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Is the MAIS moving their FP season to the spring?
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Posted: 12/12/2011 9:16 PM
Is the MAIS moving their FP season to the spring?
I had been told that MAIS is moving the FP season to the spring, and that they were going to allow the teams to play this spring even though they have already played this fall. Now I am hearing that this is not true. Anyone have any info???
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Posted: 12/12/2011 11:15 PM
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I have been hearing both as well... Not sure on anything just yet.
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Posted: 12/13/2011 6:53 PM
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Posted: 12/13/2011 6:53 PM
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Surely they are...doesnt make sense missing more than a year to play ball
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Posted: 12/14/2011 12:52 PM
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I heard it was NOT moving to the spring this year!
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Posted: 12/14/2011 1:37 PM
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I'm told the AAC committee voted on this a couple of months ago and were a couple votes short of moving it to the Spring. A second vote happens after the first of the year. I'm also told the committee was tossing around the idea, that if it does move to Spring, having a condensed Spring schedule this Spring so the girls won't have to go a year and a half without playing. I guess we'll know the outcome soon.
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Posted: 1/10/2012 8:56 AM
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My understanding is the vote is to happen before the end of January. I just wanted to put some food for thought out there for those that will be voting on this matter. I would hope that the decision made will be based on what would, in my opinion be best for the student athlete. Remember that in most MAIS schools that most of your young ladies play and participate in multiple activities. In the Fall, on any given day, these young ladies bounce from basketball to cheer leading to softball to soccer. Throw in the fact that they are trying to keep up with their scholastic side as well. After all, you can be a superstar, but if grades aren't there it doesn't really matter. Include the fact that injuries are more likely to happen due to lack of shut down time for the body to recoup and rebuild muscle. Also need to throw in the selfish nature of coaches and not wanting to share their superstar shortstop, point guard with the cheer sponsor or soccer coach.. They want their players there for practices and workouts so that their program can be the best it can be and that is understandable. I see this opportunity to move softball to spring to have a lot more pluses than minuses. I have heard and read reasons for and against and as in all decisions a lot are for selfish reasons, not barring some of my own. I would think one of the biggest factors will be involving those schools where the baseball and softball coaches are one in the same. The school gets more bang for the buck and the coach gets a bigger check. Understandable! When I get ready to make a tough decision I have two columns on a piece of paper. One side is for the positives and the other is for the negatives. I write down all legitimate reasons in the appropriate column and then make my decision based on which out weighs the other. Do not always like the outcome but it does work in most situations. In closing, just remember that what ever decision is made, keep the student athletes interest at the top of the list.
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Posted: 1/10/2012 2:16 PM
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Valid reasons Curveball. Soccer and softball and now volleyball conflict. That's the biggest reasons I've heard for moving fastpitch. Why has no one mentioned moving soccer to a later date? The MHSAA girls soccer season is in full swing right now. Months after softball is over. That would eliminate the problem. Curveball9 wrote: My understanding is the vote is to happen before the end of January. I just wanted to put some food for thought out there for those that will be voting on this matter. I would hope that the decision made will be based on what would, in my opinion be best for the student athlete. Remember that in most MAIS schools that most of your young ladies play and participate in multiple activities. In the Fall, on any given day, these young ladies bounce from basketball to cheer leading to softball to soccer. Throw in the fact that they are trying to keep up with their scholastic side as well. After all, you can be a superstar, but if grades aren't there it doesn't really matter. Include the fact that injuries are more likely to happen due to lack of shut down time for the body to recoup and rebuild muscle. Also need to throw in the selfish nature of coaches and not wanting to share their superstar shortstop, point guard with the cheer sponsor or soccer coach.. They want their players there for practices and workouts so that their program can be the best it can be and that is understandable. I see this opportunity to move softball to spring to have a lot more pluses than minuses. I have heard and read reasons for and against and as in all decisions a lot are for selfish reasons, not barring some of my own. I would think one of the biggest factors will be involving those schools where the baseball and softball coaches are one in the same. The school gets more bang for the buck and the coach gets a bigger check. Understandable! When I get ready to make a tough decision I have two columns on a piece of paper. One side is for the positives and the other is for the negatives. I write down all legitimate reasons in the appropriate column and then make my decision based on which out weighs the other. Do not always like the outcome but it does work in most situations. In closing, just remember that what ever decision is made, keep the student athletes interest at the top of the list.
