Hamster4141 wrote: Much of it is preperation for the pre-existing condition part. When a person can wait until they get sick to sign up for coverage, the insurance company loses money, which raises rates, and is eventually passed on to the people who pay for coverage. Rates continue to rise as it goes along. When politicians talk they say things they know the public wants to hear. Most of the media is pro democrat and have protected Obama all the way. He says, "I am going to help the poor and middle class by confiscating as much money from the rich that we possibly can." What people don't hear is that takes money from small business owners who create the most jobs, not just the filthy rich that do nothing (ex. hollywood big shots). He says, "everybody should pay their fair share in taxes. That sounds good, but how can EVERYBODY include more than 50% of the country that pay NOTHING at all? They don't hear that. If he was honest he would say that ONLY the rich should pay their fair share plus what 50% of people don't pay. We hear that the so called Bush tax cuts only helped the rich. It is true that the cuts only helped a minority segment of the population, but that segment is not the rich, it is the taxpayers. That's right we have reached a point where tax payers are a minority. He doesn't tell the voters that the reason the cuts didn't help the poor and much of the middle class is that more than 50% of workers get a refundable tax credit. If they were told the difference instead of being lied to by the liberals they would be happy they didn't get a tax cut. That would mean they had to give up their free money from things like the Earned Income Credit. I am a tax preparer and I have people all the time giving me a W-2 with income for the year of only 9,000, with no withholdings. Many of them have 3 or 4 kids, and up getting refunds of 3,4, even 5 thousand dollars. Now how is that FAIR? I actually hear people like that complaining that the Republican tax cuts don't help them. I ask people all the time how has the government, especially liberals actually helped the poor. It's ridiculous they get elected simply by saying, "The Republicans only think about the rich, and will take away your social security. You can be sure if this is not stopped the rising health care costs will be the least of our worries.

TrojanBlueMan03 wrote: about them talking about taking our guns. That sh%t will not happen though. Gun Ban

Hamster4141 wrote: Much of it is preperation for the pre-existing condition part. When a person can wait until they get sick to sign up for coverage, the insurance company loses money, which raises rates, and is eventually passed on to the people who pay for coverage. Rates continue to rise as it goes along. When politicians talk they say things they know the public wants to hear. Most of the media is pro democrat and have protected Obama all the way. He says, "I am going to help the poor and middle class by confiscating as much money from the rich that we possibly can." What people don't hear is that takes money from small business owners who create the most jobs, not just the filthy rich that do nothing (ex. hollywood big shots). He says, "everybody should pay their fair share in taxes. That sounds good, but how can EVERYBODY include more than 50% of the country that pay NOTHING at all? They don't hear that. If he was honest he would say that ONLY the rich should pay their fair share plus what 50% of people don't pay. We hear that the so called Bush tax cuts only helped the rich. It is true that the cuts only helped a minority segment of the population, but that segment is not the rich, it is the taxpayers. That's right we have reached a point where tax payers are a minority. He doesn't tell the voters that the reason the cuts didn't help the poor and much of the middle class is that more than 50% of workers get a refundable tax credit. If they were told the difference instead of being lied to by the liberals they would be happy they didn't get a tax cut. That would mean they had to give up their free money from things like the Earned Income Credit. I am a tax preparer and I have people all the time giving me a W-2 with income for the year of only 9,000, with no withholdings. Many of them have 3 or 4 kids, and up getting refunds of 3,4, even 5 thousand dollars. Now how is that FAIR? I actually hear people like that complaining that the Republican tax cuts don't help them. I ask people all the time how has the government, especially liberals actually helped the poor. It's ridiculous they get elected simply by saying, "The Republicans only think about the rich, and will take away your social security. You can be sure if this is not stopped the rising health care costs will be the least of our worries.

I agree with everything that you've said. My biggest concern is the seemingly unlimited spending. Enough taxes are being paid in IF we would cut the spending.
We have soooooo much wasted in government that we can never pay for it all.
I cannot understand how our "leadership" in Washington can continue to fund every "program" under the sun to help the "less fortunate". I'm always for feeding someone who is hungry but I'm against handouts to lazy asses and day cares at high schools....and that sort of thing.

Hamster4141 wrote: Thanks for that. I was about to apologize for the rant, because I try not to talk politics unless directly asked. I do want to say, in the interest of full disclosure, that my mistrust is in government period. I can get on the soapbox about the party that used to represent me well, and not just against liberals. I consider myself a conservative independant, and most always vote Republican, many times as the lesser of two evils. It's terrible that we sometimes have to vote for someone we barely agree with in some issues just because they are better than the alternative. Blue, I like alot about Ron Paul, but believe in this world today, his foreign policy is just too dangerous. Other than that I believe we are better off without so much government intrusion from any party. The biggest argument today is centered on ways to balance the budget, and hearing the word fair used the way it is, sounds like fingernails scratching a chalk board to me. To me fair is a place with rides and exhibits, and where pigs win ribbons. There is only one arena I want to hear the word fair, and that would be with the word tax after it; Fair Tax. It is the only way that taxes can be collected equitably across the board. It is the only way to insure that EVERYONE pays taxes, even those in the country illegally.The Fair Tax would bring back companies that moved their operations off-shore because they were being taxed to death by paying the largest corporate taxes in the world. It has been estimated that the Fair Tax alone would bring back around 13 TRILLION dollars in revenue, which would come much closer to paying off our debt than extra taxes on the so called 1 percent who are already paying most of the taxes collected. That is my hot button issue. Let people that work keep all of the money they earn, and spend it in a way that helps them more than the government can. The Fair Tax will make sure that the rich pay their fair share. Everybody will pay their fair share. Oops, I've done it again. This subject is like a drug to me. Believe it or not there are 2 subjects I like to discuss more. I'm going to try and not talk too much here from now on. Caneowar can tell you all that I can be too opinionated at times. Please don't read that as a knock on Cow. I meant that in a tongue and cheek way. Besides, it's the truth. I am too opinionated sometimes.

oldhornetlineman wrote: Why doesn't Obama set the example for us all and dismiss his assault weapon packing secret service team? I mean, if people don't need assault weapons, why is he surrounded by them?
McVeigh didn't fire a shot and killed 168 men,women, and kids. Crazy people will always find a way to be crazy.

TrojanBlueMan03 wrote: about them talking about taking our guns. That sh%t will not happen though. Gun Ban

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