Posted: 1/16/2013 12:37 PM
WASHINGTON—President Barack Obama on Wednesday began his push for the most sweeping changes to gun laws in nearly two decades, including banning the sale of certain semiautomatic rifles and high-capacity ammunition magazines and requiring background checks for all gun buyers.
The president—rolling out his plan at a White House event flanked by children who wrote him in the aftermath of the shooting spree last month at a Connecticut elementary school—will push for a mix of 23 steps that he can take using executive powers as well as bigger moves that need congressional approval. A senior administration official said all the actions and proposals will cost about $500 million.
Banning certain types of weapons and high-capacity magazines, among other steps, will face a battle in Congress. Gun groups such as the National Rifle Association have said they will adamantly oppose many changes to gun laws.The president said that he respects the country's "strong tradition of gun ownership" but that the recent spate of mass shootings required action. "We can respect the Second Amendment while keeping an irresponsible law breaking few from inflicting harm on a massive level,'' he said.
The Newtown, Conn., school shooting last month has made gun control an urgent addition to the president's agenda as he begins his second term. In the month since the shootings, which killed 20 children and six adults at the school, Mr. Obama has mobilized Vice President Joe Biden, several cabinet members and other administration officials to study gun-control measures, mental-health issues, violence in videogames and more. After meeting with dozens of groups on both sides of the gun debate, Mr. Biden delivered a long list of recommendations to the president on Monday.
NRA officials have predicted that Congress won't pass legislation to ban high-capacity magazines and a group of semiautomatic rifles often called assault weapons, and many lawmakers have said many of the president's recommendations will face strong opposition.
Some states, including New York and Maryland, have moved ahead with aggressive gun-control laws. On Tuesday, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed a law that broadens the definition of banned semiautomatic rifles as so-called assault weapons and makes it illegal to own ammunition magazines with more than seven rounds.
New York's law also requires many gun owners to renew their licenses every five years, increases background checks and expands a law requiring some seriously mentally ill people to get treatment. It also requires psychiatrists and other health-care providers to report patients who may be dangerous to themselves or others.
According to a January poll conducted by the nonpartisan Pew Research Center for the People and the Press, about 85% of Americans favor making private gun sales and sales at gun shows subject to background checks. Also, Pew found, 80% support laws to prevent mentally ill people from purchasing guns.
But other measures show much more of a divide. Just 55% support a ban on assault-style weapons, with much stronger support from Democrats, the poll found.
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New York's law expands a law requiring some seriously mentally ill people to get treatment. It also requires psychiatrists and other health-care providers to report patients who may be dangerous to themselves or others.
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CaptainRon2 wrote: New York's law expands a law requiring some seriously mentally ill people to get treatment. It also requires psychiatrists and other health-care providers to report patients who may be dangerous to themselves or others. The ACLU will be all over this again. They fought this battle once and won. Why do you think some many mentally ill people are on the streets now. It violates their rights to treat them without their consent.
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CaptainRon2 wrote: Wrong. Do a little research and get back to us. Start with ACLU
Posted: 1/16/2013 9:57 PM
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CaptainRon2 wrote: Fox News, as people who don't really have an argument like to refer to has nothing to do with this "son". I had family that were directly affected by that ACLU ruling. It was directly responsible for closing down many of the central treatment centers and putting people on the street. To me this wasn't politics, it was personal. Son...
Kenneth Donaldson was 34, married with three children, and working in a General Electric defense plant when he had his first episode in 1943. Hospitalized at Marcy State Hospital, he was given 23 electro-shock treatments and resumed normal life. In the mid-1950s he developed paranoid delusions that he was being poisoned. At his parents' instigation, he was committed to Florida's Chattahoochee State Hospital in 1956. He remained there for fifteen years. Donaldson lacked insight (i.e., suffered anosognosia), and steadfastly denying he was ill, refused all treatment once he was hospitalized. He had a high degree of motivation, persistence and intelligence, and through the years persistently petitioned the courts for his release.
While he was in Chattahoochee, there were repeated offers - both from a halfway house in Minneapolis and a friend of Donaldson's in Syracuse - to provide a home and supervision for him.
Donaldson's own (probably correct) view was that the hospital's doctors would not release him because he refused to play what he called "the game" of thanking the doctors for making him better. Instead, he adamantly denied he was or ever had been ill.
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BipolarFriar wrote: I would love someone to actually refute Desert's post instead of insult him....------------------------------------------------ Gillen4 wrote:Well this one is off to a great start.---------------------------------------------
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I think legislation like this shows how absurd the NRA is ... Protecting Kids? You need more than a 10 magazine clip to protect yourself? You need assault weapons to protect yourself? You should be happy to have better background check processes to protect legitimate gun owners and keep everyone safe.Obama didn't come out and say "I hate guns, let's get rid of all of them," yet people will still find reasons to bitch. He is still allowing people "the right to bare arms," just not ridiculous, absurd arms.Perhaps it would be ok for me to just walk around with a bazooka?
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