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Liberal Massachusetts third in child health and well being

Posted: 8/17/2011 2:47 AM

Liberal Massachusetts third in child health and well being 




"New Hampshire was first in the overall child well-being rankings, followed by Minnesota. Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, Arkansas and New Mexico ranked lowest."

I guess liberals really do care more than conservatives.

Last edited 8/17/2011 2:49 AM by temery

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Posted: 8/17/2011 7:28 AM

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...Massachusetts finishes in tenth place for highest Cost of Government Day in 2011. The Cost of Government Day measures the calendar date by which the average American paid off his/her share of spending and regulatory burdens on all levels of governments: federal, state and local.

 

Massachusetts taxpayers must work 227 days out of the year to pay for state, local, and their share of federal of government spending and regulations.

 

Additionally, a heavier tax burden has been laid upon taxpayers in the last decade. From 2002 to 2011, Massachusetts taxpayers were saddled with an additional tax burden of $1,285.40 for each man, woman, and child – a cumulative tax increase of $8.52 billion. In fact, for the past two fiscal years, the government has increased state taxes. Together, state and local taxes compose roughly 10 percent of all income earned.

 

When Governor Deval Patrick signed the FY2011 budget into law, he promised to cut government spending, but the promise only amounted to increasing the debt at a slightly slower rate of 0.2 percent while spending increased 6 percent during the FY2011 year. Massachusetts’s high Cost of Government is a result of federal taxation on a high income state in combination with bloated state budgets.
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Posted: 8/17/2011 7:48 AM

You get what you pay for ... 



I guess those little red state children aren't worth saving for extra bucks.

BTW - Massachusetts works longer to help pay some of the Red state bill. We are a donor state.
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...Massachusetts finishes in tenth place for highest Cost of Government Day in 2011. The Cost of Government Day measures the calendar date by which the average American paid off his/her share of spending and regulatory burdens on all levels of governments: federal, state and local.

 

Massachusetts taxpayers must work 227 days out of the year to pay for state, local, and their share of federal of government spending and regulations.

 

Additionally, a heavier tax burden has been laid upon taxpayers in the last decade. From 2002 to 2011, Massachusetts taxpayers were saddled with an additional tax burden of $1,285.40 for each man, woman, and child – a cumulative tax increase of $8.52 billion. In fact, for the past two fiscal years, the government has increased state taxes. Together, state and local taxes compose roughly 10 percent of all income earned.

 

When Governor Deval Patrick signed the FY2011 budget into law, he promised to cut government spending, but the promise only amounted to increasing the debt at a slightly slower rate of 0.2 percent while spending increased 6 percent during the FY2011 year. Massachusetts’s high Cost of Government is a result of federal taxation on a high income state in combination with bloated state budgets.

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Posted: 8/17/2011 8:13 AM

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Red state children probably don't need all the extra cost. They are much more well adjusted.
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I guess those little red state children aren't worth saving for extra bucks.

BTW - Massachusetts works longer to help pay some of the Red state bill. We are a donor state.
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...Massachusetts finishes in tenth place for highest Cost of Government Day in 2011. The Cost of Government Day measures the calendar date by which the average American paid off his/her share of spending and regulatory burdens on all levels of governments: federal, state and local.

 

Massachusetts taxpayers must work 227 days out of the year to pay for state, local, and their share of federal of government spending and regulations.

 

Additionally, a heavier tax burden has been laid upon taxpayers in the last decade. From 2002 to 2011, Massachusetts taxpayers were saddled with an additional tax burden of $1,285.40 for each man, woman, and child – a cumulative tax increase of $8.52 billion. In fact, for the past two fiscal years, the government has increased state taxes. Together, state and local taxes compose roughly 10 percent of all income earned.

 

When Governor Deval Patrick signed the FY2011 budget into law, he promised to cut government spending, but the promise only amounted to increasing the debt at a slightly slower rate of 0.2 percent while spending increased 6 percent during the FY2011 year. Massachusetts’s high Cost of Government is a result of federal taxation on a high income state in combination with bloated state budgets.

