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ODP tryouts?

Posted: 9/20/2012 6:21 AM

ODP tryouts? 


Does anybody know if ODP tryouts are still on for this Sunday, 23? at the Gulfport Sportplex? I hate to sign my kid up & pay the fee if they cancel it again like they did last week. Since the weather was crystal clear last week do you think the main reason they rend to cancel is due to low registration? Was wondering because most of the girls select teams will be in action this weekend in New Orleans for the large Gator Classic
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Posted: 9/20/2012 6:46 AM

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I had not heard that it was rescheduled.  My son wanted to go to the tryouts but this past weekend was the boy's weekend for the Gator Classic.  I had sent an email asking if there were any other tryout options as his team had tournaments on each weekend, and I was told that only those who paid ahead of the tryouts would be told when the make-up tryouts were.  We decided it seemed like it was more trouble than it was worth and just wrote the whole thing off.
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Posted: 9/20/2012 7:21 AM

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Things I'd recomend to do rather than going to a Mississippi ODP tryout with someone you care about:

Petting alligators in the wild
Unprotected 'relations' in a inner city crack house
Cleaning one's ears with knitting needles
Texting whilst driving blindfolded in Downtown Tokyo
Talking about UM's and MSU's football squad's alternative uniform combinations
Swimming off the Great Barrier Reef with the Australian Womens' Soccer team whilst they are all "on their time"

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Posted: 9/20/2012 1:50 PM

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Received this email today, perhaps changed due to the Gator tourny mentioned above:

Please click on the link below to register for the 2012-13 ODP Tryout. This year will be for kids born between 2002 and 1996 Boys and Girls. If you were in the Pool or Team last year you MUST register this year too.

If you can not make any of the 3 posted dates below, Do Not worry go ahead and register anyways as I will have make-up dates for those that miss the Try-out. However, only those pre-registered will get that email of the make-ups.

Sept 29 North - Oxford, MS
Sept 30 Central - NWRAA, Brandon, MS
Oct 21 South - Gulfport, MS

10am - 11.30am and 2pm to 3.30pm

If you are not an MSA Registered player click here to register first as MSA player before you register for Tryout with the link below. http://www.mississippisoccer.org/Top_Nav/Parents/D irect_Register_a_Player.htm


MSA players click here to register for Tryout:
https://www.gotsport.com/asp/application/reg/?Prog ramID=16057&Type=PLAYER


Thanks so much for your understanding.

Terry Eguaoje, Ed.D.
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Posted: 10/2/2012 5:34 AM

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dibervillefan wrote: Received this email today, perhaps changed due to the Gator tourny mentioned above:

Please click on the link below to register for the 2012-13 ODP Tryout. This year will be for kids born between 2002 and 1996 Boys and Girls. If you were in the Pool or Team last year you MUST register this year too.

If you can not make any of the 3 posted dates below, Do Not worry go ahead and register anyways as I will have make-up dates for those that miss the Try-out. However, only those pre-registered will get that email of the make-ups.

Sept 29 North - Oxford, MS
Sept 30 Central - NWRAA, Brandon, MS
Oct 21 South - Gulfport, MS

10am - 11.30am and 2pm to 3.30pm

If you are not an MSA Registered player click here to register first as MSA player before you register for Tryout with the link below. http://www.mississippisoccer.org/Top_Nav/Parents/D irect_Register_a_Player.htm


MSA players click here to register for Tryout:
https://www.gotsport.com/asp/application/reg/?Prog ramID=16057&Type=PLAYER


Thanks so much for your understanding.

Terry Eguaoje, Ed.D.

Most of GC United will be tied up at Premier League games on Oct 21. Do you think the odp tryouts will be cancelled again?
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Posted: 10/2/2012 7:14 AM

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I forgot one:
Licking motel carpet.
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Posted: 10/3/2012 11:52 PM

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carpet fibers -- isn't that the ingredient the kids are smoking nowdays ??
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Posted: 10/4/2012 5:44 AM

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The kids are alright.