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Posted: 1/10/2012 7:52 PM
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Curveball9 wrote: My understanding is the vote is to happen before the end of January. I just wanted to put some food for thought out there for those that will be voting on this matter. I would hope that the decision made will be based on what would, in my opinion be best for the student athlete. Remember that in most MAIS schools that most of your young ladies play and participate in multiple activities. In the Fall, on any given day, these young ladies bounce from basketball to cheer leading to softball to soccer. Throw in the fact that they are trying to keep up with their scholastic side as well. After all, you can be a superstar, but if grades aren't there it doesn't really matter. Include the fact that injuries are more likely to happen due to lack of shut down time for the body to recoup and rebuild muscle. Also need to throw in the selfish nature of coaches and not wanting to share their superstar shortstop, point guard with the cheer sponsor or soccer coach.. They want their players there for practices and workouts so that their program can be the best it can be and that is understandable. I see this opportunity to move softball to spring to have a lot more pluses than minuses. I have heard and read reasons for and against and as in all decisions a lot are for selfish reasons, not barring some of my own. I would think one of the biggest factors will be involving those schools where the baseball and softball coaches are one in the same. The school gets more bang for the buck and the coach gets a bigger check. Understandable! When I get ready to make a tough decision I have two columns on a piece of paper. One side is for the positives and the other is for the negatives. I write down all legitimate reasons in the appropriate column and then make my decision based on which out weighs the other. Do not always like the outcome but it does work in most situations. In closing, just remember that what ever decision is made, keep the student athletes interest at the top of the list.
Curveball9 Very well stated! The girls in MAIS schools have so much going on in the fall and so little going on in the Spring.  |
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Posted: 1/10/2012 7:55 PM
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justplayhard wrote: Valid reasons Curveball. Soccer and softball and now volleyball conflict. That's the biggest reasons I've heard for moving fastpitch. Why has no one mentioned moving soccer to a later date? The MHSAA girls soccer season is in full swing right now. Months after softball is over. That would eliminate the problem. What I've never understood is why boys and girls soccer is at two separate times of the year... that is not done anywhere else. Why would you put two female sports at the same time of the year and force the athletes to decide?  |
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Posted: 1/11/2012 12:59 PM
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There are many factors involved in this idea. Most schools in the MAIS do not play volleyball, and many do not play soccer. From my viewpoint as a softball coach, I can find only two advantages to moving the season to the spring, (not counting the travel ball players), we would have a longer season in the spring so we would not have to play as many games in a short time, and we could compete with the MHSAA schools which would give us an opportunity to beef up our schedules. Our school has a very competitive track program, and that would interfere with a spring season. The main concern that I have other than personal reasons dealing with my other job, (as many of my coaching peers have also raised), is that we will be stretching our umpires very thin. If you are not happy with the umpiring now, just move to the spring and see how you like it! These guys and gals would then have to umpire public and private baseball and softball, and some of them also call college ball. I know some will say get more umps, but we need good ones, not just umps. One solution would be to move soccer and volleyball. Volleyball could be played in the spring (inside) and soccer could be played now. JMO
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Posted: 1/11/2012 6:43 PM
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Bottom line...
No matter what decision is made... some people are going to be unhappy, mostly because of their own personal beliefs and reasons.
Having coached at both a MHSAA and a MAIS school, I prefer the spring time... it just feels more like softball season to me. But I'm sure others feel differently.
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Posted: 1/12/2012 9:26 AM
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True that most people are basing their decision on what benefits them personally. I personally enjoy being the only softball played in the fall. The state tourny is very well attended by people that have little or no affiliation with the MAIS other than travel ball friends and such. Lots of jr college coaches and old Arrow usually shows up too!! We get the best umpires around. I think it "showcases" the MAIS girls much more than it would in the spring. And no I don't mean showcase for colleges. I just meant gives these girls their time in the spotlight better. And the umpire issue in the spring would create havoc! WildRebel45 wrote: Bottom line...
No matter what decision is made... some people are going to be unhappy, mostly because of their own personal beliefs and reasons.
Having coached at both a MHSAA and a MAIS school, I prefer the spring time... it just feels more like softball season to me. But I'm sure others feel differently. |
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Posted: 1/12/2012 12:44 PM
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AMEN! Well said and I agree. justplayhard wrote: True that most people are basing their decision on what benefits them personally. I personally enjoy being the only softball played in the fall. The state tourny is very well attended by people that have little or no affiliation with the MAIS other than travel ball friends and such. Lots of jr college coaches and old Arrow usually shows up too!! We get the best umpires around. I think it "showcases" the MAIS girls much more than it would in the spring. And no I don't mean showcase for colleges. I just meant gives these girls their time in the spotlight better.
And the umpire issue in the spring would create havoc!
WildRebel45 wrote: Bottom line...
No matter what decision is made... some people are going to be unhappy, mostly because of their own personal beliefs and reasons.
