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B1G Power Rankings - Preseason

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Posted: 8/18/2014 9:07 PM

B1G Power Rankings - Preseason 


Well, it is nearly time for the season so lets get this started.  

Rules:
  • You must rank all 14 teams.  Rankings are not comparable if some people rank only the original members and some rank all the eligible members and some rank all.  Thus, when I calculate the average I only use rankings that include all teams.  
  • If you must enter a tie, I will enter it as the sum of the slots divided by the number of the teams.  IE, if you rank two teams as tied for #1 I will add together the slots then divide by the number of teams ((1+2)/2=1.5) so it will be treated as ranking both teams #1.5.  
  • During the season, please let me start this thread each week.  I do that because I post the results and people seem to like to be able to see those at the beginning of the thread.  I'll start the thread each week with a placeholder post then edit that post to show the results.  
  • Please try to vote by Monday at 5 EST.  I can post updates after that, but it is a pain to update everything for only one new voter.  
Suggestions and thoughts:
  • If possible, please number your rankings.  It makes it easier to enter votes into the spreadsheet if everyone numbers theirs.  
  • IMHO, this is a ranking of which team you think would win on a neutral field if they played tomorrow.  There is some debate about this.  There is a question as to whether this should be a cumulative performance measurement or a ranking of which team you think is strongest right now.  For example, if Braxton Miller is out for the first eight games and the Buckeyes lose a couple games without him but then he comes back and the Buckeyes look like the best team in the conference in beating MSU (game #9) then there is some dispute as to whether they should be ranked #1 (what they look like right now) or some lower number (their season-to-date cumulative performance).  Personally, I am firmly in the "what they look like right now" camp.  
Votes through mcwterps1 (30 voters):
Team/Poster AVG Rank StdDev BestWorstRange
MSU          1.231          0.63143
UW          3.152          1.06264
tOSU          3.373          1.71187
Iowa          4.354          1.58176
UNL          4.885          1.27275
M          5.086          2.24198
PSU          7.607          1.813118
MN          8.508          1.745127
MD          8.779          2.053129
NU          9.6310          1.457136
IU          9.8711          1.317125
ILL        12.1712          1.299145
RU        12.7013          0.7911143
PU        13.7014          0.5312142
Drop the high and low:
Team/Poster AVG Rank StdDev BestWorstRange
MSU          1.141          0.36121
UW          3.092          0.92253
tOSU          3.293          1.46275
Iowa          4.384          1.42275
UNL          4.915          1.12374
M          5.096          2.05198
PSU          7.647          1.525116
MN          8.508          1.536115
MD          8.869          1.695116
NU          9.6110          1.268113
IU          9.8911          1.178124
ILL        12.2112          1.139145
RU        12.7113          0.7111143
PU        13.7514          0.4413141


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1MSUn/amiss11/8, Amiss10/4, A10/25, A11/29, Hmiss11/15, Hmiss10/18, Hmiss11/22, A10/11, HMSU1
2UWmissn/amiss11/22, H11/15, Amissmiss11/29, A10/25, A10/4, Hmiss10/11, A11/1, H11/8, HUW2
3tOSU11/8, Hmissn/amissmiss11/29, A10/25, H11/15, H10/4, Hmiss11/22, A11/1, A10/18, AmisstOSU3
4Iowamiss11/22, Amissn/a11/28, Amissmiss11/8, H10/18, H11/1, A10/11, A11/15, Hmiss9/27, HIowa4
5UNL10/4, H11/15, Hmiss11/28, Hn/amissmiss11/22, Amiss10/18, Amiss9/27, A10/25, A11/1, AUNL5
6M10/25, Hmiss11/29, Hmissmissn/a10/11, A9/27, A11/22, A11/8, H11/1, Amiss10/4, HmissM6
7PSU11/29, Amiss10/25, Amissmiss10/11, Hn/amiss11/1, A9/27, A11/8, H11/22, H9/13, HmissPSU7
8MNmiss11/29, H11/15, A11/8, A11/22, H9/27, Hmissn/amiss10/11, Amiss10/25, Hmiss10/18, AMN8
9MD11/15, A10/25, H10/4, A10/18, Amiss11/22, H11/1, Hmissn/amiss9/27, Hmiss11/29, AmissMD9
10NUmiss10/4, Amiss11/1, H10/18, A11/8, A9/27, H10/11, Hmissn/amiss11/29, Amiss11/22, HNU10
11IU10/18, Amiss11/22, H10/11, Hmiss11/1, H11/8, Amiss9/27, Amissn/amiss11/15, H11/29, AIU11
12ILLmiss10/11, H11/1, H11/15, A9/27, Hmiss11/22, A10/25, Amiss11/29, Hmissn/amiss10/4, AILL12
13RU11/22, H11/1, A10/18, Hmiss10/25, H10/4, A9/13, Amiss11/29, Hmiss11/15, Amissn/amissRU13
14PU10/11, A11/8, Amiss9/27, A11/1, Hmissmiss10/18, Hmiss11/22, A11/29, H10/4, Hmissn/aPU14
.TeamMSUUWtOSUIowaUNLMPSUMNMDNUIUILLRUPUTeam.
Rank.1234567891011121314.Rank
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Posted: 8/18/2014 9:13 PM