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Posted: 8/17/2011 8:39 AM

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meyers wrote:
Red state children probably don't need all the extra cost. They are much more well adjusted.
Highly doubtful from what I see around me. Keep trying though.
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Posted: 8/17/2011 8:40 AM

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meyers wrote:
Red state children probably don't need all the extra cost. They are much more well adjusted.
LOL
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Posted: 8/17/2011 11:02 AM

Re: Liberal Massachusetts third in child health and well being 


... clearly Harvard, Tufts, BU, and even UMass associated major research and teaching hospitals play no role in attract respected medical skill sets to the Bay State, or the Mayo Clinic, U of M, and associated facilities never attract  similarly well respected capabilities to the Twin Cities and other locations in the Land of Lakes ...
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Posted: 8/17/2011 11:14 AM

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And much more likely to be the victim of a violent crime, pregnant, a high school drop out, living in poverty, less healthy, and have limited access to health care ...

But lower taxes are more important, so it is all good.
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Red state children probably don't need all the extra cost. They are much more well adjusted.
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I guess those little red state children aren't worth saving for extra bucks.

BTW - Massachusetts works longer to help pay some of the Red state bill. We are a donor state.
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...Massachusetts finishes in tenth place for highest Cost of Government Day in 2011. The Cost of Government Day measures the calendar date by which the average American paid off his/her share of spending and regulatory burdens on all levels of governments: federal, state and local.

 

Massachusetts taxpayers must work 227 days out of the year to pay for state, local, and their share of federal of government spending and regulations.

 

Additionally, a heavier tax burden has been laid upon taxpayers in the last decade. From 2002 to 2011, Massachusetts taxpayers were saddled with an additional tax burden of $1,285.40 for each man, woman, and child – a cumulative tax increase of $8.52 billion. In fact, for the past two fiscal years, the government has increased state taxes. Together, state and local taxes compose roughly 10 percent of all income earned.

 

When Governor Deval Patrick signed the FY2011 budget into law, he promised to cut government spending, but the promise only amounted to increasing the debt at a slightly slower rate of 0.2 percent while spending increased 6 percent during the FY2011 year. Massachusetts’s high Cost of Government is a result of federal taxation on a high income state in combination with bloated state budgets.

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Posted: 8/17/2011 5:30 PM

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So pay more in taxes if you are feeling liberal guilt Tom. No one is stopping you. Same goes for anyone else who wants to pay more, be my guest.


temery wrote: And much more likely to be the victim of a violent crime, pregnant, a high school drop out, living in poverty, less healthy, and have limited access to health care ...

But lower taxes are more important, so it is all good.
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Red state children probably don't need all the extra cost. They are much more well adjusted.
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--- temery wrote:


I guess those little red state children aren't worth saving for extra bucks.

BTW - Massachusetts works longer to help pay some of the Red state bill. We are a donor state.
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--- aluminny69 wrote:

...Massachusetts finishes in tenth place for highest Cost of Government Day in 2011. The Cost of Government Day measures the calendar date by which the average American paid off his/her share of spending and regulatory burdens on all levels of governments: federal, state and local.



Massachusetts taxpayers must work 227 days out of the year to pay for state, local, and their share of federal of government spending and regulations.



Additionally, a heavier tax burden has been laid upon taxpayers in the last decade. From 2002 to 2011, Massachusetts taxpayers were saddled with an additional tax burden of $1,285.40 for each man, woman, and child – a cumulative tax increase of $8.52 billion. In fact, for the past two fiscal years, the government has increased state taxes. Together, state and local taxes compose roughly 10 percent of all income earned.



When Governor Deval Patrick signed the FY2011 budget into law, he promised to cut government spending, but the promise only amounted to increasing the debt at a slightly slower rate of 0.2 percent while spending increased 6 percent during the FY2011 year. Massachusetts’s high Cost of Government is a result of federal taxation on a high income state in combination with bloated state budgets.

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Posted: 8/17/2011 7:47 PM

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I do. I live in Massachusetts. I love the fact that my state does right by our children.
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So pay more in taxes if you are feeling liberal guilt Tom. No one is stopping you. Same goes for anyone else who wants to pay more, be my guest.


temery wrote: And much more likely to be the victim of a violent crime, pregnant, a high school drop out, living in poverty, less healthy, and have limited access to health care ...

