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Blown Out At WKU

Posted: 1/18/2013 12:21 PM

Blown Out At WKU 


Cajuns lose big, one of the worst loses this year and many years! Makes me think we need at least one stud to make us a consistent high level competitor.

No doubt good teams can get blown away, but not too often.

I love the way these guys compete, and consider this just more evidence we need a few more players along with experience.

UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA

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Posted: 1/18/2013 12:35 PM

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Not having Mbamalu was probably a factor in the blowout.  Tough to play at the house of the most prominent team in the league without your most experienced guard.   Coach Marlin said open shots we had are tough to make for a freshman.   That just means they are not mentally tough enough.   A more experienced player has developed that toughness.   My concern is that these guys don't win a road game before the season ends.   No matter how many you win at home, you don't develop the confidence you need to improve the next season unless you have a little road success.    No one should reasonably expect us to win on Saturday as we are playing what may be the league's best team.  Hopefully, we play more competitively than we did last night.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 12:38 PM

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Shepherd is struggling mightily from the field. Without Mbamalou we are trying to win with two players.

One a soph, one a freshman. We need to improve quickly.

With that being said, I think Wronkoswki, Shepherd and Soto are nice players, but I don't see them as "difference makers"
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Posted: 1/18/2013 1:37 PM

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Hope you are wrong, Slappy.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 3:26 PM

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slappycajun wrote: Shepherd is struggling mightily from the field. Without Mbamalou we are trying to win with two players.

One a soph, one a freshman. We need to improve quickly.

With that being said, I think Wronkoswki, Shepherd and Soto are nice players, but I don't see them as "difference makers"

I know those 3 are Freshmen, but I see very little to get me excited. None of those guys are good shooters and unfortunately, they are being asked to play major minutes for this team. As we have seen with Mbamalu, guys can develop an outside game. Right now it looks like luck every time an outside shot goes in.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 4:00 PM

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I think Wronkowski is a good shooter. Jury is still out for me on Shepherd. I thin Soto is having trouble adjusting which could be due to the mid season add. He is definitely struggling defensively.

But, someone mentioned Mbamalou. He was very mediocre as a freshman, yet before his injury he was playing as good as any 2 guard in the league. So, I hope I am wrong too.

The good news is you don't need a team full of difference makers only two or three. I believe we have two of them in Payton and Long. I still believe if we sign the right guys in te spring and keep this team otherwise in tact we could see a huge improvement next year.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 10:02 PM

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I  love EP but not a real difference maker till he can hit the 3!!!! and it reeaally is a shame since he can penetrate as well as anybody I have seen in a long time--I am not  talking Bo Mac from UNO but more of a slasher type---Well you know what I mean---how do you teach shooting????lol  For that matter how about FTs????
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Posted: 1/18/2013 10:04 PM

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Soto is not a good college shooter now, but just like Mbamalu he will be with time.   I say this because his stroke looks good in the home games when he squares up.   I don't think Wronkowski will ever be and Shepherd's shot almost has too much arc for major improvement to occur.  That does not mean they can't contribute in other ways.  Again,  I don't expect to see much different than what we have seen from those guys this season.  Major individual improvement often comes from work players put in over the summer.  Payton is an example of that.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 10:55 AM

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It is a shame we have to play these guys instead of giving them a redshirt year.

Payton will have only one year with a full compliment of players if that.

UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA

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Posted: 1/19/2013 10:58 AM

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I  love EP but not a real difference maker till he can hit the 3!!!! and it reeaally is a shame since he can penetrate as well as anybody I have seen in a long time--I am not  talking Bo Mac from UNO but more of a slasher type---Well you know what I mean---how do you teach shooting????lol  For that matter how about FTs????

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EP gained so much this season. If he gets better by 25% he will have a chance to play NBA ball.

UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA

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Posted: 1/19/2013 1:19 PM

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CajunHeat wrote:

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--- exflash wrote:

I  love EP but not a real difference maker till he can hit the 3!!!! and it reeaally is a shame since he can penetrate as well as anybody I have seen in a long time--I am not  talking Bo Mac from UNO but more of a slasher type---Well you know what I mean---how do you teach shooting????lol  For that matter how about FTs????

