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Posted: 06/28/2014 2:30 PM

P12 Over/Under for Wins 


How I see it shaping up...P12 south is going to be extremely tight this year ASU, UCLA and USC are very close and will likely all be in the thick of the P12 south race into the latter stages of the regular season. I give UCLA the slight edge overall and I think its fair to give USC a slight edge on ASU as they host the Devils in LA. If the Sun Devil Defense can rise up above the lowly pre-season expectations the Devils may very well be playing in their second straight P12 title game. I think defensively there are some good athletes coming in, the first 3 games will give them a chance to adjust to D1 football before the heavy hitters start lining up against them on Saturdays.

Over/Under Wins

P12 South:
ASU 8
UCLA 8
USC 9
UA 7
Utah 3
Colo 3

P12 North
Oregon 11
Stanford 9
UW  8
Ore St 7
Wazzu 4
Cal 4

Go Devils devil

Last edited 06/28/2014 2:36 PM by SDSundevil

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Posted: 06/28/2014 2:35 PM

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Are these PAC12 wins or overall wins?
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Posted: 06/28/2014 2:37 PM

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Overall....i.e. Ore 11, teams play 9 conf games wink
WestCoastDevil wrote: Are these PAC12 wins or overall wins?

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Posted: 06/28/2014 2:50 PM

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Indeed, not looking at any schedules, I'd Cal/UW look overrated and Wazzu/Utah/Colorado look underrated.
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Posted: 06/28/2014 5:05 PM

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Washington State returns too much to only have 3 wins.  They were 6-6 last year.   Colorado had 4 last year and should be a little better at least stay at 4-8


Bear Down on this!!!  41-34 and 58-21 'nuff said
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Posted: 06/29/2014 1:34 AM

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SDSundevil wrote: How I see it shaping up...P12 south is going to be extremely tight this year ASU, UCLA and USC are very close and will likely all be in the thick of the P12 south race into the latter stages of the regular season. I give UCLA the slight edge overall and I think its fair to give USC a slight edge on ASU as they host the Devils in LA. If the Sun Devil Defense can rise up above the lowly pre-season expectations the Devils may very well be playing in their second straight P12 title game. I think defensively there are some good athletes coming in, the first 3 games will give them a chance to adjust to D1 football before the heavy hitters start lining up against them on Saturdays.

Over/Under Wins

P12 South:
ASU 8
UCLA 8
USC 9
UA 7
Utah 3
Colo 3

P12 North
Oregon 11
Stanford 9
UW  8
Ore St 7
Wazzu 4
Cal 4

Go Devils devil
So, UCLA with the most experience coming back and with a more favorable schedule will win 2 less games than last year?   WSU won 6 games last year and return a 4th year starting QB and you have them winning 2 less than last year? Utah brings back a healthy QB also and you have them regressing.

As a matter of fact, this whole thing is kinda silly.  

Pac 12 south:

ASu will have 2 less wins
UCLA will have 2 less wins
USC will have 1 less win.. and they lost Kiffin!!
Arizona will have 1 less win
Utah will have 2 less wins
Colo will have 1 less win

Do you see the pattern?  Did we all lose our QBs and most of our defense?  Isn't Ariz the only team losing a QB?  But, somehow we will have 9 less wins this year from last?

Last edited 06/29/2014 1:42 AM by mikebro

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Posted: 06/29/2014 2:44 AM

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SDSundevil wrote: How I see it shaping up...P12 south is going to be extremely tight this year ASU, UCLA and USC are very close and will likely all be in the thick of the P12 south race into the latter stages of the regular season. I give UCLA the slight edge overall and I think its fair to give USC a slight edge on ASU as they host the Devils in LA. If the Sun Devil Defense can rise up above the lowly pre-season expectations the Devils may very well be playing in their second straight P12 title game. I think defensively there are some good athletes coming in, the first 3 games will give them a chance to adjust to D1 football before the heavy hitters start lining up against them on Saturdays.