Re: B1G Power Rankings - Preseason 


1. MSU
2. OSU

4.5: Iowa
4.5: Michigan
4.5: Nebraska
4.5: Wisconsin

7. Penn State
8. Indiana
9. Maryland
10. Minnesota

11. Northwestern
12. Illinois

13. Rutgers
14. Purdue
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Posted: 8/18/2014 9:38 PM

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1. Michigan State
2. Ohio State
3. Nebraska
4. Wisconsin
5. Iowa
6. Maryland
7. Minnesota
8. Michigan
9. Indiana
10. Penn State
11. Northwestern
12. Rutgers
13. Illinois
14. Purdue
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Posted: 8/18/2014 10:05 PM

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1.)Michigan State - Now that Braxton Miller has been injured - the Spartans are the clear choice.
2.) Wisconsin - who knows what could happen if the Badgers beat LSU?
3.) Ohio State - new QB siyuation is probably bad, unless replacement is a natural.
4.) Michigan - They recruit well, time to show it on the field.
5.) Iowa - usually physical.
6.) Nebraska - Let's see if Bo has a good year, or another circus in Huskerland.
7.) Penn State - Visiting State College after humiliating them last season has me worried.
8.) Northwestern  - Well coached, need to stay healthy due to lack of depth.
9.) Maryland - Hearing good things, my gut tells me they will be soft (and have the ugliest uniforms).
10.) Indiana - they need to beat Missouri to earn my respect, but they probably won't.
11.) Minnesota - not expected to be as good as last season.
12.) Illinois - Very bad last year.
13.) Rutgers - I hear they are pretty bad this season.
14.) Purdue - Probably better than last year - how could they be worse?

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Posted: 8/18/2014 10:31 PM

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1. Michigan State - I'm not sold on them with some of the players they've lost, but they're the best by default right now
2. Iowa - I'm probably too high on them, but their schedule sets up really well
3. Michigan - I'm just hoping the OL gets better over the course of the season, which is by far my biggest concern, because every other position is at least solid
4. Ohio State - I'll just assume Miller is out until further notice
5. Wisconsin - Maybe I'm too pessimistic about Stave, their receivers, and their defense, though - we'll find out in week 1
6. Nebraska - Depends on QB play
7. Penn State - Really not sure what to expect
8. Minnesota - If they get better on defense, then they could surprise
9. Indiana - Their defense is probably still bad, but their offense can keep them in most games
10. Maryland - Don't really know much about the team, but their only good win was VT last year and also lost to Wake Forest
11. Northwestern - Huge losses to their offense, and their defense remains questionable
12. Illinois - Until proven otherwise
13. Rutgers - If their secondary is still that bad, then their front 7 or even an improved offense can't save them
14. Purdue - Until proven otherwise

When your team is winning be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing

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Posted: 8/18/2014 10:36 PM

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1 Michigan
2 Michigan St
3 Ohio St
4 Iowa
5 Wisconsin
6 Maryland
7 Nebraska
8 Minnesota
9 Northwestern
10 Indiana
11 Penn St
12 Illinois
13 Rutgers
14 Purdue


