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The Bathroom Bill

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Posted: 02/20/2013 8:37 PM

The Bathroom Bill 


February 20, 2012  


ACTION ALERT:
 

Say No! to the Bathroom Bill 

 
SUMMARY:

There is an urgent problem in Phoenix, and Center for Arizona Policy needs your help!

The City of Phoenix is considering passing a law, which would allow "transgendered" men to use the women's restroom in public accommodations like restaurants, schools, and churches - the same restroom that your child uses.

Under the guise of "prohibiting discrimination" against people on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, and gender expression, this law is riddled with devastating legal and ethical consequences for all in Phoenix. Known as the Bathroom Bill, this proposed law is a poorly crafted solution that presents serious problems for every church, pastor, parent, and small business owner within the city of Phoenix.

Furthermore, if the business or church asks the man to leave, the business or church faces both civil and criminal prosecution for "discrimination".

This is just one of the many severe problems with the Bathroom Bill. If this proposal becomes law, parents, churches, and businesses all lose: 

  • Parents: Along with the very serious problem mentioned above, there are no protections in this law to prohibit a predator from posing as a so-called "transgender" to gain access to a child through a restroom or locker room.
  • Business Owners: Every business in or that works with the city of Phoenix would face the threat of frivolous lawsuits - regardless of their views on homosexuality and gender. The Bathroom Bill says even the implication that a business may be "unwelcoming" or "unaccepting" to a homosexual or transgender can trigger a criminal investigation from the city, and a costly lawsuit that can drag on for years.
  • Churches: Churches are not exempt from being forced to allow transgenders in whatever restroom they choose. Furthermore, the weak exemption in this law could force a church or a parachurch organization, like a Christian school to hire homosexuals and transgenders regardless of the church's religious beliefs.  


All of these examples listed above are still only a portion of the problems this law creates. 

 

What's worse, Mayor Greg Stanton has rushed this law through the process - the final vote is a week from today!

Councilmen Sal DiCiccio and Jim Waring have committed to stand for your families, business, and religious freedom by opposing the Bathroom Bill. Read Councilman DiCicco's comments on the law here.

Yet the other councilmen need to hear from you to say No! to the Bathroom Bill.

 

ACTION NEEDED: 4 Steps Needed  


1) Contact these members of the Phoenix City Council, asking them to vote No on this harmful ordinance:
 

  • Thelda Williams: council.district.1@phoenix.gov, 602-262-7444
  • Vice Mayor Bill Gates: council.district.3@phoenix.gov, 602-262-7441
  • Daniel Valenzuela: council.district.5@phoenix.gov, 602-262-7446
  • Michael Nowakowski: council.district.7@phoenix.gov, 602-262-7492
  • Michael Johnson: council.district.8@phoenix.gov, 602-262-7493 

You can use these resources and talking points when crafting your email or making your call: 

  • Bad for Business - how the Bathroom Bill will negatively impact every Phoenix Business - regardless of their views on the issue
  • Churches at Risk - The Bathroom Bill will put churches in the position of following their faith, or breaking the law. 

Talking Points

  • Churches should not be forced to hire people who disagree with their religious beliefs. Yet under this law, city government will force Phoenix's religious institutions to either compromise their beliefs, or face criminal prosecution.  
  • The Bathroom Bill creates a "sue first and ask questions later" mentality.
  • No matter your views on homosexuality, under the Bathroom Bill you will face the threat of frivolous lawsuits.
  • It is irresponsible for the City Council to put every child, business owner, church, and religious organization at risk because of a political agenda from a vocal minority.
  • Despite Mayor Stanton's campaign commitment to transparency, the Bathroom Bill has been rushed through city government in order to hide the true atrocities buried in this law.  
2) Forward this email to your friends and family. Because of how Mayor Stanton is pushing this ordinance to a vote next week, there is little time to spread the word about the dangers of the Bathroom Bill. We need your help to notify every business, church and parent.

3) Follow Center for Arizona Policy on Facebook. With the vote only a week away, things will move very quickly over the next few days. We will keep you up-to-date through our Facebook page on all the latest developments.

4) Pray for the defeat of this measure so that the rights of persons of faith and rights of private business owners will be preserved in Phoenix.
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Posted: 02/20/2013 10:47 PM

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oyy vey--the Center for Arizona Policy is an astroturf group of about 1000 Arizona Christian fundamentalist churches, it is stridently anti-gay. 

This is the same group behind AZ Prop 107 (from 2006). It proposed a gay marriage ban, thankfully it was narrowly defeated.  In 2008 the group got  a very similar Prop 102 on the ballot which passed by a wide margin.


It has a huge amount influence amongst republicans in the legislature, and our alcoholic governor.
Harriet Tubman: "I freed thousands of slaves, and could have freed thousands more, if they had known they were slaves." (c. 1901)

Last edited 02/20/2013 10:55 PM by baalforhire

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Posted: 02/21/2013 7:33 AM

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I wonder if ole buttforhire here is familiar with the terms libel and slander. He sure is familer with the term hypocritical bigot as he sure lives the life.
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Nice slur at the Guv coward. So now that we have  established ad nauseum that you like to throw out baseless charecter assassination as a form of slurring those you politically disagree with for no reason and no provication whatsoever at all I wonder if I could continually link you to pedophilia like you link the Guv to alcoholism?!!!!!