Over/Under Wins

P12 South:
ASU 8
UCLA 12 (although I think they play 14 games)
USC 11 (They play Hawaii so they have an extra game)
UA 7
Utah 5
Colo 4

P12 North
Oregon 12 (Will have 14 games)
Stanford 10
UW  8.5
Ore St 7
Wazzu 5.5
Cal 3

Go Devils devil
Those are my guesses.
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Posted: 06/29/2014 6:02 AM

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mikebro wrote:
SDSundevil wrote: How I see it shaping up...P12 south is going to be extremely tight this year ASU, UCLA and USC are very close and will likely all be in the thick of the P12 south race into the latter stages of the regular season. I give UCLA the slight edge overall and I think its fair to give USC a slight edge on ASU as they host the Devils in LA. If the Sun Devil Defense can rise up above the lowly pre-season expectations the Devils may very well be playing in their second straight P12 title game. I think defensively there are some good athletes coming in, the first 3 games will give them a chance to adjust to D1 football before the heavy hitters start lining up against them on Saturdays.

Over/Under Wins

P12 South:
ASU 8
UCLA 8
USC 9
UA 7
Utah 3
Colo 3

P12 North
Oregon 11
Stanford 9
UW  8
Ore St 7
Wazzu 4
Cal 4

Go Devils devil
So, UCLA with the most experience coming back and with a more favorable schedule will win 2 less games than last year?   WSU won 6 games last year and return a 4th year starting QB and you have them winning 2 less than last year? Utah brings back a healthy QB also and you have them regressing.

As a matter of fact, this whole thing is kinda silly.  

Pac 12 south:

ASu will have 2 less wins
UCLA will have 2 less wins
USC will have 1 less win.. and they lost Kiffin!!
Arizona will have 1 less win
Utah will have 2 less wins
Colo will have 1 less win

Do you see the pattern?  Did we all lose our QBs and most of our defense?  Isn't Ariz the only team losing a QB?  But, somehow we will have 9 less wins this year from last?
He said he gives Ucla the edge to win the south. Is that not enough for you? Even if Ucla only won 8 games then that would be an accomplishment for your program. Your team could easily be 2-2 after the first 4 games.

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Posted: 06/29/2014 7:02 AM

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ExorcistDevil wrote:
mikebro wrote:
SDSundevil wrote: How I see it shaping up...P12 south is going to be extremely tight this year ASU, UCLA and USC are very close and will likely all be in the thick of the P12 south race into the latter stages of the regular season. I give UCLA the slight edge overall and I think its fair to give USC a slight edge on ASU as they host the Devils in LA. If the Sun Devil Defense can rise up above the lowly pre-season expectations the Devils may very well be playing in their second straight P12 title game. I think defensively there are some good athletes coming in, the first 3 games will give them a chance to adjust to D1 football before the heavy hitters start lining up against them on Saturdays.

Over/Under Wins

P12 South:
ASU 8
UCLA 8
USC 9
UA 7
Utah 3
Colo 3

P12 North
Oregon 11
Stanford 9
UW  8
Ore St 7
Wazzu 4
Cal 4

Go Devils devil
So, UCLA with the most experience coming back and with a more favorable schedule will win 2 less games than last year?   WSU won 6 games last year and return a 4th year starting QB and you have them winning 2 less than last year? Utah brings back a healthy QB also and you have them regressing.

As a matter of fact, this whole thing is kinda silly.  

Pac 12 south:

ASu will have 2 less wins
UCLA will have 2 less wins
USC will have 1 less win.. and they lost Kiffin!!
Arizona will have 1 less win
Utah will have 2 less wins
Colo will have 1 less win

Do you see the pattern?  Did we all lose our QBs and most of our defense?  Isn't Ariz the only team losing a QB?  But, somehow we will have 9 less wins this year from last?
He said he gives Ucla the edge to win the south. Is that not enough for you? Even if Ucla only won 8 games then that would be an accomplishment for your program. Your team could easily be 2-2 after the first 4 games.
Was my post all about UCLA?  The whole Pac 12 south improves next year, but the thread starter has everyone losing more games?  How does that work?

Oh really, if we win 8 games?  Did you take your stupid pill this morning?  you guys would be 3-4 before we would be 4 and 2.   It would be 2-5, but you guys play Weber St and New Mexico.