I could still change. I am monitoring Braxton Miller's  injury. Ohio St goes to the top if he plays.
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Posted: 8/19/2014 2:41 AM

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  1. Michigan State - I'm not completely sold on them and I think they'll lose to Oregon, but I don't think anybody else deserves this ranking more.  On top of being, I think, the best team in the East by a mile, they get their two strongest competitors at home so they should win the East even if I am wrong.  
  2. Wisconsin - though I don't think they'll win the West.  
  3. Nebraska - though I don't think they'll win the West either.  
  4. Iowa - though I think they have an easier schedule and will win the West as the third strongest team.  
  5. Ohio State - This assumes Miller is out.  If Miller is set to play I'll move the Buckeyes up to #2.  
  6. Michigan - I'm not sold on Hoke and there isn't much he could do this year to convince me.  They should easily go 9-3 and with ND's issues and Millers possibly lost season that could improve to 11-1 without Michigan actually being all that good.  
  7. Minnesota - I don't think they'll go 0-5 against @M, vIA, @UNL, @UW but they also probably will not go 3-0 against vNU, vPU, and @ILL so it should balance out.  
  8. Indiana - If they only had a D.  
  9. Penn State - I think the depth issues will be problematic this season, but that also means they could be a team that has a lot of surprise results both good and bad.  
  10. Maryland - As low as I have them ranked, I do think that they could surprise some teams especially because it is a new opponent that teams are not accustomed to yet.  
  11. Northwestern - With a lot of close losses last year, ordinarily I would rank them higher on the assumption that they would make up for that this year, but I think they lost too much.  
  12. Illinois - In spite of this, I still think Illinois is a sleeping giant that could be good someday.  
  13. Rutgers - Fertile recruiting ground, but not a great team right now and coach may be on the way out depending on the season.  
  14. Purdue - This feels like piling on, but until they prove otherwise they stay here.  
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Posted: 8/19/2014 7:28 AM

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1. MSU
They are the defending champions. They should be #1 for now.

2. Ohio state
OSU proved last year they can win without Miller, they will always be near the top no matter who is the QB.

3. Iowa
The easy schedule is over-rated. An easy schedule can make an otherwise 8-4 team a 9-3 team instead but it can't turn it into a 12-1 conference champ. Whoever wins the west has to beat the other teams in its division. But with that said, I believe that Iowa will be the best team in the west.

4. Wisconsin
They may be better by Nov, but right now I cant put them any higher

5. Nebraska
A lot has said about Pellini always winning 9 games which tells me they are overdue for a 7-6 season

6. Minnesota
I am surprised how little respect Minny is getting after 2 straight bowl seasons

7. Maryland
Don't know much about MD. But they were 7-6 last year

8. Indiana
its time to put up or shut up for Kevin Wilson

9. Michigan
Idk, they were just so bad down the stretch last year. I think they got some issues.

10. ILLINOIS
They got to get better, right?

11. Penn State
PSU is a mystery to me. If they were going to bottom out due to the penalties, this might be the year, right?

12. Rutgers
Dont know much about Rutgers, but they dont seem to get much respect in pre-season rankings

13. Northwestern
while I agree last year NW was the unluckiest team in the history of the big ten, that fact covers up for a downward trend that I think will continue. I just have a feeling NW will totally bottom out this year.

14. Purdue
Purdue was just awful last year. They cant possibly be that bad again. But for now, they are #14 until they get that break-through win.

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Posted: 8/19/2014 7:28 AM

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1. Michigan State
2. Ohio State
3. Wisconsin
4. Nebraska
5. Iowa
6. Michigan
7. Indiana
8. Minnesota
9. Penn State
10 Northwestern
11. Maryland
12. Illinois
13. Rutgers
14. Purdue
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Posted: 8/19/2014 7:54 AM

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  1. Michigan State
  2. Ohio State
  3. Iowa
  4. Wisconsin
  5. Michigan
  6. Nebraska
  7. Minnesota
  8. Penn State
  9. Indiana
  10. Northwestern
  11. Maryland
  12. Illinois
  13. Rutgers
  14. Purdue
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Posted: 8/19/2014 9:03 AM

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1. Michigan State
2. Wisconsin
3. Penn State
4. Nebraska.
5. Michigan.
6. Iowa
7. Ohio State
8. Minnesotta
9. Indiana
10 Illinois
11. Northwestern
12. Maryland
13 Rutgers
14 Purdue
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Posted: 8/19/2014 9:22 AM

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1) MSU

2) Nebraska - Feels way too high, but lacking other options.

