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OT - Do u believe in sports-related curses?

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Posted: 6/9/2014 12:38 AM

OT - Do u believe in sports-related curses? 


A few that come to mind are:


- Madden 

- Sports Illustrated

- Iowa running back

- wearing a purple helmet with a white 'N' on it
- Billie Goat
- many wrestlers dying at an early age
- being a team in Cleveland

If u have an opinion either way regarding this topic, please share

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Posted: 6/9/2014 7:22 AM

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No, but if they do, Purdue must have pissed in some sports god's cheerios at some point.
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Posted: 6/9/2014 8:12 AM

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While it isn't relevant in every case, I think the deaths of many wrestlers probably has to do with heavy steroid, and other drugs, use.

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Posted: 6/9/2014 9:35 AM

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What's the Iowa RB curse?
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Posted: 6/9/2014 9:38 AM

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CatsbyAZ wrote: What's the Iowa RB curse?
the Hawkeye fans can clarify/confirm this but I believe for awhile now, at least one of Iowa's primary running backs has gotten injured every season
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Posted: 6/9/2014 10:08 AM

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Curse of the Babbino - Red Sox curse since they traded Babe Ruth, now defunct.
Curse of Bo - M*ch is a "500" team since Bo passed away. - End of 2006 they have a record of 50-41 (.549). That's an average of 7-6, a season.

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Posted: 6/9/2014 10:50 AM

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Nope. Don't believe in curses. Most of those come down to bad management, roids or confirmation bias (SI cover). Madden curse is because Madden tended to pick sudden rising stars or players whose games were inherently risky (mobile QBs, older backs coming off career seasons).

Iowa RBs? Well a lot of RBs and players blow out knees. I assume Iowa's bad luck there is like the inverse of their seasons when they win a million games by a couple points. Some teams have weird runs.
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Posted: 6/9/2014 2:33 PM

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Not since John Cooper...

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Posted: 6/9/2014 2:35 PM

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nuwildcat wrote:
CatsbyAZ wrote: What's the Iowa RB curse?
the Hawkeye fans can clarify/confirm this but I believe for awhile now, at least one of Iowa's primary running backs has gotten injured every season
It's called: Drummer-for-Spinal-Tap Syndrome.

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Posted: 6/9/2014 3:25 PM

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I don't believe in curses.

However, I do believe in self-fulfilling prophecies. An example might be the 2003 Cubs. Up 3 games to 2 in the NLCS, up 3-0 in the 8th, they have the Bartman incident.

A freak play then causes the Cubs to give up 8 runs that inning AND to lose the following game (giving up another 9 runs)? That's not a curse, that's a team believing they're cursed and throwing in the towel.

"We put two people on the moon" is an acceptable retort to "your football team sucks", right?
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Posted: 6/9/2014 6:24 PM

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Not curses, but definitely mental blocks. See the Twins during the 2000s whenever they played the Yankees in a playoff series.

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Posted: 6/9/2014 7:45 PM

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bwarbiany wrote: I don't believe in curses.

However, I do believe in self-fulfilling prophecies. An example might be the 2003 Cubs. Up 3 games to 2 in the NLCS, up 3-0 in the 8th, they have the Bartman incident.

A freak play then causes the Cubs to give up 8 runs that inning AND to lose the following game (giving up another 9 runs)? That's not a curse, that's a team believing they're cursed and throwing in the towel.

When it comes to the Cats, when push comes to shove, I probably don't think we're cursed

- we wouldn't actually have won a bowl game if that were the case

However, I'm with u as far as NU's "self-fulfilling prophecies" are concerned

- when one blows sooooo many late 4th quarter leads (some of the double-digit variety), your subconscious 'loser mentality' more times than not manages to make an appearance in da real world

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Posted: 6/9/2014 8:24 PM

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CatsbyAZ wrote: What's the Iowa RB curse?


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Posted: 6/9/2014 11:46 PM

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nuwildcat wrote: 

However, I'm with u as far as NU's "self-fulfilling prophecies" are concerned

- when one blows sooooo many late 4th quarter leads (some of the double-digit variety), your subconscious 'loser mentality' more times than not manages to make an appearance in da real world

Well, that could be a mix of good coaching with subpar talent/depth. You see it in B1G v. MAC games quite a bit. The MAC team hangs around keeping things interesting for 2 1/2 quarters, but eventually the size and conditioning of the B1G players just wears them down.

