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Mack Brown's Replacement

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Posted: 9/11/2013 11:25 AM

Mack Brown's Replacement 


Who's on your list?
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Posted: 9/11/2013 11:27 AM

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Posted: 9/11/2013 11:28 AM

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My list is as follows:

1. Bill Cowher
2. Chris Petersen
3. Charlie Strong
4. Lovie Smith
5. Kevin Sumlin
6. Mike Smith

What do you think?
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Posted: 9/11/2013 11:36 AM

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Shiner1 wrote:

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Posted: 9/11/2013 11:40 AM

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hookyhornstein wrote: My list is as follows:

1. Bill Cowher
2. Chris Petersen
3. Charlie Strong
4. Lovie Smith
5. Kevin Sumlin
6. Mike Smith

What do you think?

Out of that list, I'm thinking Lovie is the best candidate.

He's got the NFL experience (minus the decided schematic advantage), he's got the awe shucks thing, he's from Texas, he's patient and he's got a college background too.
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Posted: 9/11/2013 11:42 AM

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Posted: 9/11/2013 12:28 PM

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since anyone I truly want is most likely unrealistic, I'll just say one: Tony Dungy

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Posted: 9/11/2013 12:28 PM

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847badgerfan wrote:
Out of that list, I'm thinking Lovie is the best candidate.

He's got the NFL experience (minus the decided schematic advantage), he's got the awe shucks thing, he's from Texas, he's patient and he's got a college background too.
I agree.  The more I think about Lovie, the more I think he possesses all of those "intangibles" that make all the difference at a place like Texas.
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Posted: 9/11/2013 12:29 PM

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If this thing goes any farther south, it'll be Major, and with Mack's blessing.  He'll get his one-year stint to either prove he's the goods, or the new AD can make his own selection when he gets here.  Major will gladly accept this proposition.

It's fun to dream, but DeLoss is not making another outside hire.
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Posted: 9/11/2013 12:39 PM

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BrownCounty wrote: If this thing goes any farther south, it'll be Major, and with Mack's blessing.  He'll get his one-year stint to either prove he's the goods, or the new AD can make his own selection when he gets here.  Major will gladly accept this proposition.

It's fun to dream, but DeLoss is not making another outside hire.
I like Major. 

Very much. 

But I can't imagine Texas hiring from within or Mack's blessing having anything to do with it.  Those sound like things DeLoss would do but when the sh-tuff jumps off (and we're closer to that now than we've ever been), the Billionaire Boys Club of Denius, Moncrief, Jamail, McCombs, et al will be calling the shots.

Hell, they might not even let Dodds stick around to see the shots they call.
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Posted: 9/11/2013 12:56 PM

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hookyhornstein wrote:
BrownCounty wrote: If this thing goes any farther south, it'll be Major, and with Mack's blessing.  He'll get his one-year stint to either prove he's the goods, or the new AD can make his own selection when he gets here.  Major will gladly accept this proposition.

It's fun to dream, but DeLoss is not making another outside hire.
I like Major. 

Very much. 

But I can't imagine Texas hiring from within or Mack's blessing having anything to do with it.  Those sound like things DeLoss would do but when the sh-tuff jumps off (and we're closer to that now than we've ever been), the Billionaire Boys Club of Denius, Moncrief, Jamail, McCombs, et al will be calling the shots.

Hell, they might not even let Dodds stick around to see the shots they call.

Mack's blessing is more a gesture to make it look like Mack is leaving with decoration.  Which I won't begrudge him.  He did resurrect this program, let's not forget.

The billionaire boys club is already calling the shots.  These are smart men, they understand the dynamics at play.  My thought is they are after Dodds.

So do they let his contract play out, or do they start turning screws on Powers?  And who would you recommend for AD?  This is a LONG search process, which I can guarantee you is already underway, and has been for quite some time.

What if a satisfactory AD candidate has not been arrived upon yet?  Why oust Dodds then?  And why oust Mack for another HC when a new AD is one year out?

Again I say, if anything, Major gets his shot.  However so brief it may be.