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Posted: 06/29/2014 8:32 AM

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ExorcistDevil wrote:
mikebro wrote:
SDSundevil wrote: How I see it shaping up...P12 south is going to be extremely tight this year ASU, UCLA and USC are very close and will likely all be in the thick of the P12 south race into the latter stages of the regular season. I give UCLA the slight edge overall and I think its fair to give USC a slight edge on ASU as they host the Devils in LA. If the Sun Devil Defense can rise up above the lowly pre-season expectations the Devils may very well be playing in their second straight P12 title game. I think defensively there are some good athletes coming in, the first 3 games will give them a chance to adjust to D1 football before the heavy hitters start lining up against them on Saturdays.

Over/Under Wins

P12 South:
ASU 8
UCLA 8
USC 9
UA 7
Utah 3
Colo 3

P12 North
Oregon 11
Stanford 9
UW  8
Ore St 7
Wazzu 4
Cal 4

Go Devils devil
So, UCLA with the most experience coming back and with a more favorable schedule will win 2 less games than last year?   WSU won 6 games last year and return a 4th year starting QB and you have them winning 2 less than last year? Utah brings back a healthy QB also and you have them regressing.

As a matter of fact, this whole thing is kinda silly.  

Pac 12 south:

ASu will have 2 less wins
UCLA will have 2 less wins
USC will have 1 less win.. and they lost Kiffin!!
Arizona will have 1 less win
Utah will have 2 less wins
Colo will have 1 less win

Do you see the pattern?  Did we all lose our QBs and most of our defense?  Isn't Ariz the only team losing a QB?  But, somehow we will have 9 less wins this year from last?
He said he gives Ucla the edge to win the south. Is that not enough for you? Even if Ucla only won 8 games then that would be an accomplishment for your program. Your team could easily be 2-2 after the first 4 games.
This was a classic question from a Bruin fan in the Pac-12 Blog mailbag

Hey Kev! Long time! Maybe it's just me, but do you feel like Kendricks hasn't gotten the attention he deserves over the years and is classified as underrated? Obviously, you guys of the Pac-12 blog are quick to notice how important of a player he is for UCLA, but why don't the ESPN "expert" analysts such as Herbstreit, Corso, Palmer, etc. give him much love?

My Lord have you ever seen a more entitled fan base?  Their QB has been made a Heisman front runner, they've been given a top 10 pre season rating, their Soph DT with half of a career sack has been named one of the best DT's in the nation, Miles Jack has basically been talked about as the best freshman in the country last year, and these guys are writing in complaining that only the conference writer talks about Kendricks and the national guys don't.  

All of this because they played in the Sun Bowl LOL.gif

Win something first. 

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Posted: 06/29/2014 8:57 AM

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This is an over/under, I do think nearly all these teams will finish within 1 game of the over under I chose. Usually there is a surprise team in the P12 who rises well above pre-season expectations. There are usually a couple of big upsets as well which throw things off. CU/Wazzu/Utah could go over but as the season progresses these teams have some tough games. I chose CAL to improve as they now have some experience at QB. The point of this thread was to have a little fun and squeeze some predictions out of everyone....Bruin fans seem ready to just roll through  Texas, ASU, Oregon, Stan, UW, USC. I think you prolly win 3 of these.

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Posted: 06/29/2014 9:33 AM

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mikebro wrote:
SDSundevil wrote: How I see it shaping up...P12 south is going to be extremely tight this year ASU, UCLA and USC are very close and will likely all be in the thick of the P12 south race into the latter stages of the regular season. I give UCLA the slight edge overall and I think its fair to give USC a slight edge on ASU as they host the Devils in LA. If the Sun Devil Defense can rise up above the lowly pre-season expectations the Devils may very well be playing in their second straight P12 title game. I think defensively there are some good athletes coming in, the first 3 games will give them a chance to adjust to D1 football before the heavy hitters start lining up against them on Saturdays.

