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In My Opinion The OP Era Will Come Down To 3-4 Players.....
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Posted: 2/10/2013 6:43 PM
In My Opinion The OP Era Will Come Down To 3-4 Players.....
Basically the the Purnell era is gonna come down to the 2013 class and if they can come in and mix well with this current roster. Jr, RJ and Greg are all gonna have to be impact players next year. IMO OP has to turn the corner next season or we will be starting over again. I don't want that and none of you should either. Purnell is not a bad basketball coach. Great? Hell no. But will a group of solid players he can coach them up and win games. Which right now is all we want. IMO its a NIT or bust next season. I DO NOT think OP sees year 5 if this thing don't get off the ground next season. I'm holding out hope that he will. Only time will tell and nobody on this board knows how good theses incoming players will be. Thoughts? Or are you guys just rooting against OP?
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Last edited 2/10/2013 6:49 PM by BIGBUBBATHEBLUEDEMON
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Posted: 2/10/2013 6:53 PM
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I want DePaul to win. Bottom line. If this staff doesn't change on and off the court it will never happen. On the court they need to learn to defend and rebound as well as play with more discipline. Off the court there approach to recruiting needs to change. Not sure how though. Maybe go after kids they can get yet still upgrade the roster. Someone like the kid from Sandburg. Very good player that could blow up. Go after him early and hard.
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Posted: 2/10/2013 6:54 PM
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I want DePaul to win. Bottom line. If this staff doesn't change on and off the court it will never happen. On the court they need to learn to defend and rebound as well as play with more discipline. Off the court there approach to recruiting needs to change. Not sure how though. Maybe go after kids they can get yet still upgrade the roster. Someone like the kid from Sandburg. Very good player that could blow up. Go after him early and hard.
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Fair enough.......Thanks J
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Posted: 2/10/2013 6:56 PM
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Bubba, my biggest concern going into next year is that OP and his staff have not landed a big who can either rebound, play defense or block shots. Without having at least one person who can do these three things this team will continue to struggle w/ the way OP likes to play.
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Posted: 2/10/2013 7:00 PM
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I want to win. Period as well.
OP has proven he can win at other places. I'll give till next year. If mid-season we haven't shown any improvement then pull a JW ad can him mid-season. We can't have another season next year hoping things are going to pick up.
Land a big man for next year. If you have to let Robertson or Forrest go then be it.
Better hope Billy Jr, RJ, and Sequele can make an impact.
Like to see what Marreo provides if he returns.
Haven't been that impressed with McDonald and its a shame were losing Clahar.
This year for me is done. I cross my fingers for year 4 under OP.
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Posted: 2/10/2013 7:02 PM
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Bubba, my biggest concern going into next year is that OP and his staff have not landed a big who can either rebound, play defense or block shots. Without having at least one person who can do these three things this team will continue to struggle w/ the way OP likes to play.
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What about this big French kid coming in? I don't know a lot about him, but he did have a couple other legit HM offers. Maybe Greg Sequele is that guy.
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Posted: 2/10/2013 7:33 PM
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All things considered, I think that's a very fair outlook windy. He's here, let's just support him and hope for the best. That's my whole point. He's won every where he's been. Twist it, turn it, he made every program he was at better.
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I want to win. Period as well.
OP has proven he can win at other places. I'll give till next year. If mid-season we haven't shown any improvement then pull a JW ad can him mid-season. We can't have another season next year hoping things are going to pick up.
Land a big man for next year. If you have to let Robertson or Forrest go then be it.
Better hope Billy Jr, RJ, and Sequele can make an impact.
Like to see what Marreo provides if he returns.
Haven't been that impressed with McDonald and its a shame were losing Clahar.
This year for me is done. I cross my fingers for year 4 under OP.
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Posted: 2/10/2013 7:47 PM
Re: In My Opinion The OP Era Will Come Down To 3-4 Players.....
My biggest concern is that I want to see guys who can defend the perimeter. There are way too many situations where the defender on the ball turns his shoulders, and the dribbler blows by him and gets deep penetration into the lane. When that happens, our bigs seem to be unsure whether they should rotate and help out or stay with their men, and they often stand there and watch guys make layups. The defense seldom gets to operate as a unit because they are always reacting.
This is not to defend our bigs, because they have their weaknesses too.
I just don't know if the current staff can instill that kind team concept to this group. These guys are not bad players individually, but they don't complement each other at all.
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Posted: 2/10/2013 8:43 PM
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My initial assessment after the OP hire was that this thing would probably take 4 years before we began to see quality results. To me that translated to about 16-18 wins with an NIT bid.
I am definitely rooting for OP because if he doesn't get it done next year, we are probably looking at another 4 or 5 year "retooling period"... As I've noted before, a core of Melvin, Young, J.Crock, and BG JR intrigues me. However, the lack of development has proven disheartening and makes me skeptical he can pull it off.
Fingers crossed that some of the adjustment OP has demonstrated carry over into the off-season, and that the incoming guys provide an instant impact.
