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Posted: 1/28/2013 12:55 PM
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I have been quite and very willing to give JLP a chance to turn this around. At some point she needs to take responsibility for the poor hiring decisions that have taken place. She needs to go and changes need to happen without question. A leadership change needs to occur period. DePaul likes to hire their own and with that said, I would reach out to a Stephen Howard, Mark Aguirre or someone that has basketball knowledge and can develop a path for success period. Im not willing to hire someone that is looking to take this position as a stepping stone for a better opportunity. We need someone with basketball knowledge and that is willing to invest in this program to turn it around. The time has come. Let the new AD decide OP's fate, I'm not willing to leave this in JLP hands anymore. If the powers want to keep JLP in some role then she could oversee the womens programs as Director of Womens athletics. She would report to the new AD. We need new leadership!!!  |
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Posted: 1/28/2013 6:37 PM
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Your ideal has some merit. Mark or Howard wouldn't be bad chose. they both have pro experince and know the game. Director of Men Athletics should be created today.
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Posted: 1/28/2013 7:21 PM
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I am afraid that the powers that be at DePaul won't let JLP go as long as she wants that position. Why would they have given her an extention? An extension is given out so your program 1) has stability 2) you like the direction your going 3) you don't get in a bidding war with another university(not that this would happen)...all the more reason an extension is both puzzling and frightening......They apparently like what she is doing.....What a shame.
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Posted: 1/28/2013 7:30 PM
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In all due respect, do we really need another thread about this? What's the point? She's not going anywhere. Father H and the board of trustees have spoken LOUD AND CLEAR!!! If you don't like the job she's doing, fine. Very much your right. But to keep beating this topic over and over is useless and am sure I speak for MANY that are sick of coming to the board and reading rants/posts/threads about our AD who isn't getting fired or going anywhere for years to come. Not defending, not trying to censor or tell people what they can or can't post. Just saying it gets old reading about day after day. It accomplishes nothing. And for the record, am way more pissed about the job OP is doing. Many believe that he was a good hire. She did something that MANY OF YOU said she wouldn't. Spend big $$ and hire a coach from a HM program. She did both. PEROID. This is about OP. IMO my brothers
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Posted: 1/28/2013 7:34 PM
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Mistake #1 : she should have hired Lavin.
Mistake #2 : see #1
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Posted: 1/28/2013 8:20 PM
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mush, I'm completely willing to admit that, after giving OP a chance to see what he could do here at DePaul, Lavin would have been a better choice...Although I would prefer many other options over Lavin at this point in time (mainly because I think that Lavin is a below avg coach but above avg recruiter), my change of position is more of an indictment of my disappointment with OP than any confidence in Lavin...IMO, next year s/b OP's Last Stand because I've seen enough to convince me that OP won't turn it around here and we need to move on...bottom line, in retrospect, Lavin would have been a better choice but for sure not the best choice
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Posted: 1/28/2013 8:50 PM
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With all due respect, JLP and OP are the only topics of the day. Heck, the post Pitt thread had 7 comments and Billy was two of them! God bless the remaining core because this head in the sand (by leadership) sh@t has to end. Even the "core" blue drinkers are saying "What f is going on?" I would love to be positive....but about what? Tell me something that doesnt make us laugh. That we will beat ND and you can book it? The story has been told and now it's just painful to read these threads.
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Posted: 1/28/2013 8:50 PM
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Bubba, what does she know about college basketball? This is the driver to funding our athletic department and bring positive publicity to our school. We need someone in here that knows college basketball, steer the program in the right direction, ask the right questions, previously connected to DePaul and driven to succeed.
As Alumni, if we do not put pressure, ask the hard questions and speak with our wallets nothing will change. I was a season ticket holder for 10 years and this year I did not renew.
How many chances is she supposed to be given? Do we have any mens teams that have done well over a 5 year period, the answer is no. JLP is good at overseeing womens athletics period and nothing more! People like her, fine, she can be the Director of Womens Athletics.
I know there are many of us that would like to see her go. There is no reason why our program can't be like Marquette's.
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Posted: 1/28/2013 9:08 PM
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Bubba, are you related to the devil in the blue dress? The lady is beyond clueless. She has single handily destroyed a once proud program. What a joke????....other then some homers on this site, no one thought that this stroke (OP) was a good hire. Quit defanding her! I can't wait till next year. Allstate will be a ghost town.
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Posted: 1/28/2013 9:15 PM
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If she really wants what best for DePaul she should resign. JLP has to know that she can no longer do the job that is required as an AD. Time to step down
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Posted: 1/28/2013 9:39 PM
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For the record, the only time during that post that defended her was about the Purnell hire. I didn't say OP was a great hire at the time. But to say everybody but a few homers liked the hire is flat wrong and to be honest totally misleading. Many in the media and around the college basketball world thought it was a solid hire. Not great, but solid. She put up big $$ and let him run the show. So far he's failing. Right now this second that's the story.
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Posted: 1/28/2013 9:48 PM
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Mush OP is doing a lousy job. I am extremely dissapointed in what he has done, but one thing we do not need is Steve Lavin and Gene Keady. Unless Steve Lavin has learned something since he got canned at UCLA he will blow up at St. John just like he did at UCLA.
If OP does not get it together we need to look in another direction after the season is over. Some one that will invest in this program, that can coach and develope players and not use it as a stepping stone for something better.