Northwestern (like Purdue) just doesn't have the athletes, especially not in the 2nd/3rd string, that a Michigan or OSU has. You're getting into the fourth quarter, team gassed, while the opponent is fresh because they've had the players to sub all day.

"We put two people on the moon" is an acceptable retort to "your football team sucks", right?
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Posted: 6/10/2014 8:04 AM

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bwarbiany wrote:
nuwildcat wrote: 

However, I'm with u as far as NU's "self-fulfilling prophecies" are concerned

- when one blows sooooo many late 4th quarter leads (some of the double-digit variety), your subconscious 'loser mentality' more times than not manages to make an appearance in da real world

Well, that could be a mix of good coaching with subpar talent/depth. You see it in B1G v. MAC games quite a bit. The MAC team hangs around keeping things interesting for 2 1/2 quarters, but eventually the size and conditioning of the B1G players just wears them down.

Northwestern (like Purdue) just doesn't have the athletes, especially not in the 2nd/3rd string, that a Michigan or OSU has. You're getting into the fourth quarter, team gassed, while the opponent is fresh because they've had the players to sub all day.
This is such the key and why even when Purdue was VERY GOOD in the 1998 to 2004 timeframe putting lots of guys in the the NFL during a great period of Big Ten football, they still often had a ton of trouble with Mich, OSU, and PSU.   Our first stringers were pretty god damn good, but overall each Boilermaker man-to-a-man were probably not as good as those other teams, so once you get to the 10th and 11th guy facing each other O vs D, or moreover, by November when injuries are taking a toll and it's 18th vs 18th, the Helmet U's very young playmaker who started the season as a back up but has a lot of NFL potential is definitely more naturally talented than the nobody Tiller's staff developed into our 18th guy.  So at the point of attack late in the game, when it's literally "game of inches" time, the Helmet U usually would prevail. 

I submit the 2003 season when Purdue should have beaten Georgia and won at OSU, they outplayed both in very even games, luck went a little bit in favor of the opponent in key plays, and Helmet U pulled it out making the key plays at the end.

In 2002 Purdue was a younger, but still very talented version of the 2003 team and actually led the conf in both offensive and defense, yet only went 4-4 in conf as turnovers were a plague that year and they lost very close ones to OSU, Iowa, Mich and IL.  In the case of all 4 games big players made big plays and won the games when it counted. 

In conference stature at that time Purdue was ahead of or equal to IL and Iowa.  Iowa was severely outplayed that day in yards of scrimmage, but Bob Sanders and Dallas Clark made a couple huge plays (to Iowa's development credit Clark started as a walk-on and Sanders wasn't heavily recruited if I remember right).  In the IL game I believe it was Brandon Lloyd who had several big plays.  (This was the insane IL game featuring a 24 pt rally where Purdue was screwed in the end by the refs...twice.  In the pre-BTN era sadly this wasn't on TV and was the proverbial 'best game that no one saw".  Most vivid time I'd ever seen a team screwed by officiating in-person.)

Some consider big plays made in key parts of the game to be a combination of coaching combined with a litrle bit of random luck.  I've seen very good Purdue teams fall short just enough times in big games to know that when they make an error (and boy did Brees have plenty of back-breaking TO's that oh-so-frequently turned into return TDs), they have to play damn near perfect from their on out, because in the end, the recruited talent on the field for Purdue, just isn't quite as good as the Helmet U across from them.  Since even the very good teams had a bit of a talent deficit, they had to make their own luck.
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Posted: 6/10/2014 9:52 AM

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Of course I believe!!!!

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Posted: 6/15/2014 8:38 AM

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Yes, the Bengals will probably never win a SB - still paying the sports Gods for the Ickey shuffle.

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Posted: 6/15/2014 11:02 PM

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Did the Curse of the Billy Goat start 40-years before the Cubs were said to have been cursed by the Billy Goat Curse?

Could just be that every once in a while someone, or some franchise, has a bad century, or more.
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