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Shooting - Might as well start it

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Posted: 11/1/2009 11:17 AM

Shooting - Might as well start it 


After one of last year's exhibition games, I was widely criticized for voicing concern over our outside shooting.  Remember, we had a veteran-laden team last year...

 

Yesterday's performance on our own practice floor should, on face value, lead to continued concern.  However, we are a much younger team and the gym was reportedly warm to the point of being uncomfortable.  As such, the team's shooting gets a pass from me (although missing layups in our practice gym confounds me)...

 

I simply do not expect much winning from this team...we are incredibly young and some of our new players were necessarily recruited very quickly by the staff...I am content to look for consistent hustling, better offensive balance, and better defense this year...I think we will have to be prepared for some real shaggy offense at times, but I am ok with that as long as I see development from the underclassmen...

 

Should be an interesting year and am thinking that an at or near 0.500 record is where we will be...

 

 

 

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Posted: 11/1/2009 11:41 AM

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The gym being warm is an understatement, it was disgusting at times.

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Posted: 11/1/2009 11:45 AM

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Tommyboy81 wrote:

The gym being warm is an understatement, it was disgusting at times.

Yeah I looked up top and saw every window closed except for 1 on each side I think.

If anyone had the sense to throw them all wide open you probably would of had a nice cross breeze.





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Posted: 11/1/2009 11:50 AM

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The teletubbies must have each lost ten pounds.

 

By the way, what a pathetic display of costumes from the students.

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Posted: 11/1/2009 12:59 PM

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By the way, what a pathetic display of costumes from the students.

Costume creativity has never been a strong suit of the PC student body.  Really, creativity in general, is lacking from the student body.

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Posted: 11/1/2009 4:05 PM

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Connfriar wrote:

After one of last year's exhibition games, I was widely criticized for voicing concern over our outside shooting.  Remember, we had a veteran-laden team last year...

 

Yesterday's performance on our own practice floor should, on face value, lead to continued concern.  However, we are a much younger team and the gym was reportedly warm to the point of being uncomfortable.  As such, the team's shooting gets a pass from me (although missing layups in our practice gym confounds me)...

 

I simply do not expect much winning from this team...we are incredibly young and some of our new players were necessarily recruited very quickly by the staff...I am content to look for consistent hustling, better offensive balance, and better defense this year...I think we will have to be prepared for some real shaggy offense at times, but I am ok with that as long as I see development from the underclassmen...

 

Should be an interesting year and am thinking that an at or near 0.500 record is where we will be...

 

 

Just a question, do you have any idea where we ended up from a shooting  % and 3 pt. shooting percentage in BE play last year?

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Posted: 11/1/2009 4:52 PM

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FriarJ wrote:

 

Connfriar wrote:

After one of last year's exhibition games, I was widely criticized for voicing concern over our outside shooting.  Remember, we had a veteran-laden team last year...

 

Yesterday's performance on our own practice floor should, on face value, lead to continued concern.  However, we are a much younger team and the gym was reportedly warm to the point of being uncomfortable.  As such, the team's shooting gets a pass from me (although missing layups in our practice gym confounds me)...

 

I simply do not expect much winning from this team...we are incredibly young and some of our new players were necessarily recruited very quickly by the staff...I am content to look for consistent hustling, better offensive balance, and better defense this year...I think we will have to be prepared for some real shaggy offense at times, but I am ok with that as long as I see development from the underclassmen...

 

Should be an interesting year and am thinking that an at or near 0.500 record is where we will be...

 

 

Just a question, do you have any idea where we ended up from a shooting  % and 3 pt. shooting percentage in BE play last year?

Field Goal % - We were 8th...not surprising given the bodies we had down low and Wey eventually started driving to the hoop...if we had made some layups and put backs, we would have been better...

 

3-point % - 12th...ahead of St. Johns, USF, DePaul, and Rutgers...................12th.............

 

http://www.bigeast.org/fls/194...09/CONFLDRS.HTM

 

 

 

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Posted: 11/1/2009 5:36 PM

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Incredibly young, Conn?  We played 2 seniors, and 3 juniors for good minutes....throw in Greedy who is really a Jr, and I wouldnt say we're incredibly young.  To me thats a big misnomer with this season. IMHO incredibly young is having a major majority (80%) of your starting line-up be underclassman.  We'll be 40% - Dixon and Greedy who are really Soph and Jrs.

 

IMHO we're not that young.

 

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Posted: 11/1/2009 5:41 PM

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Agree with 91...we're inexperienced...not young.

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Posted: 11/1/2009 6:12 PM

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Connfriar wrote:

 

FriarJ wrote:

 

Connfriar wrote:

After one of last year's exhibition games, I was widely criticized for voicing concern over our outside shooting.  Remember, we had a veteran-laden team last year...

 

Yesterday's performance on our own practice floor should, on face value, lead to continued concern.  However, we are a much younger team and the gym was reportedly warm to the point of being uncomfortable.  As such, the team's shooting gets a pass from me (although missing layups in our practice gym confounds me)...

 

I simply do not expect much winning from this team...we are incredibly young and some of our new players were necessarily recruited very quickly by the staff...I am content to look for consistent hustling, better offensive balance, and better defense this year...I think we will have to be prepared for some real shaggy offense at times, but I am ok with that as long as I see development from the underclassmen...

