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Can not wait for the season, Line up

Posted: 01/23/2013 8:22 PM

Can not wait for the season, Line up 


If you are a parent of a player on the team, and I did not mention your kid, do not  take it personally, I love them all.
This is just for fun.

1- SS Pedroza (is he 100%)
2- 2B Orloff
3- 3B Chapman
4- 1B Lopez
5- CF Lorenzen
6- DH Davis
7- LF Hutting
8- C  Wallack
9- RF Williamson
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Posted: 01/24/2013 12:43 AM

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Early in the season, I'm sure we will see a variety of combinations of players in the line-up, some not in the starting line-up can play themselves into the line-up, and likewise some can play themselves out of the line-up . . . Looking forward to seeing some of the new arms on the mound, and young position players for the first time . . . Hopefully good competition at each position will keep play at a high level . . .
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Posted: 01/24/2013 5:06 PM

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2 Questions

What is the status of Davis' injury (I think it was broken clavicle)?

Does anyone think coach will give Lorenzen another shot batting first?  It would sure be nice getting 55 on base as much as possible.  Last year I believe the line up wasn't working as well as it needed to in the 3-5 spots for driving in runs, so 55 was moved down.  I would think Chapman, Lopez and Davis would be good options to fill that role.  Thoughts?
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Posted: 01/24/2013 6:29 PM

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I don't know why I never thought of it, (which is why I'm not the coach lol), but I like Hook's idea of 

1 Richy     (s) ss
2 Lorenzen (r) CF
3 Lopez      (L) 1B
4 Davis       (r) DH/P
5 Chapman  (r) 3B


Lopez, the lefty, breaks up all the rightys (minus Richy the switch hitter). It's not that I didn't like Lorenzen as a leadoff hitter, but I like the idea of him in the 2-3 hole better.  You could put him 3, but then you fill someone into the 2 hole and that moves Matt/Carlos/JD down, and I think those are the 5 best hitters.  

6 Hutting (L) LF
7 Williamson (L) RF

8 Wallach (R) C

9 Orloff (R) 2B

Haven't seen enough of Williamson, Wallach, or Orloff on a consistent basis so I kind of just penciled them in.  

2OutMonster wrote: 2 Questions

What is the status of Davis' injury (I think it was broken clavicle)?

Does anyone think coach will give Lorenzen another shot batting first?  It would sure be nice getting 55 on base as much as possible.  Last year I believe the line up wasn't working as well as it needed to in the 3-5 spots for driving in runs, so 55 was moved down.  I would think Chapman, Lopez and Davis would be good options to fill that role.  Thoughts?

Last edited 01/24/2013 8:37 PM by CSUFbruinsFAN

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Posted: 01/24/2013 8:45 PM

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2OutMonster, Davis is fine.  He was hitting most of the fall and gradually worked his way back into pitching late in the fall.  Don't agree with Lorenzen as a leadoff hitter.  He should be hitting in a position to drive people in.
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Posted: 01/24/2013 8:56 PM

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Hutting would also be a good choice to hit 2nd.  He works counts and makes contact - 23/10 BB/K ratio last season and he led the team in OBP.  He is also a solid bunter (one of several guys with seven SAC's).  His only drawback for that spot is he has average speed.
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Posted: 01/24/2013 9:27 PM

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Yeah, I had Hutting as my original 2 and Lorenzen in 3 hole.  Either are good options, but I think 1 Richy 2 Lorenzen provides some more speed at top.  Glad I'm not one who has to make these calls.  Doesn't matter, I bet the lineup will be different in May than it was in February.  I just hope Hook has to fill out a lineup card come June.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 6:14 AM

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Coach Vanderhook discusses what the lineup will be in his video interview on the athletic web site.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 9:22 AM

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Hook did a good job overviewing everything.  Based on an interpretation of what Hook says in the video, it sounds like the lineup shakes out like this:

1.  Pedroza, SS
2.  Lorenzen, CF
3.  Chapman, 3B
4.  Lopez, 1B
5.  Davis, DH
6.  Wallach, C
7.  Hutting, LF
8.  Williamson/Velasquez, RF
9.  Orloff, 2B

I really like that lineup construction.  I was never a proponent of Lorenzen leading off last year.  This season there are enough experienced pieces for the middle of the order (specifically Chapman, Lopez, Davis) that I think slotting Lorenzen is the second spot makes sense.  Pedroza doesn't steal a lot, so it's not as though Lorenzen will be taking pitches and bunting in that position.  He gets to just hit.  Not be the table setter, not be the run producer, just hit.  That may end up being best for him, as well as the team.  Once again, the depth is outstanding, but I did think that last year too.  Velasquez, Diemer, Kingsolver, Dale, Jeffries, Deacon, Watkins and Kennedy are the players Hook mentioned.  