I'd rather have a kid smoking carpet fibers than in MS ODP.

Kidding, just.
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Posted: 10/22/2012 2:16 PM

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Hate to say it but Miss ODP is a poor program that can't stack up. Don't waste your time.
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Posted: 10/22/2012 2:20 PM

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I agree with the licking carpet comment. It says a lot for a program where only 25 players show up from the entire state for a team.

Personally watched a GA ODP team totally crush a Miss team two years their senior. Guess what, they were slower and smaller. However they do things no coach in Miss is able or willing to teach; movement on and off the ball and passing....Novel concept.

Even watching this, the Miss coach continued the over the top to the "target"...sad.
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Posted: 10/22/2012 3:05 PM

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Well, I can't say I really know who does ODP now. As in who coaches it. Saying "no" coach in MS is willing to teach those things is false; I know of plenty of quality coaches I would want to play for if I were a kid and still able to do those things. I don't know whether they coach ODP, though, but I'd be willing to bet some do.

I haven't had anything to do with ODP since my one experience with it. And it was not a good one. But that was over 10 years ago, and I won't incorporate that into what is going on today- because I don't know. I know THEN, it was not run correctly and it wasn't a fair process. Which is sad.

I encourage people to try ODP for at least a year. I think it's an important program for our state. If something is wrong, PLEASE let people know about it so it can be fixed. Exposure-wise, it's extremely helpful. Not the end-all, be-all, but very helpful. Hope everyone has positive experiences with it.
Two things define a person: their patience when they have nothing and their attitude when they have everything.
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Posted: 10/22/2012 8:46 PM

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CEO, I usually agree with you but on this one I think you've got a swing and a miss. Having experienced a grossly wasted and frustrating year with Mississippi ODP at a not insignificant amount of time, money and effort, I can't second your view to give anyone (other than those directly associated with reactionary Islamic Fundamentalism or the Iranian nuclear program) the advice to try on a year of Mississippi ODP.

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Posted: 10/22/2012 10:44 PM

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I get you. I did not fund my try with it, and can certainly understand the money and time constraints when you don't feel like you get a lot of return.

My comment was that my experience with it was 12 years ago, and by looking at staff, I don't see a face I know besides MS's overall director, and he was not on staff when I had my go at it. I have no idea if they've changed or not. I hope that they have, because if it's anything like what I experienced, I'd never endorse it. Not ever. I'd say run the other way.

BUT, when done correctly, it is a tremendous asset to our state. The key is to do it correctly, which must be easier said than done. I don't see why, after 12 years, some progress towards a respectable program has not been made, but I wouldn't be shocked if it weren't. With that said, I do want it to one day be successful and afford the elite players in our state the opportunities they deserve.

I'd still advise one to talk to someone with more recent experience with it over me. My beef was valid about 7 years ago when pretty much the same crew was involved and the same rumblings were being heard.
Two things define a person: their patience when they have nothing and their attitude when they have everything.
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Posted: 10/22/2012 10:52 PM

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Eating beef off the the Jackson, Mississippi Alamo Plaza Motor Court carpet circa 1980 is preferrable. I get that we should support it as a state, but I've seen kids jobbed so badly it screwed up their motivation. All downside and little if any upside.
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Posted: 10/23/2012 5:25 AM

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CEO2044 wrote: 

I encourage people to try ODP for at least a year. I think it's an important program for our state. If something is wrong, PLEASE let people know about it so it can be fixed.
for one, build a freeway that connects the south directly to Jackson!   This last Sunday in Gulfport, only 9 girls(for all divisions) showed up!
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Posted: 10/23/2012 9:07 AM