 

Should be an interesting year and am thinking that an at or near 0.500 record is where we will be...

 

 

Just a question, do you have any idea where we ended up from a shooting  % and 3 pt. shooting percentage in BE play last year?

Field Goal % - We were 8th...not surprising given the bodies we had down low and Wey eventually started driving to the hoop...if we had made some layups and put backs, we would have been better...

 

3-point % - 12th...ahead of St. Johns, USF, DePaul, and Rutgers...................12th.............

 

http://www.bigeast.org/fls/194...09/CONFLDRS.HTM

 

 

wrong.

 

3rd in scoring and 6th in fg% and 7th in 3pt. % out of 16 teams.  So even though we started slowly we obviously picked it up over the last 1/2 of the season.  My question stated BE Play.

 

Over reaction again on this point, but hey if you want to blow that horn after ONE exhibition game.  Knock yourself out.

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Posted: 11/1/2009 6:42 PM

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in college, i'd rather have scorers than shooters

nba is a different story
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Posted: 11/1/2009 7:43 PM

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BipolarFriar wrote:

Agree with 91...we're inexperienced...not young.


Agree...inexperienced...

 

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Posted: 11/1/2009 7:45 PM

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FriarJ wrote:

 

Connfriar wrote:

 

FriarJ wrote:

 

Connfriar wrote:

After one of last year's exhibition games, I was widely criticized for voicing concern over our outside shooting.  Remember, we had a veteran-laden team last year...

 

Yesterday's performance on our own practice floor should, on face value, lead to continued concern.  However, we are a much younger team and the gym was reportedly warm to the point of being uncomfortable.  As such, the team's shooting gets a pass from me (although missing layups in our practice gym confounds me)...

 

I simply do not expect much winning from this team...we are incredibly young and some of our new players were necessarily recruited very quickly by the staff...I am content to look for consistent hustling, better offensive balance, and better defense this year...I think we will have to be prepared for some real shaggy offense at times, but I am ok with that as long as I see development from the underclassmen...

 

Should be an interesting year and am thinking that an at or near 0.500 record is where we will be...

 

 

Just a question, do you have any idea where we ended up from a shooting  % and 3 pt. shooting percentage in BE play last year?

Field Goal % - We were 8th...not surprising given the bodies we had down low and Wey eventually started driving to the hoop...if we had made some layups and put backs, we would have been better...

 

3-point % - 12th...ahead of St. Johns, USF, DePaul, and Rutgers...................12th.............

 

http://www.bigeast.org/fls/194...09/CONFLDRS.HTM

 

 

wrong.

 

3rd in scoring and 6th in fg% and 7th in 3pt. % out of 16 teams.  So even though we started slowly we obviously picked it up over the last 1/2 of the season.  My question stated BE Play.

 

Over reaction again on this point, but hey if you want to blow that horn after ONE exhibition game.  Knock yourself out.


So we should just ignore non-conference play?  Why?

 

How am I overreacting?  Read my initial post, douchebag....

 

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Posted: 11/2/2009 8:05 AM

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Conn, we became a much better overall offensive team when Curry got to 100%. The non conf failures of last year cost us an NCAA trip and they should not be discounted. Our poor shooting was a big part of that, but I like to think if we had a fully healed Curry, we would have done alot better both in shooting, scoring, and wins and losses.

 

 

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Posted: 11/2/2009 8:43 AM

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inexperienced, sure....in the frontcourt.

 

but, college basketball is a guard game, and our experience lies with our guards who are also our two best players - one a 5th yr PG and the other a star in making.  I'll take my chances with that.  Both those players will play 38 min per game.  So there wont be any inexperience at all except for maybe 4 min per game at two positions.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted: 11/2/2009 9:20 AM

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I think the two keys to having a successful shooting season is a solid contribution from Brian McKenzie and improved off the ball play from Curry.


For McKenzie, I would hold the flag and run around the gym like that student for 3-5 from 3p range and 9 ppg.


I would think Curry can handle working as off-guard and scoring.  That said, I've yet to see him do it and he did little to sway my opinion on Saturday.

 

 

 

 

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Posted: 11/2/2009 9:42 AM

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91 If both play 38 minutes a game one or both will breakdown before the end of the year.  What would happen to the uptempo game we expect Keno to play?  Uptempo I would expect 28 to 32 to to be the max.

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Posted: 11/2/2009 9:49 AM

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The two guards won't be a 5th yr. Sr. PG and a Jr. ready to become an All-Star... Council will start as PG, with Curry off the ball. Brooks will be mostly at the 3.

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Posted: 11/2/2009 10:07 AM

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The bar was set pretty low last year:

 

3pt percentage 08-09
Sharaud Curry .390
Weyinmi Efejuku .388
Marshon Brooks .313
Jeff Xavier .291
Brian McKenzie .266
Geoff McDermott .206

 

Wright hit 42% out of his 224 attempts from deep in jc:

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Hopefully that will translate to DI. He's only attempted 2 three pointers so far.

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Posted: 11/2/2009 10:11 AM

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Inexperienced teams don't tend to shoot the ball at a very high percentage.  All the more reason why we'd better find a way to guard people.

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