Deciphering the pitching rotation was a little trickier.  He mentioned six guys vying for starting spots.  I'll take a guess and say it shakes out like this early on:

Fri - Wiest
Sat - Gauna
Sun - Garza 
Midweek - Eschelman
Midweek #2 - J.D. Davis

Middle relief - Kuhl, Peitzmeier, Cardona, Murray and Conant
End of game - Lorenzen, Lopez, Birosak

Most people probably expect the two freshman (Garza/Eschelman) to be in the starting rotation.  I may be reading too much into things, based on last year I think Koby Gauna deserves significant innings on this staff.  If he's being used as a starter, then I think he has a leg up on the youngsters for now.  I was a little surprised to hear Hook mention Lopez and Birosak at the back end of games.  The two side-arm/submarine guys were nice 1-2 hitter options last year.  That may still be the role he is implying.  Lots of youth on this staff still, nearly everyone is a Soph or Frosh, so there could be some learning curves early.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 8:40 PM

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So, as a guy that does not follow that closely, does this line up address the problems from last year and look like an improvement? You guys are such great fans I respect your judgements. Omaha????
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Posted: 01/26/2013 9:38 AM

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Well, I"ll take a stab, even though there are many who could answer this question better than I can.

It's hard to say for sure, but it seems like it could be better, even if just by having an extra year under all their belts.

1. Richy.  He's been one of our best hitters, average wise.

2. Lorenzen. We saw what he could do as freshman, and last year's numbers were considered a slump.  I think we all know what he's capable of.
3. Chapman.  Sophomore with huge potential, scouts all over him, had a good summer and is looking to have a great sophomore year.
4. Lopez.  Won't put up the HR numbers, but that's rarely our MO and he is a line drive machine.
5. Davis.  Again, entering sophomore who had good summer and oozing with potential after a less than stellar Freshman year despite a power surge at end.
6. Wallach.  Said to have improved his defense a lot in off season.  Offensively may be best bet at catcher.  We could also see other catchers (Deacon) and some innings to develop Kennedy. 

7-9. Depends on who gets the OF spots.  Haven't seen enough to give an opinion.  
Orloff- Hope he can put up something close to what he did last year in limited ABs.  

Feel free to correct me, I consider myself a casual fan, but I think it's possible for the similar group to do better just by maturing a year.  

STTITANFAN wrote: So, as a guy that does not follow that closely, does this line up address the problems from last year and look like an improvement? You guys are such great fans I respect your judgements. Omaha????
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Posted: 01/26/2013 11:09 AM

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Without going into too much detail, I think CSUFbruinsFan description is an accurate view of how I feel.  A lot of these guys are a year older (more mature).  That alone typically allows for some improvement.  I thought a few guys underperformed last season.  Just getting the performance they are capable of from Lorenzen and Lopez will make this offense significantly better.  Chapman and Davis may both take big steps forward as well. 

I'm expecting this to be the best offense in the new bat regulation era for the Titans (that only means besting the last two years).
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Posted: 02/03/2013 10:21 AM

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Just finished watching the baseball preview (great interview and loads of information) and I am now ready to shake things up.

As an arm-chair manager there are two things I know: AJ Kennedy is by far the best defensive catcher on the team and I just have to have Chapman as my starting SS due to his size and ability to get to any ball.

Next I know that J.D. Davis' bat has to be in the lineup. It would be foolish to not play him. And that is why sacrifices will have to be made because Davis, apparently, can only play first base and there is no way I am benching Carlos Lopez at the start of the season.

I also know that, no matter how much certain players are loyal Titans and I love them all dearly, my job is on the line and I am going to have to make tough decisions and bench some seniors.

  1. 2B: Richy Pedroza - Love this kid and can hit. Fairly easy decision.
  2. LF: Anthony Hutting - With that gap between 1st and 2nd, I just have to have a lefty here and I love his swing and he almost always makes contact (only 10 K's last year). He will never be benched under my watch.
  3. CF: Michael Lorenzen - Don't think there is a better 3-hitter in the college game. He is made for this slot.
  4. DH: J.D. Davis - Yum.
  5. SS: Matt Chapman - Stud shortstop and a stud hitter. Can't go wrong here.
  6. 3B: Chad Wallach - With his summer and his fall, have no choice but to start him to begin the year. Defensively I hear the hemming and hawing in the stands but if he can play catcher, he can play 3rd (plus it's in his genes). If he falters at the plate, David Olmedo-Barrera is my go-to third baseman.
  7. 1B: Carlos Lopez - Solid but need a better year at the plate, otherwise may need to move J.D. to first and have Wallach my DH.
  8. RF: Greg Velazquez - Just barely over Austin Kingsolver and Clay Williamson to start the season. Competition is good.
  9. C: A.J. Kennedy - Rocket for an arm and my pitchers respond to that confidence behind the plate. Any hits he can get will be playing with house money.

Controversial, maybe. But my philosophy is to be as strong, defensively, up the middle as possible and then get the best offensive players in the lineup. Mission accomplished. Omaha accomplished.
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Posted: 02/03/2013 1:26 PM

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TC . . . I was surely impressed watching AJ last year in high school . . . This young man is our future behind the plate, just not sure if a freshman can catch, and handle a young pitching staff . . . Agree on Richy, he looks more natural at 2nd base . . . Hey guys, I'm ready, lets play some ball, will support any and all lineups Coach Hook puts on the field, hope many of the Titans contribute to this year's success . . .