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Posted: 2/10/2013 9:05 PM
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Bubba I just don't see those guys being impact players next season. There are not a lot of minutes in the back court and I believe it will take them 2-3 seasons to be impact guys. I think the 2 guards you listed can have great careers I just don't see instant impact
Plus I just don't see them getting a ton of minutes over the guys ahead of them. Sure I think they will be worked in but if either play more that 15 mpg, I'd be shocked
i also kinda find it funny that prior to the season everyone was year 3, this is the year we make the NIT blah blah blah and now it is all year 4, next year is the year. what will we say next year?
Last edited 2/10/2013 9:27 PM by mrap24
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Posted: 2/10/2013 9:16 PM
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I guess you are forgetting other teams in the Big East not only improving but also upgrading their rosters as well.
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Posted: 2/10/2013 9:44 PM
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Not only rosters mush but assistant coaches and maybe head coaches.
Priority one. Get a dam assistant who can teach defense. That's his only job. Pay him whatever you need to get him here.
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Posted: 2/10/2013 11:20 PM
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Our team isn't going to be drastically different next year. Yes, we're going to have 3 or 4 new players, but in terms of playing time and rotation, it's going to be pretty similar to this year's team, which is going to win, at most, 3 conference games.
As mrap said, the backcourt is going to be crowded. Young, McKinney, McDonald, Curington, and Garrett. You figure Garrett will get the majority of the minutes Clahar will be leaving behind. Someone is going to be the odd man out; I don't see it being McKinney, a Junior, so either McDonald or Curington is going to be buried on the bench. Best case scenario is Curington arrives on campus better than both McKinney and McDonald; we know what we have in McKinney, so for us to be markedly improved, we need Curington to be better than that.
Assuming Morgan is back, he and Crockett will get almost all of the wing minutes, with Marrero maybe stealing 5 minutes a game.
Where it gets interesting is the frontcourt. People seem to have high hopes for Sequele, but here's my question: can you play him with Melvin? I've seen Sequele listed at both 6'7'' and 6'8.'' I've never seen him play, but he seems like more of a 4 than a 5, which makes me wonder if he'll even be competing with Kirk/Robertson for minutes, or whether he'll primarily back up Melvin and maybe get some minutes at the 4 if we shift Melvin to the 3 and go with a three big line up at times.
I really want to believe this team can make a leap next season, but unfortunately, it seems to me like we're going to be counting on a lot of the same guys who've done nothing the past three years to inspire any sort of optimism.
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Posted: 2/10/2013 11:21 PM
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I agree with your Bubba. I think next year is a MUST year as BY and CM will be seniors and will not be here the following year. My biggest concern is when you said "Purnell is not a bad basketball coach. Great? Hell no. But will a group of solid players he can coach them up and win games." Up to this point OP has not shown an ability to coach up anybody. In fact I have seen some players regress under his reign. As a technical, teaching basketball coach he has been very a bad basketball coach as our motivation and fundamentals are just miserable. Hopefully this will change and soon.  |
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Posted: 2/11/2013 1:13 AM
Re: In My Opinion The OP Era Will Come Down To 3-4 Players.....
don't forget that the 2013 class might not be done yet. I can see DePaul adding one, even two more players.
From the fact that DePaul is already 2 over the limit, there's going to be some housecleaning. And the way I see it, everyone is fair game, even BY and CM. Some people might think, lets get rid of the players who aren't playing, but that's not necessarily the case. For example, OP could easily tell BY and CM to go pro, we're going to go in a different direction from here on out. Or Kirk might be let go because his 4 years are up. Anyhow, the hope is that RJC and BG Jr. and GS all get significant playing time next year, because we already know what we have this year.
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Posted: 2/11/2013 7:24 AM
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What happened with Mcdonald? He seemed to be progressing nicely and as a Freshman I thought he was solid. Now he hardly ever even plays....is he in the doghouse?
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Posted: 2/11/2013 9:23 AM
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Let's get real here. If BG and Curington can't get minutes ahead of JC, McK, MM, and Durell McD, we're headed down the same path to extinction. Unfortunately, one or both of them need to become 30 minute per game guys who are emerging stars. We know what we have now on the roster. Not much. We need to get lucky with a CM type freshman year from them. We'd still probably be better off with a new coach focused on maximizing players' abilities, but we are where we are.
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Posted: 2/11/2013 9:29 AM
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Yes, all this "there's no minutes to go around" stuff is nuts. The new guys coming in have nothing to do with this team that may lose 15-17 BE games. There will be open competition and I would bet on it. OP will play his best 7-8 guys no matter who they are or how long they have been here. And Prof BY is our starting PG until he decides to leave or graduates.
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Posted: 2/11/2013 9:33 AM
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I think Ktrem11 has pretty much nailed the expectation for next year. I hate to be pessimistic but what I have seen over the course of the past 20 Years sans a few competitive seasons is take my expectation of DePaul Basketball knock it down several degrees and then subtract 50 from that to get a more realistic expectation.
Last edited 2/11/2013 9:37 AM by ChiTownBaller
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Posted: 2/11/2013 9:34 AM
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I think the key here still is to find ONE reliable big man that can play solid defense and rebound. As bad as Obekpa is on offense, We sure could use his ability to alter shots.
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