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16 U.S. Intelligence Agencies now agree with Ron Paul

Posted: 2/24/2012 12:19 PM

16 U.S. Intelligence Agencies now agree with Ron Paul 


Somebody ain't tellin' the truth:

U.S. does not believe Iran is trying to build nuclear bomb

The latest U.S. intelligence report indicates Iran is pursuing research that could enable it to build a nuclear weapon, but that it has not sought to do so.

By Ken Dilanian, Los Angeles Times

February 23, 2012, 6:11 p.m.
Reporting from Washington—

As U.S. and Israeli officials talk publicly about the prospect of a military strike against Iran's nuclear program, one fact is often overlooked: U.S. intelligence agencies don't believe Iran is actively trying to build an atomic bomb.

A highly classified U.S. intelligence assessment circulated to policymakers early last year largely affirms that view, originally made in 2007. Both reports, known as national intelligence estimates, conclude that Tehran halted efforts to develop and build a nuclear warhead in 2003.

The most recent report, which represents the consensus of 16 U.S. intelligence agencies, indicates that Iran is pursuing research that could put it in a position to build a weapon, but that it has not sought to do so.

Although Iran continues to enrich uranium at low levels, U.S. officials say they have not seen evidence that has caused them to significantly revise that judgment. Senior U.S. officials say Israel does not dispute the basic intelligence or analysis.


http://www.latimes.com/news/na...0,5827032.story


By comparison, then there "could" be a Bigfoot living inside my front living room closet too, but so far as I can tell there's not one in there.

So what's the big hurry to start a nuclear war with China, Russian, and India once they realize that their main gas pump has been shut off completely?
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Posted: 2/24/2012 12:32 PM

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Shock and awe

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Posted: 2/24/2012 12:32 PM

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I'm afraid we are making Iran into Iraq #2

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Posted: 2/24/2012 4:27 PM

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http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/24/....html?hpt=hp_t1

So a report early last year says they are not enriching weapons grade uranium, but a investigators this week say differently.

Gee which is more recent and indicative of recent events?
 
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Posted: 2/24/2012 5:02 PM

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YuneMan20 wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/24/....html?hpt=hp_t1

So a report early last year says they are not enriching weapons grade uranium, but a investigators this week say differently.

Gee which is more recent and indicative of recent events?

Huh?:

"In the report, published by the Institute for Science and International Security, a nonprofit group focused on nuclear nonproliferation efforts, the IAEA said Iran is not cooperating with efforts to verify that its nuclear program is purely peaceful,"

If Iran is not "cooperating with efforts to verify", then how is it even logically possible to state with absolute certainty that Iran is enriching weapons grade uranium?  Just because they won't let the inspectors in to see one way or the other, then how can you definitively state that Iran is enriching weapons grade uranium?

For example, if you won't let me inside your house to see for myself if you've been smacking the little lady around a bit, then am I immediately allowed to definitively state that you are a wife-beater?

Similarly, if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, then how do you know that it made a sound?
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Posted: 2/24/2012 5:52 PM

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We are hearing the same stuff with Iran that we heard with Iraq. It's war propaganda...

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Posted: 2/24/2012 6:42 PM

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Yea, well what if the U.S. Intelligence is wrong!

Nuke bombs are not something you would won't to make a mistake with especially in the wrong hands!!
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Posted: 2/24/2012 7:38 PM

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Don't you think Iran knows we could wipe them off the face of the earth with one push of a button? Of all countries for the citizens of the most powerful military country in the world to fear, it's Iran?

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Posted: 2/24/2012 8:30 PM

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How does the US have 16+ intelligence agencies?
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Posted: 2/24/2012 10:28 PM

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1. You're report can have estimates and its legit, but mine cannot.
2. A year ago it was pursuing research that could put it into a position to build a nuclear weapon. According to the news article I supplied investigators have confirmation that the are enriching uranium past the percentages required to sustain nuclear power.

How in the world does your article based on a year old report contradict my article based on a report that is a week old at most?
MillardH wrote: Somebody ain't tellin' the truth:

U.S. does not believe Iran is trying to build nuclear bomb

The latest U.S. intelligence report indicates Iran is pursuing research that could enable it to build a nuclear weapon, but that it has not sought to do so.

