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Seeding/Private

Posted: 2/16/2013 11:18 PM

Seeding/Private 


#1 Greenforest
#2 St Francis
#3 Aquinas
#4 Athens Christian
#5 NCCS

That is as far as I have calculated so far
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Posted: 2/17/2013 5:52 PM

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Top 5 looks accurate and these are my thoughts for rest of the 16:

#6 WD Mohammed
#7 Excel Christian
#8 Calvary Day
#9 Landmark Christian
#10 Holy Innocents
#11 Whitefield
#12 Mt. Paran
#13 Mt. Pisgah
#14 Lakeview Academy
#15 Pace Academy
#16 Brookstone

Mt. Vernon misses out

Last edited 2/17/2013 9:09 PM by HypemanAtl

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Posted: 2/17/2013 6:27 PM

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It will be close between WA, HI, & Mt Paran for 10-12. I don't think Brookstone will make it.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 8:19 PM

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The fact that there are "private school seeding" and "public school seeding" topics on this thread is sad.

Miss the good ole days of 32 team competition. Now we have to sit around and guess seeds along with having two state champs. It's damn near ruined and not nearly as fun to talk about, watch, and appreciate IMO.

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Posted: 2/17/2013 8:47 PM

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What he said times 1000.....
BlueCrew70 wrote: The fact that there are "private school seeding" and "public school seeding" topics on this thread is sad.

Miss the good ole days of 32 team competition. Now we have to sit around and guess seeds along with having two state champs. It's damn near ruined and not nearly as fun to talk about, watch, and appreciate IMO.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 9:15 PM

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I agree as well to see the NCCS, Aquinas, Athens Chrstian, St. Francis, etc get to play Wilkinson, Wilco, Turner, etc would be great basketball
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Posted: 2/17/2013 10:59 PM

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Couldn't agree more... I hope the public schools are happy...
BlueCrew70 wrote: The fact that there are "private school seeding" and "public school seeding" topics on this thread is sad.

Miss the good ole days of 32 team competition. Now we have to sit around and guess seeds along with having two state champs. It's damn near ruined and not nearly as fun to talk about, watch, and appreciate IMO.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 7:25 AM

If only you would have played fair 


This would have never happened if the private schools would have chosen, or been forced to play by the same rules as the public schools.  Of course that would have been the right thing to do and you can't expect people/schools who think they are a cut above the common man to do the right thing now can we? wink

Oh, and I think the public schools are happy.  I know I am. biggrin

The Class A private school basketball championship is going to be just like the one in football: No one cared. bored1
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Posted: 2/18/2013 7:49 AM

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harvardblue wrote: This would have never happened if the private schools would have chosen, or been forced to play by the same rules as the public schools.  Of course that would have been the right thing to do and you can't expect people/schools who think they are a cut above the common man to do the right thing now can we? wink

Oh, and I think the public schools are happy.  I know I am. biggrin

The Class A private school basketball championship is going to be just like the one in football: No one cared. bored1
Yeah, whereas the Class A public school basketball championship is going to be a HUGE event.

Bitter much?
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Posted: 2/18/2013 7:58 AM

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Just stop while ur ahead..the "number one holier than thou overall seed in public" Wilkinson county got beat handily by aquinas..private school playoff stronger for sure.

Last edited 2/18/2013 7:59 AM by messiah12

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Posted: 2/18/2013 8:29 AM

Man please 


Kudos to Aquinas.  They were the better team that day.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 8:33 AM

Nope, not bitter at all 


Actually, like I said earlier, I'm ecstatic!excited

You don't hear any public school fans crying because of the change do you?  

Either way, I don't know how HUGE it will be but the difference will be obvious.  If you don't like it, do like Wesleyan: cut and run to AA.  wink
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Posted: 2/18/2013 8:35 AM

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I'm not crying, I love it! To know private school winner will be the true state champion makes me happy as well!
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Posted: 2/18/2013 9:24 AM

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I'm with harvardblue.  I'm happy to see the split.  Of course the private champ will most likely be stronger than the public champ, that was the whole argument.  When you have the resources available to you that some of the private schools have, you expect to "field" a much better team.  I'm just ready to take it to the next level:  go back to 5 classifications, evenly distributed except maybe  AAAAA and make it all public regions.  The only exception to that would be private schools that offer no tuition assistance.  They could play in the public league if so desired.  Then all private schools can lump into one classification regardless of size.  I mean, play the best you can right?  No argument was ever good enough that the publics made about an unfair advantage.  Maybe you guys would like Marist in the mix with the class A privates.  They always bring tough teams in football.  Not sure about basketball.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 9:28 AM

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Heavy c I like your idea, nobodys really brought that one up yet..let the power privates play on one region, and go back to to just A-AAAAA..both sides would be happy...and competitive.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 9:33 AM

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When I was in high school (I attended a Class A private school) I wanted to play the best competition, regardless of class or private or public.

Now the separation has taken away that thrill of competition. Teams this year and for the foreseeable future will be State Champ (A) and State Champ (B) and that wouldn't have sat well with me if I was still competing.

The state championships are diminished on both sides because of the separation.

The fact that their is another school out there my enrollment size that is claiming a championship wouldn't have been cool.

"You are the champ of the only private school league, congrats."

"You are the champ of only the public schools, congrats."

If posters on GAVSV don't have a problem with those two statements, than this board has changed so much in 10 years that I'm not sure it can be saved.

#BRINGBACKCLASSAHOOPS

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Posted: 2/18/2013 9:48 AM

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This argument has been settled by the GHSA in the best way they could figure out.  There is no doubt that the A publics are at a huge disadvantage vs. the metro Atlanta privates.  The solution of splitting, while not perfect, is the best that could be done.

BOTH championships will be somewhat diminished, but that's ok.  More kids, parents, fans and coaches will get to celebrate a championship; that's no less valid than the difference between the AAAAAA championship and the AAAAA championship; you can only beat the teams you play.

It would be nice, though, if the A public fans could recognize that the same exact problem of player movements is happening in the large publics as well, and to a MUCH greater extent.  We live, unfortunately, in an era of super teams.  It grows out of AAU and the rush for college exposure, and that works against the A publics.  It also works against everybody, public AND private, in the larger classifications, and against everybody, public and private, vs. the 30 or so city school systems in the state that take in out of district athletes.

Some of you are so obsessed with demonizing the private schools and the GHSA that you can't see the forest for the trees.  There are much, much bigger problems in Georgia high school athletics than the small private schools, and splitting Class A has done nothing to remedy those.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 10:48 AM

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I'd like to take credit, but it is how it is done in Tennessee, only they have two private school divisions based on size.  I remember when it was started it was a huge uproar but now, it's a non-issue.  The public and private schools can choose to play each other and often do, but the don't have to compete with the resources that a McCallie or Baylor out of Chattanooga or Brentwood Academy out of Nashville have.  Google these guys and look at the facilities and tradition they have.  It's pretty amazing.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 10:50 AM

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As soon as private schools drop tuition assistance, I'll be all about putting them back together.  Because basically the size of the school isn't the only measure to look at.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 10:58 AM

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bluedot wrote: 

BOTH championships will be somewhat diminished, but that's ok.  More kids, parents, fans and coaches will get to celebrate a championship; that's no less valid than the difference between the AAAAAA championship and the AAAAA championship; you can only beat the teams you play.

Why is that OK?

Split the Class AAAAAA state championships to schools from Atlanta and schools from outside the perimeter and tell me it's valid. Lesser competition, and having "more championships" to celebrate diminishes a championship as a whole, no matter how you look at it.

Its that same "everyone gets a trophy" hogwash in today's youth sports.

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