Over/Under Wins

P12 South:
ASU 8
UCLA 8
USC 9
UA 7
Utah 3
Colo 3

P12 North
Oregon 11
Stanford 9
UW  8
Ore St 7
Wazzu 4
Cal 4

Go Devils devil
So, UCLA with the most experience coming back and with a more favorable schedule will win 2 less games than last year?   WSU won 6 games last year and return a 4th year starting QB and you have them winning 2 less than last year? Utah brings back a healthy QB also and you have them regressing.

As a matter of fact, this whole thing is kinda silly.  

Pac 12 south:

ASu will have 2 less wins
UCLA will have 2 less wins
USC will have 1 less win.. and they lost Kiffin!!
Arizona will have 1 less win
Utah will have 2 less wins
Colo will have 1 less win

Do you see the pattern?  Did we all lose our QBs and most of our defense?  Isn't Ariz the only team losing a QB?  But, somehow we will have 9 less wins this year from last?
No end in sight of the need for affirmation from the UCLA fan base.



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Posted: 06/29/2014 9:37 AM

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It is a BETTING LINE ... not a prediction of wins.
If you are confident that UCLA will have more than 8 wins in 2014, then plop down $100 in Vegas on the OVER.

That is all this list is about ... betting.  Not about predicting a finish or wins. 
mikebro wrote:
SDSundevil wrote: How I see it shaping up...P12 south is going to be extremely tight this year ASU, UCLA and USC are very close and will likely all be in the thick of the P12 south race into the latter stages of the regular season. I give UCLA the slight edge overall and I think its fair to give USC a slight edge on ASU as they host the Devils in LA. If the Sun Devil Defense can rise up above the lowly pre-season expectations the Devils may very well be playing in their second straight P12 title game. I think defensively there are some good athletes coming in, the first 3 games will give them a chance to adjust to D1 football before the heavy hitters start lining up against them on Saturdays.

Over/Under Wins

P12 South:
ASU 8
UCLA 8
USC 9
UA 7
Utah 3
Colo 3

P12 North
Oregon 11
Stanford 9
UW  8
Ore St 7
Wazzu 4
Cal 4

Go Devils devil
So, UCLA with the most experience coming back and with a more favorable schedule will win 2 less games than last year?   WSU won 6 games last year and return a 4th year starting QB and you have them winning 2 less than last year? Utah brings back a healthy QB also and you have them regressing.

As a matter of fact, this whole thing is kinda silly.  

Pac 12 south:

ASu will have 2 less wins
UCLA will have 2 less wins
USC will have 1 less win.. and they lost Kiffin!!
Arizona will have 1 less win
Utah will have 2 less wins
Colo will have 1 less win

Do you see the pattern?  Did we all lose our QBs and most of our defense?  Isn't Ariz the only team losing a QB?  But, somehow we will have 9 less wins this year from last?
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Posted: 06/29/2014 9:38 AM

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For the record, USC doesn't play Hawaii this year.

I agree with your list for the most part.  I think you're selling ASU too short and overrating SC.  I'd put ASU closer to 10 and SC closer to 8.


TillmanTunnell wrote:
SDSundevil wrote: How I see it shaping up...P12 south is going to be extremely tight this year ASU, UCLA and USC are very close and will likely all be in the thick of the P12 south race into the latter stages of the regular season. I give UCLA the slight edge overall and I think its fair to give USC a slight edge on ASU as they host the Devils in LA. If the Sun Devil Defense can rise up above the lowly pre-season expectations the Devils may very well be playing in their second straight P12 title game. I think defensively there are some good athletes coming in, the first 3 games will give them a chance to adjust to D1 football before the heavy hitters start lining up against them on Saturdays.

Over/Under Wins

P12 South:
ASU 8
UCLA 12 (although I think they play 14 games)
USC 11 (They play Hawaii so they have an extra game)
UA 7
Utah 5
Colo 4

P12 North
Oregon 12 (Will have 14 games)
Stanford 10
UW  8.5
Ore St 7
Wazzu 5.5
Cal 3

Go Devils devil
Those are my guesses.
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Posted: 06/29/2014 9:44 AM

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Green85 wrote: It is a BETTING LINE ... not a prediction of wins.
If you are confident that UCLA will have more than 8 wins in 2014, then plop down $100 in Vegas on the OVER.

