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So which teams use a pro-style offense?

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Posted: 2/24/2010 10:46 AM

So which teams use a pro-style offense? 


If you're a QB recruit who dreams of being an NFL star, what programs offer you an offense that can teach you how to play there?

Pittsburgh is one place.  Alabama is another.  What else is there?
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Posted: 2/24/2010 1:09 PM

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Mike Riley at Oregon State runs a pro-style offense.
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Posted: 2/24/2010 5:51 PM

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So, would you rather run a "pro-style offense" or actually win your conference?
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Posted: 2/24/2010 6:25 PM

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Notre Dame maybe? They seem too run a pro-style offense or at least they run a few plays like it per game. Someone that knows better, feel free to correct me. Boston College maybe also.

Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but pro-style is a fairly broad field.
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Posted: 2/24/2010 8:04 PM

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PennState4Life wrote: If you're a QB recruit who dreams of being an NFL star, what programs offer you an offense that can teach you how to play there?

Pittsburgh is one place.  Alabama is another.  What else is there?
This question comes up alot for pro-fans monitoring CFB. If I understand your reasons for creating this thread correctly, you are implying that it is better for a pro-aspiring QB to run a pro style offense in college? That premise is probably not accurate. Pro-playbooks vary greatly from team to team, but the one thing they all have in common is that they are all greatly more complex than college play-books.
For instance, most pro play calling involves more input from the QB & on-field personnel who have greater ability to change a play in various ways to exploit the defense they are facing. In effect, each called play from the offensive coordinator has a "plan A," a "plan B" & sometimes as much as a "plan E" sub-level that the QB can adjust to. In this way you could say that one NFL play could be as complicated as an entire college play-book. Most NFL teams have a pass pattern that is flagrantly a Run-&-Shoot derivation, just as many NFL offenses have a variation on the "option" offense in their play books.

But to answer your question more directly, Some of the teams that I see that run offenses that use 2 WR's, A TE, a RB, & FB & a QB behind their tight pocket O-line (which would be the textbook definition of a pro-style,)
USC, (although they do go to 4 or 5 WR's & power I frequently)
Colorado State (Classic Pro-style)
Colorado (Lot'sa power I on first down, but more pro-sets after)
SDSU (Kinda moving more to a pro-set is spite of the national trend)
Boise State (Classic pro-set)
Cal' (Less pro-set last year, they seem to be moving to something of a "pistol" but that probably has to do with personnel than a change in philosophy)
Fresno State (Like Cal' Fresno has been running more out of running sets lately, but that is also probably about personnel not philosophy.)
Washington State (although Wassu is probably not the example you are looking for)

However if you really just want to groom a HS QB into an NFL one I would look for a school that passes out of the shot-gun & from under center both equal parts, & also runs about 40% of the time. Preferably a school that plays a schedule that has a lot a variety with it's oppositions defensive style.
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Posted: 2/24/2010 9:23 PM

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Hawks94DE wrote: Notre Dame maybe? They seem too run a pro-style offense or at least they run a few plays like it per game. Someone that knows better, feel free to correct me. Boston College maybe also.

Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but pro-style is a fairly broad field.
ND under Charlie Weis.  But isn't Brian Kelley changing that?  I heard that is why Gio Bernard decommitted from them and wen to Virginia.

daddyact wrote: So, would you rather run a "pro-style offense" or actually win your conference?
Depends on the school.  For Oregon State, running a pro-style offense potentially helps with recruiting.  Would the recruit rather win the conference or be groomed for the NFL?  Look at Tebow, couple of championships and some Heismans, and where is he going in the NFL?

But that brings up a different point.  Would Tebow have done better in the NFL if he had been a QB under a pro-style offense system?  Maybe he wouldn't have been the QB under that offense so maybe he goes to a different school where he can be the kind of QB he is.
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Posted: 2/25/2010 7:08 AM

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daddyact wrote: So, would you rather run a "pro-style offense" or actually win your conference?

Pete Carroll's offenses won plenty of PAC 10 titles, so I don't see your point.
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Posted: 2/25/2010 11:50 AM

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daddyact wrote: So, would you rather run a "pro-style offense" or actually win your conference?

Considering the team that just won the National Championship runs a pro-style offense I'm going to dub this post as just plain goofy.