Our own creepy uncle baal who like to slip digits into kids thats what I could say if I were as sick and hatefull as you.

Works for me if it works for you !!

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 Particularlly given the standard or precident you seem intent on setting.

Or you could stop with the usage of alinsky's played ,childish tactics and actually engage the topic and argue or debate like a man. An adult man. One who engages the ideas and not the author.

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Last edited 02/21/2013 12:52 PM by SexualTyrannosaurus

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Posted: 02/21/2013 9:38 AM

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They dont need to use the ladies room, All that would do is cause issues and lawsuits. Just use the stall in the mens room instead of A urinal. But that group is pretty religous overzealous.


Bear Down on this!!!  41-34 and 58-21 'nuff said
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Posted: 02/21/2013 9:59 AM

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Before she became governor--Jan Brewer was often referred by the nickname of Otis--after the fictional town drunk on the Andy Griffith show.


Brewer is well-known around the Arizona capitol as a lush, often
drinking three-martini lunches, taking afternoon nips out of a bottle
hidden in her desk, can't make evening appointments because she's
hammered after 1700.

http://www.examiner.com/ congressional-oversight-in- phoenix/did-tipsy-arizona- governor-wag-finger- presidents-face
Harriet Tubman: "I freed thousands of slaves, and could have freed thousands more, if they had known they were slaves." (c. 1901)

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Posted: 02/21/2013 11:13 AM

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Anecdotal hearsay that you and others of your ilk use to marginalize her otj performance and present her in the most negative light possible.

Again how does that rise to the charge of "alcoholic" or "alcoholism" that you so freely bantied around?!?? Has she been diagnosed and treated for that disease and is it on record?!? My guess is she hasn't and those stories are advanced for no other purpose than to give human filth like you a reason to label in the cause of hate just to advance your bigoted and intolerant ideology.

Tell us again about "jeebus" and go self medicate yer hateful old fraud self. Your better that way.


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Posted: 02/21/2013 12:12 PM

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It's way beyond anecdotal-- at this point.

And what is it with this "child molester slur", if the the mods here were responsible you would be banned!
Harriet Tubman: "I freed thousands of slaves, and could have freed thousands more, if they had known they were slaves." (c. 1901)

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Posted: 02/21/2013 12:32 PM

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What a joke. When are we going to stop catering to nature's mistakes?
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Posted: 02/21/2013 12:38 PM

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--- baalforhire wrote:

It's way beyond anecdotal-- at this point.

And what is it with this "child molester slur", if the the mods here were responsible you would be banned!

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What slur baal? Name it ! I merly have stated that "if" i were to engage in your type of scurolous behavior I could if I wanted to attach to you pedophila and gave an example.

But more to the point..why would I be banned for engaging(which I havent) in the very behavior you wish to have license to freely engage in and demand we accept carte blanche?!?? IE: slander and unsubstantiated rumor mongering. See Baal libs like you can't stand being the focal point of the very same sleaze ball tactics you demand the rest of us just roll over and accept! And that is my point in addressing you in the manner I have. Your just butt hurt and pissy Im playing your game better than you. You insist on being able to ruin peoples reputaions and names at your leisure particularly without consequence simply in the petty furtherance of your prefered idiology. It's sick. Your sick.

And you still have not brought evidence to substantiate your slur of "alcoholic". Either present evidence that shows Jan Brewer as such ( arrest records, medical records ot discharge papers, photos) or yourself be subject to a ban you wish to impose on me. I'm long past tired having to accept, endure or tolerate your religious bigotry and hate speech. Your continual attacks on the Bible and Jesus should have had you banned eons ago. You are a vile, slandering intolerant bigot.

So in short prove what you claim or be banned. Real simple tool.


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Posted: 02/21/2013 1:07 PM

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only a retard can't see the difference between a public figure (Brewer) and a slur on another member of this board.

If you google "Jan Brewer is a drunk" 350,000 hits are returned.

Google "jan brewer drunk driving accidents" 275,000 hits are returned.

Apparently she had legislative immunity for one incident in 1988.
Harriet Tubman: "I freed thousands of slaves, and could have freed thousands more, if they had known they were slaves." (c. 1901)

Last edited 02/21/2013 1:12 PM by baalforhire

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Posted: 02/21/2013 1:16 PM

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Oh so calling me a "retard" ( a hate speech bigoted term in on itself)without first hand knowledge as to wether or not I meet mental retardation standards should be tolerated ?!?

Can't spell hypocrite with out B-A-A-L now can you?!


So you slur the Guv and now me. And baal it does not matter wether she is public figure, you dont have the right to publicaly slur her. I want you banned. Either prove your charge of "retardation" and "alcholism" or go.
baalforhire wrote: only a retard can't see the difference between a public figure (Brewer) and a slur on another member of this board.

