the problem. But guess what happened on the was to the railroad crossing? Nothing. That means the problem is with the head coach. I don't want to see Coach wind up like Bobby Bowden.

The part of the post game that I say had players saying, "ummm, well, we just got to work harder." and the coach saying "I don't know." Well news flash Mack, IT IS CLEAR AS F*%K THAT YOU DON'T KNOW. How about linking a subject and a predicate that actually means something instead of more drivel. "Unacceptable", is NOT and answer. Out of the four players that showed some balls, two were in the hospital emergency room.

From what I have heard is that both Harsin and Diaz want to run the practices much differently but Coach Brown has vetoed any changes. Something is going on here.

The definition of insanity is repeating an action and expecting a different result. We have seen repeated actions resulting, predictably enough, with similar results. My expectation is that nothing will change because nothing is being allowed to change.

The only silver lining in this pile of steaming hot Bevo turd is that Big Game Bob will choke in at least one Big Game this year. That's not making me feel any better, though.

In Memory of LBM.

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Posted: 10/14/2012 11:20 AM

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I figured it wouldn't take long for a thread of this type to appear. Getting trashed in a game was just the catalyst.

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Posted: 10/14/2012 3:46 PM

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Getting trashed REPEATEDLY in this game is the catalyst.

I was born while Saint Darrell was lighting the Tower with the #1.

Vowed to attend UT while FAkers was at the helm.

Walked the 40 Acres under DMcWilliams watch.

Graduated & became a season ticket holder with JMackovic calling the shots.

I was arriving early, wearing burnt orange, screaming loud & staying late long before Mack Brown issued his edict.

Coach Brown is the best HC we've had since DRoyal & better than most of peers across the country. He unified a shattered fanbase, reconnected with the state's HS coaches & returned this program to its rightful place among the nation's elite. I went from hoping for wins, to confident we would, no matter how far behind we were...save for this annual game. I am now back to hoping for wins.

There's the rub. MBrown has done so many positives during his time, he has become a victim of his own success and the expectations that come with them. 

Blowouts happen. Play enough games and eventually there'll be ones that get away from you. Not all blowouts are equal. In 1995 we went to South Bend to play #21 Notre Dame. We were #13, but that was generous. We were building. We led midway in the 3Q 20-19. We ended that quarter 20-27 due to an Irish 3 yd TD run that capped off a 4 play, 75 play "drive" that took 1 minute. We were outscored 7-28 in the 4Q, the final ND TD coming on a pick six with less than a minute to play. We were in that game. We fought. In the end, we ran out of gas.

The same cannot be said for 3-46 v Miami, 3-66 v Ucla (neither MBrown's fault), but it also cannot be said for 14-63, 13-65 & 21-63. 

In 2000, '03 & '12, OU hit us in the face and we whimpered. In '11, we had the excuse we were in QB chaos, young 'uns at every position, new coaches calling the shots and 21 points coming directly from the Sooner D.

MBrown has repeatedly pointed to DRoyal as a mentor. Yet he has no clue how to approach this game. The game Saint Darrell knows we have to win every year. The only times our players have played with a chip on their collective shoulders from warm-ups to THE EYES OF TEXAS was in 2005 & '09. VYoung had us on a collision course with USC & Six Shooter, et al, wanted to prove whom should've rep'd the Big 12 v Mizzou in '08, respectively. Even in our wins, save for those two, our players have not matched the Sooners emotion for the game from beginning to end. (Maybe '07. That game wasn't over until a late JCharles fumble as he was going into the endzone.)

It is the Jimmys & the Joes. It is the Xs & the Os. And, it is the man who leads them that sets the tone.

MBrown needs to step down at the end of this year and receive all the accolades he deserves, He will always be held in high regard for his time to The University of By-God Texas. But his time needs to come to an end.
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Posted: 10/14/2012 5:46 PM

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RoyalStreet wrote:

The only times our players have played with a chip on their collective shoulders from warm-ups to THE EYES OF TEXAS was in 2005 & '09.

I'd add 2008 to that.  I recall how hyped OU was, and perhaps deservedly so, for their hurry up, record-setting-in-the-making offense.  At that point nobody realized UT was as good as they were and nearly everybody, including folks on this board, thought OU was too much for Texas.  But the team stepped up and played with a lot of heart and fight, and maxed their talent that day, I think.  Took down OU by 10, iirc.  That game was really Colt's coming out party for what would be his memorable 2008 and 2009 seasons, and his ridiculous ~80% completion rate.
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Posted: 10/15/2012 2:09 AM

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Is this a relatively young Texas team?

They looked significantly smaller than Oklahoma.
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Posted: 10/15/2012 3:52 AM

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Funny how only 3 weeks ago us Sooners were crying the same tune. I'll pose this, if Mack were to step down or be fired, who would you want to replace him? It's easy to call for a coaches head when you lose a couple of games, but what you get may be worse than you started with.  Look at the Huskers, they fired Solich for going 9-4 and for getting blown out by CU and Miami. Some of what I see with Texas is what has plaqued OU, you whiffed on more than your fair share of recruits. One thing Mack has been very good at is making changes for the better of the program. I'm willing to bet that if Texas drops a few more games, he will change his approach to recruiting and how he runs practice, he's not stubborn in his approach as Bob Stoops.
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Posted: 10/15/2012 7:33 AM

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Maybe I'm in the minority but I say "no" to Saban. I'm not sure what the answer is or who would be a better replacement for MBrown if it comes down to it, but Saban does not feel like the right person for UT. I personally don't trust him even if he brings the results, but then again there's a reason I don't make the tough choices like this. Just my opinion.