By Ken Dilanian, Los Angeles Times

February 23, 2012, 6:11 p.m.
Reporting from Washington—

As U.S. and Israeli officials talk publicly about the prospect of a military strike against Iran's nuclear program, one fact is often overlooked: U.S. intelligence agencies don't believe Iran is actively trying to build an atomic bomb.

A highly classified U.S. intelligence assessment circulated to policymakers early last year largely affirms that view, originally made in 2007. Both reports, known as national intelligence estimates, conclude that Tehran halted efforts to develop and build a nuclear warhead in 2003.

The most recent report, which represents the consensus of 16 U.S. intelligence agencies, indicates that Iran is pursuing research that could put it in a position to build a weapon, but that it has not sought to do so.

Although Iran continues to enrich uranium at low levels, U.S. officials say they have not seen evidence that has caused them to significantly revise that judgment. Senior U.S. officials say Israel does not dispute the basic intelligence or analysis.


http://www.latimes.com/news/na...0,5827032.story


By comparison, then there "could" be a Bigfoot living inside my front living room closet too, but so far as I can tell there's not one in there.

So what's the big hurry to start a nuclear war with China, Russian, and India once they realize that their main gas pump has been shut off completely?
 
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Posted: 2/28/2012 12:04 PM

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No responses?
 
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Posted: 2/28/2012 1:58 PM

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There is no evidence Iran is pursuing a nuclear bomb... We heard this exact same propaganda with Iraq.

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Posted: 2/29/2012 8:26 AM

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The thing that scares me is how quickly a majority of the candidates will go to war. I am not opposed to war but there needs to be a direct threat to us on the soil of the U.S. before we do someting, and if we do lets ATLEAST get a declaration of war.
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Posted: 2/29/2012 8:37 AM

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SS i can see it already. you are the guy that will be saying " they ain't got no nukes!! they ain't got no nukes!! even as it explodes in your back yard, you will smokin on your ole stogey saying, no way that is from IRAN!!"
The quality of a person’s life is in direct proportion to their commitment to excellence, regardless of their chosen field of endeavor. -Vincent T. Lombardi
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Posted: 2/29/2012 8:38 AM

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then some one, somewhere will say....if them stupid people in washington would have done something, theses 2.8 million people that have been annihilated would still be here!!!! Then, it will be there fault. So, they are in a no win situation with someone like you!
The quality of a person’s life is in direct proportion to their commitment to excellence, regardless of their chosen field of endeavor. -Vincent T. Lombardi
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Posted: 2/29/2012 9:13 AM

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So what you are saying that is that even if we do not know with a shaddow of a doubt that they do or do not have a nuclear arsinal we should go ahead and bomb them?
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Posted: 2/29/2012 9:26 AM

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no...i didn't say that...i said to SS that since he is so convinced that IRAQ AND IRAN are nuke free...one day, when they nuke someone, he is then gonna say something else that points the finger of blame at.

And you and i cant say that without a shadow of a doubt they do or don't have weapons grade nuclear material, unless you have seen it. That is for our intelligence community to assceratin.(i think i used that word correctly):) I for one, would rather our officials be proactive in stopping their development than having to be part of a clean up crew digging holes for mass burial sites!
The quality of a person’s life is in direct proportion to their commitment to excellence, regardless of their chosen field of endeavor. -Vincent T. Lombardi
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Posted: 2/29/2012 10:05 AM

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Sigh

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Posted: 2/29/2012 10:16 AM

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The quality of a person’s life is in direct proportion to their commitment to excellence, regardless of their chosen field of endeavor. -Vincent T. Lombardi
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Posted: 2/29/2012 11:23 AM

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SaratogaSprings wrote: Don't you think Iran knows we could wipe them off the face of the earth with one push of a button? Of all countries for the citizens of the most powerful military country in the world to fear, it's Iran?
Iran is not bothered by our power. There leader and leaders believe that by provoking war they will usher in there new world and there God and prophest will protect them from us.
John 10:10
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Posted: 2/29/2012 11:37 AM

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Sure thing bud...