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Posted: 02/03/2013 11:26 PM

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I agree, with a lot of what you say, and then you go , Olmedo at 3rd base, base on what?
Chapman is an awesome player, but Pedroza is a better SS, and Chapman is the best 3B we have by far.
JD is an amazing hitter, and DH or First, he will shine, Lopez is a better 1st baseman, but it will comes down to hitting.
AJ may be our best catcher, but not by much, Wallach is improving by the hour.
Re-inventing the wheel is fun, but not productive.
I believed this will be Coach line up.

SS Pedroza
1B Lopez
3B Chapman
DH Davis          Velasquez is mashing and so is Davis 
CF Lorenzen
C   Wallack       AJ defensively late in the games
LF Hutting
RF Kingsolver or Williamson tough decision
2B Orloff

I will be wrong, either now, or ten games down the line.
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Posted: 02/04/2013 9:07 AM

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Obviously Chapman would be great at 3B, but I think he is a better SS than Pedroza and Pedroza is a better second baseman than Orloff. Stats may say differently but they don't always tell the full story.

I hope you are right about Wallach but he will have to have improved a lot since the fall and I can argue that A.J. is improving and getting stronger as well, unless he is injured. I just think the catcher position has been our biggest weakness the past couple years and now that we have a really good one, we should use him.

As for what Vanderhook will do, there is no way he will use my lineup or play Wallach at 3B. I doubt he will even put the lefty Kinglsolver in RF so I think, as others have stated, it will likely be Williamson or Velasquez. I also don't think he is as high on Hutting as I am. If true, big mistake. In all cases, the sooner he settles in on a lineup, the better off we'll be. Last year was a disaster as far as that went. He can almost do no wrong with the talent he has and the biggest mistake would be to not make decisive decisions.
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Posted: 02/04/2013 12:17 PM

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I got to watch about 5 innings of the scrimmage on Saturday, getting another look at a few guys.  Some random thoughts based on what others have mentioned on this thread:

- Koby Guana looked about the same as last year.  He was still throwing pretty well deeper into the game.  Considering he has experience, is starting in scrimmages, and threw on Saturday, I'm still predicting him to be the opening weekend Saturday starter.  Everything lines up well for that scenario.  I'm not positive, but I believe he was going head-to-head with freshman Shane Stillwagon in the scrimmage, not one of the other pitchers expected to be battling for a weekend rotation spot.

- A lot of people on the board seem to like A.J. Kennedy.  He showed off his arm a few times on stolen base attempts and back-picking runners.  He's got a very good arm and likes to throw, clearly positives.  I just don't see the rest of his game as ready to be the starter yet.  Bright future and maybe that opinion will change during the year.  From the scrimmages I've seen in the fall and this weekend, there is still progress to be made on both the offensive side and receiving part as a catcher.  He was having trouble handling some pitches this weekend, had a costly passed ball.  When it comes to the offense, he's going to behind Wallach, Deacon and Watkins at this point in time in my opinion.  Since the offense is going to be less, he really needs to be a big upgrade defensively.  For the start of the season, I'm not sure that is the case.  

- There was a good crowd out at the game, a lot of parents probably.  It's nice to see that type of support for a random February scrimmage.  

- The teams were divided pretty evenly, it was difficult to get a true gauge on the current starting lineup from that game.  Sometimes the infield or outfield is kept together to get some cohesiveness, but I didn't think that was the case from the weekend.  Everyone was just split up.  

- On kind of a nice side note, got to see Chad Cordero throw in a start to a comeback attempt.  It was a pleasant surprise seeing him throwing fairly well.

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Posted: 02/09/2013 5:42 PM

Today's lineup 


This will look familiar during the season for the most part with occasional tinkering, especially in the corner OF spots.

SS Pedroza
1B Lopez
3B Chapman
DH Davis
RF Williamson
CF Lorenzen
C Wallach
LF Kingsolver
2B Orloff

Wiest (4 IP) and Garza (5 IP) split up the innings.  They will be the SP's next Sat against Nebraska.  Eshelman will start on Friday against USC, Gauna will start on Sun at Bakersfield and Davis will start on Tues at P'dine.

Last edited 02/10/2013 7:40 AM by FullertonBaseballFan

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Posted: 02/09/2013 6:16 PM

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I really like that Freshman's outing today at the Alumni game. He kept himself very compose after facing Big Leaguers Red Turner, Blake Davis, and big Jared Clark.
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Posted: 02/10/2013 7:43 AM

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I do really like Lopez batting second and seems like a logical choice and, for whatever reason, never occurred to me. Not sure about Lorenzen batting 6th though. Perhaps he is still struggling at the plate?

What I really don't like, however, is Hutting not in the starting lineup as he should be an everyday player.

Pitching sounds good as it appears they are all fairly even at this stage and I think this will be one of those deals which will change quite a bit as the season progresses.

Anyone look really good? How did Wallach look behind the plate? Are we still bunting too much or too early to tell?

Here is the CSF Release, but no boxscore: http://www.fullertontitans.com/sports/m-basebl/201 2-13/releases/201302091674l0
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