3) Wisconsin - Will probably move up as team gains experience.

4) OSU - Obviously Miller, but also O-line and Secondary concerns.

5) Michigan - Could be better; have to prove it to me.

6) PSU - No idea what to expect.

7) Iowa - A team is more than it's schedule. Gonna have to prove it to me.

8) Maryland - I think they're better than people are giving them credit for.

9) Minnesota - Will go as far Leidner's development takes them.

10) Indiana - If they ever find a defense...

11) Northwestern - Recent losses bump them down.

12) Illinois - Bit of a wildcard. Could surprise if QB works out and defense is at least serviceable.

13) Rutgers

14) Purdue

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Posted: 8/19/2014 9:28 AM

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1. MSU
2. Wisconsin
3. OSU
4. Nebraska
5. PSU
6. Iowa
7. Minnesota
8. Northwestern
9. Michigan
10. Maryland
11. Indiana
12. Illinois
13. Rutgers
14. Purdue

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Posted: 8/19/2014 10:23 AM

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1. MSU
2. Wisconsin
3. Ohio St
4. Iowa
5. Michigan
6. Penn St
7. Nebraska
8. Maryland
9. Minnesota
10. Northwestern
11. Indiana
12. Illinois
13. Rutgers
14. Purdue

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Posted: 8/19/2014 10:35 AM

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1. Michigan State
2. Wisconsin
3. Iowa
4. Michigan
5. Nebraska
6. Ohio State
7. Penn State
8. Minnesota
9. Maryland
10. Indiana
11. Northwestern
12. Purdue
13. Rutgers
14. Illinois
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Posted: 8/19/2014 10:53 AM

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I dunno, I dunno, I dunno...Guess I will copy-pasta someone here. BuckeyeAvenger's looks about right with two tweaks. 

1.)Michigan State
2.) Wisconsin 
3.) Ohio State
4.) Iowa
5.) Michigan
6.) Nebraska
7.) Penn State 
8.) Northwestern
9.) Maryland 
10.) Indiana 
11.) Minnesota 
12.) Illinois .
13.) Purdue
14.) Rutgers


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Posted: 8/19/2014 10:58 AM

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We'll see about RU. Truth is, not many of the reports I read in national magazines have any clue about RU. They don't account for people who are there and have people who aren't there in their starting depth chart. There are many question marks I agree but that doesn't necessarily mean bad - it means unproven. If some issues are resolved (e.g. secondary depth) then they may see a huge jump up in strength. With Rossi as coach, returning experience and outstanding freshmen talent in the secondary there is reason they can be much better. Last year against much better passing offenses than they'll face this year (They had Bortles, Bridgewater and Carr on their schedule) with no experience at secondary, they struggled until a new coach was named. This year, they face more balanced teams with the exception of Washington State, and they are stout against the run. They don't have the depth though that many of their B1G brethren have in certain spots. So it will be interesting.
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Posted: 8/19/2014 11:02 AM

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1. Michigan State
2. Iowa
3. Wisconsin
4. Ohio State
5. Nebraska
6. Penn State
7. Michigan
8. Minnesota
9. Maryland
10. Northwesterm
11. Indiana
12. Rutgers
13. Purdue
14. Illinois
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Posted: 8/19/2014 11:19 AM

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Tjl630 wrote: We'll see about RU. Truth is, not many of the reports I read in national magazines have any clue about RU. They don't account for people who are there and have people who aren't there in their starting depth chart. There are many question marks I agree but that doesn't necessarily mean bad - it means unproven. If some issues are resolved (e.g. secondary depth) then they may see a huge jump up in strength. With Rossi as coach, returning experience and outstanding freshmen talent in the secondary there is reason they can be much better. Last year against much better passing offenses than they'll face this year (They had Bortles, Bridgewater and Carr on their schedule) with no experience at secondary, they struggled until a new coach was named. This year, they face more balanced teams with the exception of Washington State, and they are stout against the run. They don't have the depth though that many of their B1G brethren have in certain spots. So it will be interesting.
They will certainly have an opportunity to move up. This ranking isn't intended to be a season projection, but rather a ranking of where teams are at right now. There's always a lot of question marks and hype and so on in the preseason, and therefore, there is quite a bit of movement as the season progresses.