Having coached at both a MHSAA and a MAIS school, I prefer the spring time... it just feels more like softball season to me. But I'm sure others feel differently. |
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Posted: 1/12/2012 6:47 PM
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justplayhard wrote: True that most people are basing their decision on what benefits them personally. I personally enjoy being the only softball played in the fall. The state tourny is very well attended by people that have little or no affiliation with the MAIS other than travel ball friends and such. Lots of jr college coaches and old Arrow usually shows up too!! We get the best umpires around. I think it "showcases" the MAIS girls much more than it would in the spring. And no I don't mean showcase for colleges. I just meant gives these girls their time in the spotlight better.
And the umpire issue in the spring would create havoc!
WildRebel45 wrote: Bottom line...
No matter what decision is made... some people are going to be unhappy, mostly because of their own personal beliefs and reasons.
Having coached at both a MHSAA and a MAIS school, I prefer the spring time... it just feels more like softball season to me. But I'm sure others feel differently. I totally agree! When I coached in the MAIS, I enjoyed the warmer weather of the fall, among other things... but I didn't like the thunderstorms, competing with high school and junior high football for scheduling, or the short time frame we had to play our sechedule. But to me, nothing compares to a Friday night game, in the crisp, cool winter/spring air. I loved those coaching public school ball. No doubt that the move would cause umpire problems, which is the biggest problem I see with it. No matter what decision is made, I hope it's made in the best interest of the girls and nothing else!
Last edited 1/12/2012 6:48 PM by WildRebel45
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Posted: 1/16/2012 8:50 AM
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Everyone has posted really good comments and points on this issue...I have my own but most would just be repeats of what others have already said...I really just have one question...does anyone know when this second vote is supposed to take place?
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Posted: 1/16/2012 9:38 AM
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January 26
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Posted: 1/16/2012 9:59 AM
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WildRebel45 wrote:
justplayhard wrote: True that most people are basing their decision on what benefits them personally. I personally enjoy being the only softball played in the fall. The state tourny is very well attended by people that have little or no affiliation with the MAIS other than travel ball friends and such. Lots of jr college coaches and old Arrow usually shows up too!! We get the best umpires around. I think it "showcases" the MAIS girls much more than it would in the spring. And no I don't mean showcase for colleges. I just meant gives these girls their time in the spotlight better.
And the umpire issue in the spring would create havoc!
WildRebel45 wrote: Bottom line...
No matter what decision is made... some people are going to be unhappy, mostly because of their own personal beliefs and reasons.
Having coached at both a MHSAA and a MAIS school, I prefer the spring time... it just feels more like softball season to me. But I'm sure others feel differently. I totally agree! When I coached in the MAIS, I enjoyed the warmer weather of the fall, among other things... but I didn't like the thunderstorms, competing with high school and junior high football for scheduling, or the short time frame we had to play our sechedule. But to me, nothing compares to a Friday night game, in the crisp, cool winter/spring air. I loved those coaching public school ball.
No doubt that the move would cause umpire problems, which is the biggest problem I see with it.
No matter what decision is made, I hope it's made in the best interest of the girls and nothing else! I have 2 sons playing baseball in the spring and a DD playing softball in the fall. Many more rain outs in the spring than in the fall over the past 5 yrs. Just sayin...... |
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Posted: 1/16/2012 11:43 AM
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usnoozulooz wrote:
WildRebel45 wrote:
justplayhard wrote: True that most people are basing their decision on what benefits them personally. I personally enjoy being the only softball played in the fall. The state tourny is very well attended by people that have little or no affiliation with the MAIS other than travel ball friends and such. Lots of jr college coaches and old Arrow usually shows up too!! We get the best umpires around. I think it "showcases" the MAIS girls much more than it would in the spring. And no I don't mean showcase for colleges. I just meant gives these girls their time in the spotlight better.
And the umpire issue in the spring would create havoc!
WildRebel45 wrote: Bottom line...
No matter what decision is made... some people are going to be unhappy, mostly because of their own personal beliefs and reasons.
Having coached at both a MHSAA and a MAIS school, I prefer the spring time... it just feels more like softball season to me. But I'm sure others feel differently. I totally agree! When I coached in the MAIS, I enjoyed the warmer weather of the fall, among other things... but I didn't like the thunderstorms, competing with high school and junior high football for scheduling, or the short time frame we had to play our sechedule. But to me, nothing compares to a Friday night game, in the crisp, cool winter/spring air. I loved those coaching public school ball.
No doubt that the move would cause umpire problems, which is the biggest problem I see with it.
No matter what decision is made, I hope it's made in the best interest of the girls and nothing else! I have 2 sons playing baseball in the spring and a DD playing softball in the fall. Many more rain outs in the spring than in the fall over the past 5 yrs. Just sayin...... Well I was comparing the last four years, the first of those two being the MHSAA season and the last two being the MAIS season. I rescheduled more MAIS games due to rain outs than I did MHSAA games. |
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Posted: 1/16/2012 5:35 PM
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If they're not voting until the 26th, it won't give long to get ready for a spring season will it? |
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