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Posted: 2/26/2010 2:52 PM

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Georgia's offense is essentially pro style and their last three QBs were drafted (not counting the current draft since it hasn't happened, and the current guy won't be drafted).

I hate all over generalizations.

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Posted: 3/17/2010 6:00 PM

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RockyTop423 wrote:
daddyact wrote: So, would you rather run a "pro-style offense" or actually win your conference?

Considering the team that just won the National Championship runs a pro-style offense I'm going to dub this post as just plain goofy.
Huh?

You think Florida runs pro-style?

That's a first.
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Posted: 3/17/2010 6:10 PM

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I am not entirely sure many pro teams run a "pro style offense".  Much of the passing game in the pros has heavily incorporated elements and sets out of the old Run & Shoot/Air Raid/Leach/Spread Air/whatever-you-like-to-call-it.  Most pro teams have incorporated line movement techniques from the spread/triple option.  And the Wilcat is being used to the extent it can hardly be considered a trick play anymore.

If by "pro-style" you mean "having the QB take the snap under center", then there are still a number of teams that do this somewhat often.  If by "pro-style" you mean "having a fullback/halfback somewhere on the field, then this is not uncommon in cfb.

If by pro-style you mean having a close set line, RB & FB/HB spread in a T behind the QB with close position linemen, a TE, and three WR's, then I strongly doubt you can find more than a handful of pro teams that play this formation more than a third of their downs anymore.

Seems to me that Ohio State and PSU and USC still take more than a few snaps under center in any given game, as do more than a few other programs.
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Posted: 3/17/2010 6:38 PM

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PiratesRoost wrote:
RockyTop423 wrote:
daddyact wrote: So, would you rather run a "pro-style offense" or actually win your conference?

Considering the team that just won the National Championship runs a pro-style offense I'm going to dub this post as just plain goofy.
Huh?

You think Florida runs pro-style?

That's a first.
Here is a quick Quizz.  What team or teams are recognized as the National Champions for the 2009-2010 season?  I'll give you a hint, it isn't Florida.
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Posted: 3/18/2010 7:00 AM

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PiratesRoost wrote:
RockyTop423 wrote:
daddyact wrote: So, would you rather run a "pro-style offense" or actually win your conference?

Considering the team that just won the National Championship runs a pro-style offense I'm going to dub this post as just plain goofy.
Huh?

You think Florida runs pro-style?

That's a first.

You lost me on this unless you're just trying to be really sarcastic.

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Posted: 3/18/2010 4:25 PM

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Yeah, this last championship was such a sleep-inducing non-event that I clean forgot about it remembering the last good team to play in a championship game.
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Posted: 3/19/2010 3:19 PM

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PiratesRoost wrote: Yeah, this last championship was such a sleep-inducing non-event that I clean forgot about it remembering the last good team to play in a championship game.
I suppose you were out of the country incommunicado and did not know that Bama destroyed that last good team who had brought back its entire two deep from that championship game that you remember.
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Posted: 3/19/2010 5:41 PM

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Way to keep digging the hole PR.
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Posted: 3/21/2010 2:03 PM

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To answer the thread topic question, Iowa also runs a pro-style offense.  However, it doesnt have good, let alone great, QB development..  Instead, the linemen and TE's benefit from playing in a pro-style offense in college when they transition over to the NFL.
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Posted: 3/24/2010 1:57 PM

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bamajoe wrote:
PiratesRoost wrote: Yeah, this last championship was such a sleep-inducing non-event that I clean forgot about it remembering the last good team to play in a championship game.
I suppose you were out of the country incommunicado and did not know that Bama destroyed that last good team who had brought back its entire two deep from that championship game that you remember.
Nah, the SEC title game was interesting.  Hard to care much about a title game when the stud QB of a pass heavy team gets knocked out.  Props, or whatever, to Bama, but it didn't make for much of a game for the 99.9% of the country that are not Bama fans.
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Posted: 3/24/2010 1:58 PM

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TheMilkMansSon wrote: Way to keep digging the hole PR.
Just give me a shovel.

Digging a literal hole would have been more exhilarating than watching this last title game.
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Posted: 3/24/2010 2:23 PM

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PR makes a good point. It would be wrong to try and take anything away from Alabama but Texas losing McCoy did make for a dud of a title game. There were many signs in that game that indicated Texas would have done well had McCoy played. That freshman had some success aside from all his mistakes.

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