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I find it sad that ODP is back to CACA, at one time ODP was a great thing for MS players and for variuos reasons it faded away. Then with a great group of 94's MS ODP was put back on the map and followed up buy a group of successful  95's , but during that time the State Director did all he could to  run his coaches that had been succesful for years away in bring in his choice coaches. (NOT saying that they are good)  He (the state) has also pissed alot of people on the club side off, which is where the ODP players come from and coaches and parents sadly disassociate themselves from extra soccer aka ODP.
I can say that it helped my son and many other kids I know in the recruiting process and to be seen , Region camp is basically just a college ID camp with numerous college coaches working as Region Staff.  With the academy teams formed the levels have gone down drastically and I really don't see ODP being around much longer but thats just my 2 cents.
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Posted: 10/23/2012 9:34 AM

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I am not involved with ODP anymore, but maybe i should be, because it seemed to work for me. when i was playing ODP was a great thing, but honestly (and i am not talking about anyone on here) alot of the people that didn't make it thought it was a waste of time. i was on the '83 state team, cecil was my coach. we did fairly well at the tournaments, two of us made the regional team my first year, Justin Mapp being one of them considering he was playing up a year. We both ended up going to national camp he then played for his national team and i played with mine. but i wouldn't have made it had not been for ODP. yes they're were college coaches as region coaches. but that is more of an opportunity for your players to get looked at. my question is (and don't bash me here because i honestly don't know), what has it turned into? are their just not enough people trying out?
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Posted: 10/23/2012 11:42 AM

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Here is the problem I saw with ODP. Basically, the process was political. All of the coaches we ran across seemed to have their players selected prior to the tryout. The training sessions they ran looked like those sessions they teach you to run in the E licence classes. It really was a joke. I am not saying that there were not quality players selected, but there definitely were quality players ommitted.  Don't forget that out of the entire state, they tryouts I witnessed had only 18, 20, 25 players in attendance for the sessions. (This is boys) I know there are a lot more boys plaing soccer in Miss. I hear the girls sessions might even be worse.
The coaches associated with the program need to realize it is not about them, but it is about the kids. Its a horribly run program. If you don't believe me, just watch some ODP teams from surrounding states. Maybe Miss needs to take a page from their playbook.
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Posted: 10/23/2012 12:20 PM

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Sippi wrote: I am not involved with ODP anymore, but maybe i should be, because it seemed to work for me. when i was playing ODP was a great thing, but honestly (and i am not talking about anyone on here) alot of the people that didn't make it thought it was a waste of time. i was on the '83 state team, cecil was my coach. we did fairly well at the tournaments, two of us made the regional team my first year, Justin Mapp being one of them considering he was playing up a year. We both ended up going to national camp he then played for his national team and i played with mine. but i wouldn't have made it had not been for ODP. yes they're were college coaches as region coaches. but that is more of an opportunity for your players to get looked at. my question is (and don't bash me here because i honestly don't know), what has it turned into? are their just not enough people trying out?


It may have come acroos wrong but, what was meant by the college coaches being Region staff  was that it was a great way for Ms players to be  seen by coaches that kids would not typically be seen by at local tournaments.

It was great for my son, although he didn't make it the first three years he stuck with it and made Regional pool then Regional team and traveled on the international trip.
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Posted: 10/23/2012 1:45 PM

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I agree that there needs to be more involvement with it, especially if there are only that many kids trying out. maybe it just needs more awareness and encouragement from parents and coaches to participate. ODP is a great thing and is the beginning to the national team! I don't know what we need to do in order to support this, but i would highly recommend it to anyone. Coaches should be in it for the players in ODP especially. its all about getting players seen. My coaches for ODP were Ryan Webb (my first few years) and cecil the rest. they pushed for us to be seen. for our training sessions the year we won the tournament with cecil, were intense. we had fitness in the mornings (starting about 3 weeks out of camp) at the stadium downtown, then field sessions in the afternoon. it was after regionals so we were on break from club. out of town players stayed with kids that lived in jackson. but that's what it takes to have a good team in order to compete with these other states and to improve as a player. so i don't know, maybe we need to encourage it more rather than discourage the program and get some quality coaches back in to it.
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