But lower taxes are more important, so it is all good.
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--- meyers wrote:


Red state children probably don't need all the extra cost. They are much more well adjusted.
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--- temery wrote:


I guess those little red state children aren't worth saving for extra bucks.

BTW - Massachusetts works longer to help pay some of the Red state bill. We are a donor state.
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--- aluminny69 wrote:

...Massachusetts finishes in tenth place for highest Cost of Government Day in 2011. The Cost of Government Day measures the calendar date by which the average American paid off his/her share of spending and regulatory burdens on all levels of governments: federal, state and local.



Massachusetts taxpayers must work 227 days out of the year to pay for state, local, and their share of federal of government spending and regulations.



Additionally, a heavier tax burden has been laid upon taxpayers in the last decade. From 2002 to 2011, Massachusetts taxpayers were saddled with an additional tax burden of $1,285.40 for each man, woman, and child – a cumulative tax increase of $8.52 billion. In fact, for the past two fiscal years, the government has increased state taxes. Together, state and local taxes compose roughly 10 percent of all income earned.



When Governor Deval Patrick signed the FY2011 budget into law, he promised to cut government spending, but the promise only amounted to increasing the debt at a slightly slower rate of 0.2 percent while spending increased 6 percent during the FY2011 year. Massachusetts’s high Cost of Government is a result of federal taxation on a high income state in combination with bloated state budgets.

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Posted: 8/19/2011 8:57 AM

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From the kids I know in the Red states and the kids I know in the Blue states, your doubts are unfounded.

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<blockquote dir="ltr"><strong>meyers wrote:</strong>
Red state children probably don't need all the extra cost. They are much more well adjusted.
</blockquote>Highly doubtful from what I see around me. Keep trying though.

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Posted: 8/19/2011 8:58 AM

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I do too, and I would have much rather had my kids raised in a Red state.

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I do. I live in Massachusetts. I love the fact that my state does right by our children.
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--- uconnbill wrote:

So pay more in taxes if you are feeling liberal guilt Tom. No one is stopping you. Same goes for anyone else who wants to pay more, be my guest.


<blockquote dir="ltr" ><b>temery wrote:</b> And much more likely to be the victim of a violent crime, pregnant, a high school drop out, living in poverty, less healthy, and have limited access to health care ...

But lower taxes are more important, so it is all good.
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--- meyers wrote:


Red state children probably don't need all the extra cost. They are much more well adjusted.
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--- temery wrote:


I guess those little red state children aren't worth saving for extra bucks.

BTW - Massachusetts works longer to help pay some of the Red state bill. We are a donor state.
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--- aluminny69 wrote:

...Massachusetts finishes in tenth place for highest Cost of Government Day in 2011. The Cost of Government Day measures the calendar date by which the average American paid off his/her share of spending and regulatory burdens on all levels of governments: federal, state and local.



Massachusetts taxpayers must work 227 days out of the year to pay for state, local, and their share of federal of government spending and regulations.



Additionally, a heavier tax burden has been laid upon taxpayers in the last decade. From 2002 to 2011, Massachusetts taxpayers were saddled with an additional tax burden of $1,285.40 for each man, woman, and child – a cumulative tax increase of $8.52 billion. In fact, for the past two fiscal years, the government has increased state taxes. Together, state and local taxes compose roughly 10 percent of all income earned.



When Governor Deval Patrick signed the FY2011 budget into law, he promised to cut government spending, but the promise only amounted to increasing the debt at a slightly slower rate of 0.2 percent while spending increased 6 percent during the FY2011 year. Massachusetts’s high Cost of Government is a result of federal taxation on a high income state in combination with bloated state budgets.

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Posted: 8/19/2011 9:03 AM

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meyers wrote: From the kids I know in the Red states and the kids I know in the Blue states, your doubts are unfounded.

I have three kids in school and see TONS of kids in my red state that are not so well adjusted.
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Posted: 8/19/2011 9:27 AM

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And yet you didn't move to a red state.
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I do too, and I would have much rather had my kids raised in a Red state.