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Posted: 1/28/2013 10:08 PM
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DBallfan wrote: If she really wants what best for DePaul she should resign. JLP has to know that she can no longer do the job that is required as an AD. Time to step down People need to put more heat on Ft. Holtschneider. JLP isn't perfect but it takes more than an AD to create a long term train wreck. |
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Posted: 1/29/2013 8:35 AM
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Mush OP is doing a lousy job. I am extremely dissapointed in what he has done, but one thing we do not need is Steve Lavin and Gene Keady. Unless Steve Lavin has learned something since he got canned at UCLA he will blow up at St. John just like he did at UCLA.
If OP does not get it together we need to look in another direction after the season is over. Some one that will invest in this program, that can coach and develope players and not use it as a stepping stone for something better.
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IF at some point we make a change we have to go young, hungry and a guy with some personality and a little swag. Don't worry about him leaving in 4/5 years, make the hire. Don't shoot for the stars. Go hire a young coach from a MM program and let's roll. You won't have to spend huge $$ to get him either. Again I just wish OP would get this turned around, but at the point he's making it very hard even for a homer like me.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 8:45 AM
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bubba you are exactly right, and that is where the critcal error was made 3 years ago. we were basically starting over so at that point, it really cant get much worse, so take a flier on a young up and comer. someone with a ton of energy who is dyanmic and all that. I understand what JLP was trying to do, but that is where the major mistake was made BIGBUBBATHEBLUEDEMON wrote:
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--- DANDYEDWARD wrote:
Mush OP is doing a lousy job. I am extremely dissapointed in what he has done, but one thing we do not need is Steve Lavin and Gene Keady. Unless Steve Lavin has learned something since he got canned at UCLA he will blow up at St. John just like he did at UCLA.
If OP does not get it together we need to look in another direction after the season is over. Some one that will invest in this program, that can coach and develope players and not use it as a stepping stone for something better.
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IF at some point we make a change we have to go young, hungry and a guy with some personality and a little swag. Don't worry about him leaving in 4/5 years, make the hire. Don't shoot for the stars. Go hire a young coach from a MM program and let's roll. You won't have to spend huge $$ to get him either. Again I just wish OP would get this turned around, but at the point he's making it very hard even for a homer like me. |
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Posted: 1/29/2013 9:24 AM
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+1
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Posted: 1/29/2013 10:05 AM
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The problem with schools like DePaul and Marquette is that good coaches do not stay. The days of Loyal Ray Meyer and Al McGuire are long gone. Coach Leitao left DePaul for greener pastures as did Tom Crean. The Administration dictates what type of coach the AD will be hire. DePaul is an outstanding University. Great MBA program, Law school.... The administration concentrates on what they believe is important. The only difference between Marquette and DePaul is that the former Marquette President Father Wild had a priority of returning the basketball program to its old status. The new Marquette President does not share that priority. Each of the two programs have gone up and down like the real estate markets. As did UCLA, Indiana and numerous others. I cannot predict the two programs future but one would think if your going to build a new stadium your plan has to be to fill it. |
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Posted: 1/29/2013 10:59 AM
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DePaul is too f'n politically correct. They won't fire JLP because she is a woman and she supposedly does "good" things for the other sports. Yes, I said it!! Obviously this woman is a complete and utter train wreck when it comes to handling the men's program. There is NO argument here. She sucks and is completely clueless. In other words...INCOMPETENT!!! Any other business and she would have packed her bags a long time ago. But DPU is beholden to the PC ideals that it espouses, so they are caught in their own PC web here.....and WE the men's b-ball fans are paying the price.
I seriously don't get this. I mean for the love of God, what does she have to do to PROVE to the powers that be that she is incompetent??? One would think that steering the ship of a once proud program straight into hell would be enough....but obviously not at good ol' DePaul.
You can rip on me for my "PC take", but honestly, this whole situation is so unreal that I have no other LOGICAL way of interpreting it.
Remember reading how back in the day, when the circumstances called for it, the King would fall on his sword? I really, really wish the Queen follow the king's lead in our case! Please hit the bricks JLP!
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Posted: 1/29/2013 12:39 PM
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munation wrote: The problem with schools like DePaul and Marquette is that good coaches do not stay. The days of Loyal Ray Meyer and Al McGuire are long gone. Coach Leitao left DePaul for greener pastures as did Tom Crean. The Administration dictates what type of coach the AD will be hire. DePaul is an outstanding University. Great MBA program, Law school.... The administration concentrates on what they believe is important. The only difference between Marquette and DePaul is that the former Marquette President Father Wild had a priority of returning the basketball program to its old status. The new Marquette President does not share that priority. Each of the two programs have gone up and down like the real estate markets. As did UCLA, Indiana and numerous others. I cannot predict the two programs future but one would think if your going to build a new stadium your plan has to be to fill it. agree with your comments! That is why an AD change need to be made with someone that has connections to DePaul like Stephen Howard or Mark Aguirre. Someone that knows basketball period. These guys will stay around while coaches may come and go. This is why a foundation at the AD level is necessary. Money talks and the season ticket holder base has dropped without question. My guess is it will go down further next year too. The Father will not be happy to see this continue to erode. |
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Posted: 1/29/2013 12:50 PM
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lol, and what experience and qualifications do Howard or Aguirre have to be an AD. Look, I agree the Jeanne has not helped the Mens program a whole lot here, and wouldn't flinch if she was fired. I am neither a fan or a hater, I guess; but let's be realistic too. Those guys are not qualified to be AD's. That is like saying the Bears should have hired Tom Thayer as Coach.... he is an ex-Bear, he loves the Bears.. So what? I want DePaul to win too, and promise not to leave - should I be the AD? Never mind the fact that Aguirre is one of Jeanne's closest friends, and that Howard respects the hell out of her. If you want to argue she should be fired that is fine, but let's at least replace her with a professional that has done the job before and knows the role.
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