But truthfully, I do believe that if Major were given a one-year stint, he would end up keeping the job.

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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:12 PM

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BrownCounty wrote:
So do they let his contract play out, or do they start turning screws on Powers?  And who would you recommend for AD?  This is a LONG search process, which I can guarantee you is already underway, and has been for quite some time.

What if a satisfactory AD candidate has not been arrived upon yet?  Why oust Dodds then?  And why oust Mack for another HC when a new AD is one year out?

Again I say, if anything, Major gets his shot.  However so brief it may be.

But truthfully, I do believe that if Major were given a one-year stint, he would end up keeping the job.
To be honest, I've never bothered to learn who's who among ADs, but off the cuff I just gotta ask: Who's Louisville's AD?

I like Major.  I really do.  Just can't imagine Texas not shaking the bushes and the trees for a yowza hire.
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:20 PM

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tom jurich. be a great hire too. he's from out west i think.

everything he's touched there has been gold.

pitino, john l smith, petrino, strong....well i guess the guy in betw petrino & strong was a turd but still.

they've grown a lot in that time as well.



                                                     

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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:34 PM

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BC.... you're right.... your rich guys are smart men, and they do understand the dynamics at play.

The problem is... the big donors are generally very poor at identifying a good coach, or a good coach that's a good fit.  That seems to be true and most schools.

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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:41 PM

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Shiner1 wrote: BC.... you're right.... your rich guys are smart men, and they do understand the dynamics at play.

The problem is... the big donors are generally very poor at identifying a good coach, or a good coach that's a good fit.  That seems to be true and most schools.
But they are good at outsourcing to high dollar headhunting firms.
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:52 PM

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hookyhornstein wrote:

To be honest, I've never bothered to learn who's who among ADs, but off the cuff I just gotta ask: Who's Louisville's AD?

Tom Jurich, and many articles and publications have been written praising him.  I would be surprised if he has not been considered.

I would suggest that Texas is more of a "management" job, than it is a "building" job, if that makes any sense.  And I would pay close attention to an individual's PR skills, and likeability.

IOW, I wouldn't hire Donald Trump for the Texas job, even though he knows how to make money.

Might I add, at Texas, some degree of being a "yes man" is necessary at the AD position.  This is not some upstart little school with a thousand graduates in the IT industry, and a thousand others in social services.

I like Major.  I really do.  Just can't imagine Texas not shaking the bushes and the trees for a yowza hire.

I agree, but a one-year stint for Major could buy us some time while we shake bushes.  I think there is just so much going down in Texas athletics right now that the quick fix may not be the real fix.

But if we have a 7-5 season or worse, there will be mutiny (and empty seats) if there is no gesture of response.

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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:59 PM

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Shiner1 wrote:

The problem is... the big donors are generally very poor at identifying a good coach, or a good coach that's a good fit.

Excuse me?  I'm proud we hired Mack.  Yes, his time has come, but it was a good choice back then.  Especially for what we needed, which was recruiting and morale building.

You realize Dodds didn't want Mack, and the money had to steer him away from Gary Barnett?  With DKR as henchman, Mack was reeled in.  Btw, where's Gary Barnett today?
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Posted: 9/11/2013 2:02 PM

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hookyhornstein wrote:
Shiner1 wrote: BC.... you're right.... your rich guys are smart men, and they do understand the dynamics at play.

The problem is... the big donors are generally very poor at identifying a good coach, or a good coach that's a good fit.  That seems to be true and most schools.
But they are good at outsourcing to high dollar headhunting firms.
Headhunting firms find candidates... your big donors make the final call.

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Posted: 9/11/2013 2:57 PM

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To be fair, everyone was on board with Gary Barnett.  If he hadn't been such a tewl during the interview, it was a slam dunk.


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Posted: 9/11/2013 3:02 PM

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MrTulip wrote: To be fair, everyone was on board with Gary Barnett.  If he hadn't been such a tewl during the interview, it was a slam dunk.

I didn't like Barnett.  To me, he was another Mackovic.  Their resumes as HCs looked almost the same.  Conference championships, yes.  But win-loss records that were scarcely above .500.
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