That is all this list is about ... betting.  Not about predicting a finish or wins. 
In all fairness it could be considered a prediction if you're hell bent on continually scouring the internet for every little thought that may possibly challenge your self-perception.



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Posted: 06/29/2014 10:14 AM

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Yes, the internet is riddled with slights, digs, and affronts if you look hard enough for them. I hope I didn't just offend someone overly sensitive!
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Posted: 06/29/2014 10:33 AM

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CP4UCLA wrote: For the record, USC doesn't play Hawaii this year.

I agree with your list for the most part.  I think you're selling ASU too short and overrating SC.  I'd put ASU closer to 10 and SC closer to 8.


TillmanTunnell wrote:
SDSundevil wrote: How I see it shaping up...P12 south is going to be extremely tight this year ASU, UCLA and USC are very close and will likely all be in the thick of the P12 south race into the latter stages of the regular season. I give UCLA the slight edge overall and I think its fair to give USC a slight edge on ASU as they host the Devils in LA. If the Sun Devil Defense can rise up above the lowly pre-season expectations the Devils may very well be playing in their second straight P12 title game. I think defensively there are some good athletes coming in, the first 3 games will give them a chance to adjust to D1 football before the heavy hitters start lining up against them on Saturdays.

Over/Under Wins

P12 South:
ASU 8
UCLA 12 (although I think they play 14 games)
USC 11 (They play Hawaii so they have an extra game)
UA 7
Utah 5
Colo 4

P12 North
Oregon 12 (Will have 14 games)
Stanford 10
UW  8.5
Ore St 7
Wazzu 5.5
Cal 3

Go Devils devil
Those are my guesses.
Thanks for the correction.  Then I'd definately drop USC down to 10 since I figured that would be an automatic win.  

As for ASU, I basically think we have a 10 win offense and a 6 win defense.  

I think we are going to miss Grice more than some think.  He never fumbled and he never lost yards.  
It's also possible for our defense to be a lot better than what it currently looks like.

If those 2 things happen (Defense looks good and we can replace Grice) then we will contend for the South.  It's kind of an interesting way of looking at things, but when UCLA comes to Tempe on that Thursday night you guys aren't going to know what to do with our defense.  You wont know who to double team, who to attack, who to avoid etc because there wont be much tape after our 2 warm up games.  

You guys on the other hand have to play @UVA and @Tex so we should have a very good idea of how you have developed this off season and what you are trying to do with your personell.

I definitely think that UCLA has the better talent this year but ASU has a situational advantage with the early schedule differences in my opinion.  Of corse you could counter and say that your tough early schedule will have you ready for the ASU game.
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Posted: 06/29/2014 11:39 AM

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It's some moron's betting line.......... Not Vegas's

The over- under for UCLA is expected to be listed at 10, possibly 10 1/2. With the over bet getting better payout odds(+125)

If the line for UCLA was set at 8, it would be easy money..... Ie the only way you lose is if they go 7-5 or worse...

Just so we're clear; these lines are set by Vegas for regular season wins only--- no bowls or conference Ch games are considered.


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--- Green85 wrote:

It is a BETTING LINE ... not a prediction of wins.
If you are confident that UCLA will have more than 8 wins in 2014, then plop down $100 in Vegas on the OVER.

That is all this list is about ... betting.  Not about predicting a finish or wins. 
mikebro wrote:
SDSundevil wrote: How I see it shaping up...P12 south is going to be extremely tight this year ASU, UCLA and USC are very close and will likely all be in the thick of the P12 south race into the latter stages of the regular season. I give UCLA the slight edge overall and I think its fair to give USC a slight edge on ASU as they host the Devils in LA. If the Sun Devil Defense can rise up above the lowly pre-season expectations the Devils may very well be playing in their second straight P12 title game. I think defensively there are some good athletes coming in, the first 3 games will give them a chance to adjust to D1 football before the heavy hitters start lining up against them on Saturdays.