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Posted: 10/15/2012 7:54 AM

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I never thought I'd be on this bandwagon, but Debacle in Dallas IV sealed it.  There never should have been even ONE game where Texas quit against OU, but now it's not even uncommon.

Fire everyone and start over.  The program is going the wrong way, Mack has done the only thing he could to correct it by firing the whole staff, and it didn't work.  The problems with Texas' program begin at the top.

I really wish it had turned out otherwise, I like so many things about Mack.  But this is simply unacceptable, and there's only one way to stop it.
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Posted: 10/15/2012 9:22 AM

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If I would have mentioned firing Brown 2 years ago, Texans would have jumped all over me. Fickle folks, indeed!!!pirate

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Posted: 10/15/2012 10:25 AM

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Two years ago Texas had just played in the BCS MNC title game twice in 5 years and lost a game that many people believe the Longhorns would have won had Colt McCoy not been injured.  I'm not going to debate that one way or the other, but the 2008 and 2009 seasons were both very good for Texas.  The 2008 team is in fact my favorite Texas team of the Mack Brown era, they were gritty, tough, and surprisingly well coached.

Like all coaches, Mack Brown has had his deficiencies, but until now his better qualities were usually able to overcome.  At this point, there's just not enough good remaining, to overlook the bad.
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Posted: 10/15/2012 11:04 AM

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Just an outside observer's observations.....

Now that utee has opened the gates and I know I won't be pierced with burnt orange arrows, I would have to say that I was thinking during the game that it's probably time for Mack to go.  Not now, because I don't like coaches leaving mid-season for any reason other than criminal/otherwise inappropriate activity.  But at the end of the season. 

Again, as an outsider......I feel like I'd have been in his corner in 2010, when the team didn't even make a bowl.  Because he'd just ended a 9 year streak of 10+ win seasons (and won 9 games for 3 years before that, picking up a program that sucked under Mack-not-Brown-ovic).  Of course a guy like that gets a mulligan.  But this is the third year in a row that Texas has failed to put the team on the field that it's capable of, if only in mental toughness.  Even though last year was better, the team lost to the better teams on the schedule, and wasn't even competitive in all the losses.  The WVU shootout this year was competitive, for sure, but still unacceptable, imo, and last weekend's game was not competitive in any regard.  This being the 3rd year of such, as a fan I would probably say "Enough." 

Sounds so weird to say, because Mack fits the Texas program so well, it seems to me, in many different ways.  But it seems that it's not all that uncommon for coaches' tenures to decline after their zenith if they stay too long.  Don't know if it's complacency that sets in, or just the game starts passing them by, or what, but we've all seen it before.  I'd say 3 years is enough time to comfortably feel like that time has arrived for Mack.  It's clear there's a problem with the program and Mack doesn't know how to fix it this time.
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Posted: 10/15/2012 11:21 AM

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MikeDeTiger wrote: This being the 3rd year of such, as a fan I would probably say "Enough." 
2nd such year.  The 2010 game was close.  And Texas out lasted us in 2008 and out muscled us in 2009.  Important to give Mack and Texas credit where they deserve it.

As an opposing fan, I just want to say that I really appreciate Mack Brown, on a lot of fronts.  He's revived a struggling Texas program from the 1990s, and has rekindled a terrific RRR rivalry, up against Stoops and co.  I did not like the way he behaved in 2008, which I thought was duplicitous (and I don't want to rehash all that - we have to agree to disagree on some things - but I'm just giving my honest opinion both good and bad), but then again whatever else be said he was at least standing up for his program.  I appreciate the way he treats people in his program, and I know he has a very high expectation to live up to, and importantly, that's some of his own making.  Or said another way:

Mack Brown's success during the decade of the 2000's is a very tough act to follow, even for Mack.

Still, if I were on the other end of two straight 35+ point blowouts in the RRR, I might feel the same way about our HC.  You just can't lose big in two straight games in such a rivalry noidea

Congrats to OkieLite and all Pokes fans for OSU kicking OU's butt in Bedlam
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Posted: 10/15/2012 11:32 AM

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Fred,

I wasn't talking about the RRS.  3rd such year of Texas not putting the team on the field that it should be, and that it's capable of fielding.  2010 was clearly a year that should never have happened at Texas, even though if it had been the ONLY year/sign of problems, I'd not think he should go.
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Posted: 10/15/2012 12:26 PM

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So, it's back to coach February, huh?

Let me ask the next obvious question:  Who do you get to replace him?

Texas would have to throw down some big money to get a sure-fire replacement.  Is Dodds ready to bust open the piggy bank and start making $10M-range offers to the small handful of sure thing elite coaches?  If not is there faith that the athletic department can turn up a replacement who is going to be an improvement?  Also, what happens if the big money offer is made to somebody like Saban and it gets turned down--how much egg is on the face then and is there some ready spin to cover this chance?

It's easy to say "fire the coach", but it is harder to figure out how to improve the program with a new coach.  It might be worth the risk of going with somebody new, but there is a significant risk when the current coach is turning in strong though not great seasons.  But there is risk.

And on the gripping hand, my farcical streak now just wants to stump for "Petrino for Texas!".  pirate
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