If you google "Jan Brewer is a drunk" 350,000 hits are returned.

Google "jan brewer drunk driving accidents" 275,000 hits are returned.

Apparently she had legislative immunity for one incident in 1988.


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Posted: 02/21/2013 1:31 PM

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baalforhire wrote: only a retard can't see the difference between a public figure (Brewer) and a slur on another member of this board.

If you google "Jan Brewer is a drunk" 350,000 hits are returned.

Google "jan brewer drunk driving accidents" 275,000 hits are returned.

Apparently she had legislative immunity for one incident in 1988.
I didn't know slander only applies to public figures?

Like I said in the other thread.  Cherry Pick...it's all you do.

You support trannies in Church bathrooms, but you and the trannies would never entertain the idea that Jesus was who he said.  Why do you care, other than hatred?  Why would you ever argue to be a a part or have any "right" of men dressed up as women go into the little girls bathroom at a church.

Do you see how Flipping sick you are? disbelief
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Posted: 02/21/2013 2:04 PM

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ASUbigfans wrote:
baalforhire wrote: only a retard can't see the difference between a public figure (Brewer) and a slur on another member of this board.

If you google "Jan Brewer is a drunk" 350,000 hits are returned.

Google "jan brewer drunk driving accidents" 275,000 hits are returned.

Apparently she had legislative immunity for one incident in 1988.
I didn't know slander only applies to public figures?

Like I said in the other thread.  Cherry Pick...it's all you do.

You support trannies in Church bathrooms, but you and the trannies would never entertain the idea that Jesus was who he said.  Why do you care, other than hatred?  Why would you ever argue to be a a part or have any "right" of men dressed up as women go into the little girls bathroom at a church.

Do you see how Flipping sick you are? disbelief

The truly sad part Bigs is that he can't or wont see how sick he truly is or does not view his brand of hate and hate speech as anything but acceptable and "normal" speech as that hate filled end justifies the intolerant means to which he is married to. He is the prime example of the laugh out loud hypocrisy of the intolerance of the "tolerant" left in this country.

He wallows in slurs and religious bigotry. And is proud of it. The only accepted forms of bigotry and hate left( white and Christian) that the American left feel is warrented and fair game.

Truly sick.


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Posted: 02/21/2013 2:07 PM

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Forget churches why the hell do they need to use any womens public restroom? Whats wrong with the stall in the mensroom? Too many problems with them using womens rooms its lawsuits waiting to happen. Just use the mens room


Bear Down on this!!!  41-34 and 58-21 'nuff said
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Posted: 02/21/2013 2:12 PM

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spayNnueterallCATS wrote: Forget churches why the hell do they need to use any womens public restroom? Whats wrong with the stall in the mensroom? Too many problems with them using womens rooms its lawsuits waiting to happen. Just use the mens room

It sounds like in their minds eye Spay(TG, TS etc) it is a moral/value judgement on their lifestyle and discriminatory if you can belive it hence garbage legislation like this to force the particular needs of their lifestyles on the majority and in a round about way normalization.

It's so bassakward and wrong I don't know where to begin. And your right the lawsuits on both sides will be mind bending and just plain wasteful for everybody.


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Posted: 02/21/2013 3:48 PM

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This is as bad as people suing McDonalds for hot coffee.


Bear Down on this!!!  41-34 and 58-21 'nuff said
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Posted: 02/21/2013 7:03 PM

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Time to "out" myself, fellas. I was played, and rather well played! biggrin

So who's the Devil posing as 520Rat? BigFans? SexyT? I thought I smelled something funny with that guy. Come on, fess up!

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s...&t=11308419

Go ahead, this may be your only opportunity to bash my politics!!! (at least directly)

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Posted: 02/21/2013 7:27 PM

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I am not 520 "D", and I have waaay to much respect for you as a Devil and fellow longtime DD poster to bash your views regardless of wether I agree or disagree with them.

You have shown me nothing but civility and respect. At the very least I owe you that in kind.


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Posted: 02/21/2013 8:19 PM

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That very kind of you, ST. Maybe "bash" is too hard a word of mine. We can certainly disagree on politics, of all things, and we're lucky to have the opportunity to express ourselves thusly.

If you're comfortable indulging on a limited basis, I find it slightly amusing, to your shagrin of course, how the COP has become a "bastion" of liberalism. biggrin I thought only Tucson carried that title. Things have certainly changed since the last time I lived in the Valley!

For what it's worth, I sincerely hope that the amended code, if passed, won't have the kind of negative effect you may fear. It may not help much in this regard, but I'm pretty sure indecent exposure and more aggresive laws of that nature are still on the books, both at the State and City level.

Good luck, my friend. biggrin



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Posted: 02/21/2013 8:26 PM

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Not a problem "D"!!!

I'll try mañana to give you my thoughts on the whole matter. I can't do it now as the wife is giving me the "eye" about shutting "my damn phone off and getting some sleep!!".....lol!!!

Good night my friend!!


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