Over/Under Wins

P12 South:
ASU 8
UCLA 8
USC 9
UA 7
Utah 3
Colo 3

P12 North
Oregon 11
Stanford 9
UW  8
Ore St 7
Wazzu 4
Cal 4

Go Devils devil
So, UCLA with the most experience coming back and with a more favorable schedule will win 2 less games than last year?   WSU won 6 games last year and return a 4th year starting QB and you have them winning 2 less than last year? Utah brings back a healthy QB also and you have them regressing.

As a matter of fact, this whole thing is kinda silly.  

Pac 12 south:

ASu will have 2 less wins
UCLA will have 2 less wins
USC will have 1 less win.. and they lost Kiffin!!
Arizona will have 1 less win
Utah will have 2 less wins
Colo will have 1 less win

Do you see the pattern?  Did we all lose our QBs and most of our defense?  Isn't Ariz the only team losing a QB?  But, somehow we will have 9 less wins this year from last?


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Posted: 06/29/2014 11:52 AM

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Back in May 5dimes listed over/unders for 35 teams on their site



UCLA at 9.5 wins :

Over was (+100)
Under was (-150)


Oregon at 10.5 wins :

Over was (+100)
Under was (-140)


USC at 8.5 wins:

Over was (-130)
Under was (-110)


ASU wasn't listed by them...
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Grice was a heck of a player and I'm excited to see what he does for my Chargers.

I respectfully disagree that ASU will have the advantage due to their schedule, but I do understand your point of view.  It does set up nice that ASU will have a chance to see what they have on defense without much of a challenge.  If you faced a tough opponent off the bat, it could expose potential problems and cost you an early loss.

UCLA will not only be battle tested going into the ASU game, but they'll be tested on the road.  I personally will take experience over schematics any day, but that's just me.  Assuming UCLA comes in undefeated, I think the key to the game will be ASU's offense vs. UCLA's defense.  Both side return a ton of talent and experience.  If UCLA wins that battle, they should win pretty easy.  If ASU has the advantage, it'll be yet another close game coming down to the wire, which is what I'm expecting.
TillmanTunnell wrote:
CP4UCLA wrote: For the record, USC doesn't play Hawaii this year.

I agree with your list for the most part.  I think you're selling ASU too short and overrating SC.  I'd put ASU closer to 10 and SC closer to 8.


TillmanTunnell wrote:
SDSundevil wrote: How I see it shaping up...P12 south is going to be extremely tight this year ASU, UCLA and USC are very close and will likely all be in the thick of the P12 south race into the latter stages of the regular season. I give UCLA the slight edge overall and I think its fair to give USC a slight edge on ASU as they host the Devils in LA. If the Sun Devil Defense can rise up above the lowly pre-season expectations the Devils may very well be playing in their second straight P12 title game. I think defensively there are some good athletes coming in, the first 3 games will give them a chance to adjust to D1 football before the heavy hitters start lining up against them on Saturdays.

Over/Under Wins

P12 South:
ASU 8
UCLA 12 (although I think they play 14 games)
USC 11 (They play Hawaii so they have an extra game)
UA 7
Utah 5
Colo 4

P12 North
Oregon 12 (Will have 14 games)
Stanford 10
UW  8.5
Ore St 7
Wazzu 5.5
Cal 3

Go Devils devil
Those are my guesses.
Thanks for the correction.  Then I'd definately drop USC down to 10 since I figured that would be an automatic win.  

As for ASU, I basically think we have a 10 win offense and a 6 win defense.  

I think we are going to miss Grice more than some think.  He never fumbled and he never lost yards.  
It's also possible for our defense to be a lot better than what it currently looks like.

If those 2 things happen (Defense looks good and we can replace Grice) then we will contend for the South.  It's kind of an interesting way of looking at things, but when UCLA comes to Tempe on that Thursday night you guys aren't going to know what to do with our defense.  You wont know who to double team, who to attack, who to avoid etc because there wont be much tape after our 2 warm up games.  

You guys on the other hand have to play @UVA and @Tex so we should have a very good idea of how you have developed this off season and what you are trying to do with your personell.

I definitely think that UCLA has the better talent this year but ASU has a situational advantage with the early schedule differences in my opinion.  Of corse you could counter and say that your tough early schedule will have you ready for the ASU game.
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