Medina will take the results and chart the flow. It's interesting and entertaining (to me at least).

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Posted: 8/19/2014 12:04 PM

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1. Michigan: Two years ago I went with MSU, who went like 7-5. I went away from them in favor of Michigan, and they rumbled through the conference. Instead of running away from another underachiever, I'm sticking with them. Their biggest weakness was the run game, and while early returns suggest that isn't great, it has to be better than last year. Gardner is a senior quarterback, and among the best in the Big Ten. The defense was at time pretty bad, but they are healthier and should be stout. I'm sticking with them.

2. Michigan St.: Wonderful year last year, but it can be difficult to replicate that success.

3. Wisconsin: Might as well pick them here.

4. OSU: Assuming Braxton is done, the Bucks can still field a pretty competitive team if the QB isn't terrible. Must get something out of new running game and new defense. Running game is destined to be worse than last year, but defense destined to be better.

5. Nebraska: A more stable quarterback position should mean a more stable team.

6. Iowa: Solid across the board, but one wonders if they are anything more than that.

7. Penn State: Always a wile card given their scholarship situation and new coach. Not sure what to expect.

8. Minnesota: Another year, a bit more improvement.

9. Northwestern: Having some tough breaks lately.

10. Maryland: Hard to place - think they could be a lot higher and should be if they stay healthy.

11. Rutgers: I guess.

12. Indiana: If they ever decide to play defense they could be pretty good.

13. Illinois: Because.

14. Purdue: Will hopefully climb out of the ceiling.
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Posted: 8/19/2014 12:22 PM

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1. MICHIGAN STATE - with Miller out, it's sort of by default for now
2. OHIO STATE - had a wide gap between them and #2, so I still put them here
3. WISCONSIN - an always underrated passing attack looks to be dangerously weak, but running game is up to standard
4. IOWA - if not this year, when?
5. NEBRASKA - what is the standard for Bo keeping his job?
6. MICHIGAN - still too many question marks on the OL, RB and WR
7. MINNESOTA - Hageman may be the toughest graduating senior to replace in the conference
8. PENN STATE - not a lot of depth, particularly on the OL, need Hackenburg to lift everyone around him
9. INDIANA - Wilson probably needs to make a bowl this year
10. MARYLAND - as much NFL talent as anyone in the league, but no depth
11. NORTHWESTERN - Mark transfer and Jones injury leaves them with serious lack of playmakers
12. ILLINOIS - probably Beckman's last year
13. RUTGERS - not the ideal year to step up in competition
14. PURDUE - need to AD to be very, very, very patient, Hazell is a good fit

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Posted: 8/19/2014 12:23 PM

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Michigan State
Wisconsin
Iowa
Ohio State
Nebraska
Michigan
Penn State
Northwestern
Maryland
Minnesota
Rutgers
Indiana
Illinois
Purdue
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Posted: 8/19/2014 12:34 PM

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1. Michigan State - replace the defensive studs?