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EP gained so much this season. If he gets better by 25% he will have a chance to play NBA ball.
RESPECTIVELY DISAGREE and hope that I am wrong!!! Speed, size, and obviously shooting (both jumper and 3 pointers) just not there!!!!
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Posted: 1/19/2013 3:12 PM

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CajunHeat wrote:

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--- exflash wrote:

I  love EP but not a real difference maker till he can hit the 3!!!! and it reeaally is a shame since he can penetrate as well as anybody I have seen in a long time--I am not  talking Bo Mac from UNO but more of a slasher type---Well you know what I mean---how do you teach shooting????lol  For that matter how about FTs????

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EP gained so much this season. If he gets better by 25% he will have a chance to play NBA ball.

WHAT? Aaron Mitchell was a better athlete, taller, better shooter, better passer, and better defender. He did not sniff the NBA. No one on are team will play in the NBA.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:47 AM

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EP will not make the NBA, but if he were on the team with Mithell he would likely have been better than Mitchell.

E is averaging 5 apg this year and no one he plays with can score. He is probably our best PG since Mitchell.

And , Boomet it's interesting you said EP wasn't a difference maker. Your opinion is not shared by coaches in the league. If he never shoots another 3, he could be an all conference guard if we put guys around him who can make shots.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:50 AM

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Also, too early to say whether Long can or cannot make the NBA.

He is 6'9 and very skilled, not a lotbofgyys like that. Plus, he is only a Freshman.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:42 AM

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slappycajun wrote: EP will not make the NBA, but if he were on the team with Mithell he would likely have been better than Mitchell.

E is averaging 5 apg this year and no one he plays with can score. He is probably our best PG since Mitchell.

And , Boomet it's interesting you said EP wasn't a difference maker. Your opinion is not shared by coaches in the league. If he never shoots another 3, he could be an all conference guard if we put guys around him who can make shots.
Again I love EP for his court presence and he does all the things that a point should with the exception of real speed and quickness---think he knows how to run the game plan ---But the DIFFERENCE in his making the pros is that all good point guards can do what he does plus shoot the 3 and the driving jump shot----I have seen him on occasion hit the runner in the lane which is impressive with his height!!!
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:51 AM

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Aaaah. Boom. I misunderstood you. I thought you were talking about a difference-maker in the college game.

I agree unless you are a freak of nature, like Rajon Rondo, you have to be able to hit a jumper reliably to play in the pros.

That is what kept both Orien Greene and Dwayne Mitchell out of the NBA.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 6:44 AM

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Aron Mitchell?  Not a better athlete.  Last I checked EP should have been playing high school ball last year, and this year he would be a true freshman.  His shooting has improve by hundreds of percents and his free throw shooting are back to high medium quality.  Again let it play out.  He is so long and rangy, he also has something Mitchell did not have, and that is basketball IQ which is why he is such a strong stealer, and rebounder.
MetryCajun wrote:
CajunHeat wrote:

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--- exflash wrote:

I  love EP but not a real difference maker till he can hit the 3!!!! and it reeaally is a shame since he can penetrate as well as anybody I have seen in a long time--I am not  talking Bo Mac from UNO but more of a slasher type---Well you know what I mean---how do you teach shooting????lol  For that matter how about FTs????

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EP gained so much this season. If he gets better by 25% he will have a chance to play NBA ball.

WHAT? Aaron Mitchell was a better athlete, taller, better shooter, better passer, and better defender. He did not sniff the NBA. No one on are team will play in the NBA.

UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA

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Posted: 1/21/2013 7:23 AM

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Improvement in Payton and Mbamalu is why there is hope for the future.  This is evidence the staff can help players get better.   We have  many young guys that will be able to take advantage of that guidance moving forward.   However,   bringing in more inside players is critical to true improvement.  The staff knows that and they will bring in some guys for those roles.    Quality of the guys they bring in is something we won't know until next fall.

Last edited 1/21/2013 3:30 PM by cajunsmike

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Posted: 1/21/2013 1:52 PM

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slappycajun wrote: Aaaah. Boom. I misunderstood you. I thought you were talking about a difference-maker in the college game.

I agree unless you are a freak of nature, like Rajon Rondo, you have to be able to hit a jumper reliably to play in the pros.

That is what kept both Orien Greene and Dwayne Mitchell out of the NBA.
And I completely agree--Just seems like guys could learn to shoot--what the hell is it----I remember Dr Bollin called jays show one time and said at Singer HS it was nothing for him to hit 98 out of 100 free throws every day---I was a terrible shot-but cross eyed dominant and no strength!!!
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