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Posted: 2/29/2012 11:40 AM

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Think what you want about iran's president, but he aint stupid. He is actually very smart. Iran is not a threat to us. The one thing I hate most about 9-11 is how paranoid it made people, and has since resulted in us taking actions that have made us less safe than we were before.

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Posted: 2/29/2012 11:54 AM

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2 Things that I know...
Israel had more than 200 Nuclear Devices in the 80s...And isnt afraid to use them if provoked by or threatened with nuclear attack...The Jewish saying, "never again" will ensure that...

 Israel has never officially admitted to having nuclear weapons, instead repeating over the years that it would not be the first country to "introduce" nuclear weapons to the Middle east.  Israel refused to sign the NPT...currently its estimated they have over 400 nuclear weapons in various types to include Ballistic long range missiles...aircraft and subs...

They will not be afraid to use them in an 'End Game' scenario attack by Iran or anyone else...probably my scariest moment in Desert Storm was when Iraq launched the SCUDs at Israel...told my wife that we may witnessing the end of civilization...anything except conventional warheads (which it was) would have resulted in Baghdad ceasing to be a geographical feature, and probably the capitals of every Muslim country to include Mecca would cease to exist...which may have started a like retaliation from Russia or even China...which the US would respond and we all die...quick fried, slow roasted or starved / frozen in a nuclear winter...take your pick
What'd Einstein say...He wasnt sure how WWIII would be fought, but WWIV would be with sticks and stones...

2nd thing Im sure of...Ron Paul isnt gonna be POTUS...wont stake my life on it, stranger things have happened, OJ was ruled innocent for example.....but I'll stick a C-note to it....

"I dont care anymore"
Phil Collins
Done
über
et bien fini

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Posted: 3/12/2012 4:44 PM

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Hmmm.....another peculiar answer......this time from Mr. 1-World Government himself (former Secretary of State under Nixon, Henry Kissinger):


Kissinger: We should ignore intelligence and assume Iran wants nukes

By Agence France-Presse
Sunday, March 11, 2012 20:11 EDT

Former US secretary of state Henry Kissinger said in an interview Sunday that the United States should assume that Iran is actively preparing to build nuclear weapons.

Kissinger, 88, was asked on the CNN show “GPS” if the threat of an Iranian nuclear weapon was so dire that Israel would need to launch a military strike in the near future.

“I am very uneasy with the so-called intelligence report that say we don’t know whether they are actually working on nuclear weapons,” Kissinger told CNN.

“I think we should start from the premise that they are undergoing all this in order to achieve a military capability. I don’t think that is a disputable point.”

US intelligence analysts believe there is no hard evidence that Iran has decided to build a nuclear bomb — an assessment broadly consistent with a 2007 intelligence finding that concluded that Iran had abandoned its nuclear weapons program, The New York Times reported in February, citing unnamed US officials.

The assessment was largely reaffirmed in a 2010 National Intelligence Estimate, and that it remains the consensus view of America’s 16 intelligence agencies, the Times reported.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/201...an-wants-nukes/




However, Kissinger didn't seem to share the same opinion back in 1975 when both he, Dick Cheney, and Paul Wolfowitz tried to help Iran start a nuclear program on the premise that Iran would run out of oil by 1990:


Yet Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and outgoing Deputy Secretary Paul Wolfowitz held key national security posts when the Ford administration made the opposite argument 30 years ago.

Ford's team endorsed Iranian plans to build a massive nuclear energy industry, but also worked hard to complete a multibillion-dollar deal that would have given Tehran control of large quantities of plutonium and enriched uranium -- the two pathways to a nuclear bomb. Either can be shaped into the core of a nuclear warhead, and obtaining one or the other is generally considered the most significant obstacle to would-be weapons builders.

Iran, a U.S. ally then, had deep pockets and close ties to Washington. U.S. companies, including Westinghouse and General Electric, scrambled to do business there.

"I don't think the issue of proliferation came up," Henry A. Kissinger, who was Ford's secretary of state, said in an interview for this article.




http://www.washingtonpost.com/...-2005Mar26.html

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