2. Ohio State  - Braxton and Carlos

3. Wisconsin - QB and replacing defense

4. Nebraska - QB play and Linebackers

5. Iowa - replacing Linebackers

6. Minnesota - QB and WRs?

7. Northwestern - tough losses

8. Penn State - new coordinators

9. Michigan - O-line?

10. Maryland - defense

11. Indiana - defense

12. Rutgers

13. Purdue

14. Illinois

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Posted: 8/19/2014 1:43 PM

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Hey Tjl630, we'd be happy to include your thoughts, go ahead and vote.  You are right, there are a lot of things we don't know and you'll see a lot more variation on this vote than you will later in the year for that reason.  
IAhawk15 wrote:
Tjl630 wrote: We'll see about RU. Truth is, not many of the reports I read in national magazines have any clue about RU. They don't account for people who are there and have people who aren't there in their starting depth chart. There are many question marks I agree but that doesn't necessarily mean bad - it means unproven. If some issues are resolved (e.g. secondary depth) then they may see a huge jump up in strength. With Rossi as coach, returning experience and outstanding freshmen talent in the secondary there is reason they can be much better. Last year against much better passing offenses than they'll face this year (They had Bortles, Bridgewater and Carr on their schedule) with no experience at secondary, they struggled until a new coach was named. This year, they face more balanced teams with the exception of Washington State, and they are stout against the run. They don't have the depth though that many of their B1G brethren have in certain spots. So it will be interesting.
They will certainly have an opportunity to move up. This ranking isn't intended to be a season projection, but rather a ranking of where teams are at right now. There's always a lot of question marks and hype and so on in the preseason, and therefore, there is quite a bit of movement as the season progresses.

Medina will take the results and chart the flow. It's interesting and entertaining (to me at least).
Thanks IAhawk!
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Posted: 8/19/2014 4:40 PM

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LittlePig wrote:
3. Iowa
The easy schedule is over-rated. An easy schedule can make an otherwise 8-4 team a 9-3 team instead but it can't turn it into a 12-1 conference champ. Whoever wins the west has to beat the other teams in its division. But with that said, I believe that Iowa will be the best team in the west.
The more teams we add to the conference the more I disagree with this.  Based on the votes in this thread so far (through Fearless), Iowa is scheduled to play only two of the best seven teams in the conference and they play both of those teams at home.  

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Rank.1234567891011121314.Rank
.TeamMSUUWtOSUIowaUNLMPSUMNMDIUNUILLRUPUTeam.
1MSUn/amiss11/8, Amiss10/4, A10/25, A11/29, Hmiss11/15, H10/18, Hmissmiss11/22, A10/11, HMSU1
2UWmissn/amiss11/22, H11/15, Amissmiss11/29, A10/25, Amiss10/4, H10/11, A11/1, H11/8, HUW2
3tOSU11/8, Hmissn/amissmiss11/29, A10/25, H11/15, H10/4, H11/22, Amiss11/1, A10/18, AmisstOSU3
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13RU11/22, H11/1, A10/18, Hmiss10/25, H10/4, A9/13, Amiss11/29, H11/15, Amissmissn/amissRU13
14PU10/11, A11/8, Amiss9/27, A11/1, Hmissmiss10/18, Hmiss11/29, H11/22, A10/4, Hmissn/aPU14
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My thoughts on the schedules:
  1. Michigan State - A fantastic schedule for a contender.  They get their three toughest games at home (tOSU, UNL, M).  Even if we thought they were the third or fourth best team in the conference instead of the best, I'd still pick them to go 8-0 and head to Indy because the schedule just isn't very daunting.  
  2. Wisconsin - Also a helpful schedule for a contender.  Three of their four toughest games are at home so if we are right that they are one of the top three or four teams in the conference, they should do no worse than 7-1.  The downside is that their toughest game could determine the Division Championship and that one is on the road.  
  3. Ohio State - This will be a great schedule . . . if the Buckeyes implode and struggle for bowl eligibility.  If the Buckeyes end up as a middling team (I voted them #5) this schedule could be a problem.  They play #1, #7, #8, and #9 on the road.  For a middling team, that looks like a 1-3 or 0-4 road record.  
  4. Iowa - The Hawkeyes have easily the best schedule among the contenders.  They only play two of the conference's best seven teams and they get both of those at home (albeit six days apart at the end of November).  
  5. Nebraska - This schedule is a disaster for a contender.  The Huskers get their three toughest opponents on the road and their three easiest at home.  They and Purdue should switch!  If Nebraska finishes 6-2 I will probably rank them ahead of 8-0 or 7-1 Badger or Hawkeye teams.  
  6. Michigan - This schedule will make it very difficult to gauge Michigan's season.  It seems to be designed to drag down a contender or prop up a middling team.  They could be anywhere from #1 to #9 and still be predicted to finish 6-2.  
  7. Penn State - I see this as a schedule that could go either way for the Nittany Lions.  They only play one of the top nine teams in the league on the road.  If PSU is a good team they could plausibly go 4-0 on the road.  Then a split of games hosting the Buckeyes and Spartans would get them to 7-1.  OTOH, if they are not a very good team they'll lose to both tOSU and MSU at home as well as Michigan on the road.  They'll also be on upset alert in road games against IU and ILL.  
  8. Minnesota - The Gophers play five of the conference's six best teams and they visit three of them.  That makes it awfully difficult to predict anything better than 3-5 for this team.  
  9. Maryland - Welcome to the B1G, Terps!  Yikes, the new guys with the crabcakes at their tailgates (I really want to try that) have to play six of the seven best teams in the league.  It gets worse though.  They are ranked #9 and the three teams ranked closest to them on their schedule (#6M, #7PSU, and #10IU) are all on the road.  I can't see them beating any of the top four and I think #6, #7, and #10 might be possible at home but not likely on the road.  I see this as a 1-7 schedule.  
  10. Indiana - I think this is a highly favorable schedule for the Hoosiers.  They get three of their four toughest opponents on the road but they probably were not going to beat any of those teams anyway.  The advantage is that they get home-field advantage in three of their four easiest games.  
  11. Northwestern - It is really shocking how far this team has fallen in less than a year.  On October 1, 2013 the Wildcats were 4-0, ranked #16 in the Nation, and heading into an important showdown with Ohio State.  They are 1-7 since then and the schedule this year doesn't help much.  Of the bottom eight teams in the conference, Northwestern only hosts one.  They should probably beat Purdue even in West Lafayette but that leaves no room for error.  They need to go 4-0 OOC and beat Illinois and Purdue to get back to a bowl.  
  12. Illinois - The Illini have a favorable schedule if they can improve a little bit.  They play three of the league's eight worst teams at home.  If they can be 'not awful' they could go 3-5 in the league and 3-1 OOC to get to a bowl at 6-6.  
  13. Rutgers - Welcome to the B1G, Scarlet Knights!  The new guys from Sopranoland have to play eight of the conference's ten best teams.  I think that Rutgers will get their first B1G Basketball Win before they get their first B1G Football win.  
  14. Purdue - This is a great schedule . . . for a contender.  It is a disaster for a team that needs help just to get off the mat.  The Boilermakers could improve substantially and still go winless in the B1G.  The problem is that four of their five easiest games are on the road.  If they don't beat Northwestern at home or Illinois on the road then I just can't see them picking up their first B1G win since 2012.  

