Kevin McNamara brings up a interesting point here.  With one more defection, the Catholic schools would hold a 2/3 majority in the Big East and could move to dissolve. That would give the Catholic schools the upper hand. 

The one thing that could keep it together is the TV revenue, but the Big East might not be moving quick enough on that TV contract. 

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Here is more, Big East schools await next shift...  

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Big East name will not dissolve these schools loves the exit fees that they are receiving.  Non of the basketball schools will leave.

Does't it matter ?

DePaul moving to the Big East was short sighted and a disaster.

Ready for this to wrap up and for DePaul to get settled. The big east experience has been a nightmare and done nothing and I repeat nothing for us. I really hope we break off with the catholic schools and add some A10 programs. I wanna move on from this. I wanna compete.

But, we should all want, and demand, to compete at the highest level, not concede to being middle of the pack in a MM conference.

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But, we should all want, and demand, to compete at the highest level, not concede to being middle of the pack in a MM conference.

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The conference doesn't make our program. The BE is pretty very close to being a MM conf anyway. We were fine in the CUSA and were fine the decades before that. F the big east. I'm ready to move on.

I agree Bubba. Let's get the hell out of there.

One thing for certain it hasn't attracted top level recruits coming here.

"One thing for certain it hasn't attracted top level recruits coming here."

Either has this coaching staff.

It worked for Marquette.

DePaul really messed this up from the start.

Will they make a similar mistake again with the new arena ? IMO they need to time it so they have a new HC before playing in a new arena. You can't have any of the current staff around when you make the next major change. You will kill the the buzz.

Based on this article the basketball schools have the leverage until July and should take full advantage. Hope the basketball leadership has a plan that will secure its future. I'm thinking we have one shot at this and hope St. Johns and Georgetown agree. Maybe a Gonzaga, Creighton, plus the A10 schools mentioned before with the bigeast bball only schools would get us back on track. Not looking to see UCF play basketball.
Happy Thanksgiving

the big east hasnt helped because of the coaching we had.

If we were to build an all basketball league, it will be tough to get Gonzaga.  It makes sense for basketball but for every other sport that would be a lot of travel, losing money.

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BIGBUBBATHEBLUEDEMON wrote:

- The BE is pretty very close to being a MM conf anyway. We were fine in the CUSA and were fine the decades before that. F the big east. I'm ready to move on.

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Dave what are you hanging on too? The BE conference is about dead. It's time to move on and get in a conf that we can compete in and more important have security. I mean why would anybody be upset by this? It's not like we have been in the BE for 30 years. I mean it's been 7. It's been a nightmare. The catholic programs need to move now. We are no longer in a HM conference anyway. Everybody is jumping ship.

BIGBUBBATHEBLUEDEMON wrote:

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--- DemonDave wrote:

BIGBUBBATHEBLUEDEMON wrote:

- The BE is pretty very close to being a MM conf anyway. We were fine in the CUSA and were fine the decades before that. F the big east. I'm ready to move on.

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Dave what are you hanging on too? The BE conference is about dead. It's time to move on and get in a conf that we can compete in and more important have security. I mean why would anybody be upset by this? It's not like we have been in the BE for 30 years. I mean it's been 7. It's been a nightmare. The catholic programs need to move now. We are no longer in a HM conference anyway. Everybody is jumping ship.

No... cant believe you finally got there.  You have been defending the BE for quite a while now, was surprised to see the change of opinion.

I agree 100%.

I think the BB only schools would have a problem in that not all of the schools have a full slate of athletic programs to compete in as a league.  Many have a Baseball team, but we don't, as an example.  And, that may hurt others in the NCAA playoff scheme.  I'd force all member schools to comply to a minimum athletic slate to be a member.  DePaul would be forced to make a commitment to Baseball, Track and Field (indoor and ourdoor), Swimming and maybe others.

Remember, FB is the only sport without a playoff at year end.  All of the other sports do.

I'd keep the name as it a viable brand, and rewrite the league charter as a BB only conf.  Schools with D2 or lower football programs would be welcome, but not at the D1 level.

You know I can be hard headed LOL! Yes I've totally came around brother.
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--- DemonDave wrote:

BIGBUBBATHEBLUEDEMON wrote:

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--- DemonDave wrote:

BIGBUBBATHEBLUEDEMON wrote:

- The BE is pretty very close to being a MM conf anyway. We were fine in the CUSA and were fine the decades before that. F the big east. I'm ready to move on.

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Dave what are you hanging on too? The BE conference is about dead. It's time to move on and get in a conf that we can compete in and more important have security. I mean why would anybody be upset by this? It's not like we have been in the BE for 30 years. I mean it's been 7. It's been a nightmare. The catholic programs need to move now. We are no longer in a HM conference anyway. Everybody is jumping ship.

No... cant believe you finally got there.  You have been defending the BE for quite a while now, was surprised to see the change of opinion.

I agree 100%.

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There should be no doubt at this point that the Big East will be considered a mid-major football league at best going forward.  West Virginia is already gone and Syracuse, Pitt, and Rutgers are on the way out.  UConn is a likely candidate to replace Maryland in the ACC and Louisville's administration is actively seeking a new conference for their sports programs.  It is likely that any Big East school with a football program will jump to one of the "power five" conferences for more stability and more revenue as soon as they are invited.  And ESPN is reporting that Boise State and San Diego State are reconsidering their planned move to the Big East and might go back to the Mountaun West.  Replacing them with more schools from CUSA or the MAC will only lower the perception of the Big East more and more.

The seven non-football schools need to be proactive now and should approach other schools with top basketball programs to form a new conference that will prioritize basketball.  The basketball schools should not wait to be dragged down further by large state universities trying to upgrade their football programs at the expense of everything else.

A two division structure featuring an Eastern Division with Villanova, St Johns, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Providence, Richmond, and Duquesne, and a Western Division with DePaul, Marquette, Xavier, Dayton, Butler, St Louis, and Creighton would be much better.  These are all private, urban universities with rich basketball traditions, similar academic goals, located in good media markets.  Each school would play their division rivals twice and the other division teams once each year for a total of 19 conference games.

It would be so much better to play these natural rivals rather than to travel farther distances to play teams like Houston, SMU, Central Florida, etc., just because they have a football program willing to be part of the Big East.  A basketball-oriented league like this would still be among the very best conferences in the country and would warrant several bids to the NCAA tournament each year.

+1

It's ironic because this administration made an egregious, short-sided and money chasing decision 30 years ago when they moved 30 miles away from campus and when they made the correct decision to move to the Big East (not DePaul's fault that it is now crumbling) they effed up by not spending the requisite $$$ to "keep up with the jones" ie Marquettes and trying to mom and pop in a big boys league