We haven't had two winless teams since 1993 (Northwestern and Purdue).  I think that streak is under serious threat this year as I believe that the Purdue/Illinois and Maryland/Rutgers losers could both go 0-8.  

Worst team each year since 1993:
  • 1993, 0-8, NU and PU
  • 1994, 1-7, MN
  • 1995, 0-8, IU
  • 1996, 1-7, MN, IU, and ILL
  • 1997, 0-8, ILL
  • 1998, 0-8, NU
  • 1999, 0-8, Iowa
  • 2000, 2-6, ILL, MSU, and IU
  • 2001, 2-6, MN and NU
  • 2002, 1-7, IU and NU
  • 2003, 0-8, ILL
  • 2004, 1-7, ILL and IU
  • 2005, 0-8, ILL
  • 2006, 1-7, MSU and ILL
  • 2007, 0-8, MN
  • 2008, 1-7, IU
  • 2009, 1-7, IU and M
  • 2010, 1-7, IU
  • 2011, 0-8, IU
  • 2012, 0-8, ILL
  • 2013, 0-8, PU
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Posted: 8/19/2014 4:49 PM

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medinabuckeye1 wrote:

We haven't had two winless teams since 1993 (Northwestern and Purdue).  I think that streak is under serious threat this year as I believe that the Purdue/Illinois and Maryland/Rutgers losers could both go 0-8.  
LOL!  What?!?

I don't bet on anything, but I'd bet my house that you're in for a rude awakening.  No way we go 0-8, or even 1-7.  Sorry....not happening.

IF we lose every WR, QB, and RB in the first 5 weeks, we'll agree, but there is just way too much speed and talent on the offense, and way too much discipline on defense for that to happen.

The guys went to CP to talk Maryland FB, and said those guys were hitting harder than Ohio State players were.

I guess all that "SPEED" we recruited will be wasted on those BIG BOYS of the B1G.  We don't stand a chance.
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Posted: 8/19/2014 5:36 PM

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medinabuckeye1 wrote:
LittlePig wrote:
3. Iowa
The easy schedule is over-rated. An easy schedule can make an otherwise 8-4 team a 9-3 team instead but it can't turn it into a 12-1 conference champ. Whoever wins the west has to beat the other teams in its division. But with that said, I believe that Iowa will be the best team in the west.
The more teams we add to the conference the more I disagree with this.  Based on the votes in this thread so far (through Fearless), Iowa is scheduled to play only two of the best seven teams in the conference and they play both of those teams at home.  


My thoughts on the schedules:
  1. Wisconsin - Also a helpful schedule for a contender.  Three of their four toughest games are at home so if we are right that they are one of the top three or four teams in the conference, they should do no worse than 7-1.  The downside is that their toughest game could determine the Division Championship and that one is on the road.  
  2. Iowa - The Hawkeyes have easily the best schedule among the contenders.  They only play two of the conference's best seven teams and they get both of those at home (albeit six days apart at the end of November).  
Even though Wisconsin plays at Iowa, I think they have just as easy, if not an easier conference schedule.

Iowa has 4 opponents with bye weeks ahead of their matchup, although Iowa has a mutual bye for one of those games, so net 3. Wisconsin has 1 such opponent.

Iowa plays back to back road games twice. Wisconsin once.

Both teams go east to play, but Iowa plays the tougher opponent (IMO): @Maryland > @Rutgers.

I think Iowa has tougher crossover matchups: @Maryland, Indy > Maryland, @Rutgers.

Finally, considering UW is 2-0 in Iowa City and Iowa is 1-2 in Minneapolis since 2010, I think the cumulative away schedules are pretty even for both teams: @Minny, @Maryland, @Illinois, @Purdue = @Iowa, @Northwestern, @Rutgers, @Purdue.

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LOL!  What?!?

I don't bet on anything, but I'd bet my house that you're in for a rude awakening.  No way we go 0-8, or even 1-7.  Sorry....not happening.

IF we lose every WR, QB, and RB in the first 5 weeks, we'll agree, but there is just way too much speed and talent on the offense, and way too much discipline on defense for that to happen.

The guys went to CP to talk Maryland FB, and said those guys were hitting harder than Ohio State players were.

I guess all that "SPEED" we recruited will be wasted on those BIG BOYS of the B1G.  We don't stand a chance.
Here is the thing:  Generically, I wouldn't have picked Maryland to go 0-8.  I would have thought something like 3-5.  Then I looked at the schedule.  I don't think Maryland can beat MSU, tOSU, or Iowa at home.  I also think road-games are tough and it is going to be very difficult for Maryland to win in Madison, Ann Arbor, or State College.  That only leaves two opportunities:  @IU and v. RU.  I already conceded the RU game (because I said the loser).  Maybe Maryland can win in Bloomington.  If not then I think we'll see 1-7.  Oh, I also covered myself another way because I said "the loser" not "your team" so if Maryland goes 8-0 and Rutgers goes 0-8 I'm still right.  tongue
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I've got Maryland at 4-4. I feel pretty confident in them beating Indiana, Iowa and Rutgers, and then I think they steal another one.

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7-6 was a fantastic turnout considering all we lost in the first 7 games. Even though it's ODU, they were an FBS school, so no FCS schools were on the schedule.

And, after the personnel losses, to go toe to toe with Clemson and BC (losing by a stupid TimeOut when the kicker was given a 2nd chance to kick), which gave FSU the biggest headache, and beating VT AT Lane Stadium with a healthier CJ and one of the toughest defenses in the country last year, plus drumming NCST (who admittedly sucked), I think we did well.

Marshall had a 12th ranked offense and was 9-4. Our defense, despite the injuries, finished 44th. Our offense, dropped the most due to injury, to 75th. Not exactly an even match up, but it helped the new blood get a taste of playing in a bowl.

We lose 1 Olineman, and 1 LB. 1 TE, and 1 CB. With everyone healthy, this team is hard to beat.

I'd compare them to Nebraska with Martinez and that offense. The diamond formation, and tons of weapons to run it. CJ is a better passer though, and he cannot be caught if he gets ahead of you. I have plenty of film to prove it.

Edit:  Sorry for the hijack.  I get carried away.

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