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--- temery wrote:


I do. I live in Massachusetts. I love the fact that my state does right by our children.
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--- uconnbill wrote:

So pay more in taxes if you are feeling liberal guilt Tom. No one is stopping you. Same goes for anyone else who wants to pay more, be my guest.


temery wrote: And much more likely to be the victim of a violent crime, pregnant, a high school drop out, living in poverty, less healthy, and have limited access to health care ...

But lower taxes are more important, so it is all good.
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--- meyers wrote:


Red state children probably don't need all the extra cost. They are much more well adjusted.
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--- temery wrote:


I guess those little red state children aren't worth saving for extra bucks.

BTW - Massachusetts works longer to help pay some of the Red state bill. We are a donor state.
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--- aluminny69 wrote:

...Massachusetts finishes in tenth place for highest Cost of Government Day in 2011. The Cost of Government Day measures the calendar date by which the average American paid off his/her share of spending and regulatory burdens on all levels of governments: federal, state and local.



Massachusetts taxpayers must work 227 days out of the year to pay for state, local, and their share of federal of government spending and regulations.



Additionally, a heavier tax burden has been laid upon taxpayers in the last decade. From 2002 to 2011, Massachusetts taxpayers were saddled with an additional tax burden of $1,285.40 for each man, woman, and child – a cumulative tax increase of $8.52 billion. In fact, for the past two fiscal years, the government has increased state taxes. Together, state and local taxes compose roughly 10 percent of all income earned.



When Governor Deval Patrick signed the FY2011 budget into law, he promised to cut government spending, but the promise only amounted to increasing the debt at a slightly slower rate of 0.2 percent while spending increased 6 percent during the FY2011 year. Massachusetts’s high Cost of Government is a result of federal taxation on a high income state in combination with bloated state budgets.

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Posted: 8/19/2011 3:54 PM

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Nope, too many other factors involved. Lot's of times we don't get what we prefer.

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And yet you didn't move to a red state.
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--- meyers wrote:

I do too, and I would have much rather had my kids raised in a Red state.

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--- temery wrote:


I do. I live in Massachusetts. I love the fact that my state does right by our children.
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--- uconnbill wrote:

So pay more in taxes if you are feeling liberal guilt Tom. No one is stopping you. Same goes for anyone else who wants to pay more, be my guest.


<blockquote dir="ltr" ><b>temery wrote:</b> And much more likely to be the victim of a violent crime, pregnant, a high school drop out, living in poverty, less healthy, and have limited access to health care ...

But lower taxes are more important, so it is all good.
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--- meyers wrote:


Red state children probably don't need all the extra cost. They are much more well adjusted.
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--- temery wrote:


I guess those little red state children aren't worth saving for extra bucks.

BTW - Massachusetts works longer to help pay some of the Red state bill. We are a donor state.
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--- aluminny69 wrote:

...Massachusetts finishes in tenth place for highest Cost of Government Day in 2011. The Cost of Government Day measures the calendar date by which the average American paid off his/her share of spending and regulatory burdens on all levels of governments: federal, state and local.



Massachusetts taxpayers must work 227 days out of the year to pay for state, local, and their share of federal of government spending and regulations.



Additionally, a heavier tax burden has been laid upon taxpayers in the last decade. From 2002 to 2011, Massachusetts taxpayers were saddled with an additional tax burden of $1,285.40 for each man, woman, and child – a cumulative tax increase of $8.52 billion. In fact, for the past two fiscal years, the government has increased state taxes. Together, state and local taxes compose roughly 10 percent of all income earned.



When Governor Deval Patrick signed the FY2011 budget into law, he promised to cut government spending, but the promise only amounted to increasing the debt at a slightly slower rate of 0.2 percent while spending increased 6 percent during the FY2011 year. Massachusetts’s high Cost of Government is a result of federal taxation on a high income state in combination with bloated state budgets.

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Posted: 8/20/2011 11:51 AM

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What is it about red states you think would be a better place to raise a child.
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Nope, too many other factors involved. Lot's of times we don't get what we prefer.

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And yet you didn't move to a red state.
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--- meyers wrote:

I do too, and I would have much rather had my kids raised in a Red state.

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--- temery wrote:


I do. I live in Massachusetts. I love the fact that my state does right by our children.
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--- uconnbill wrote:

So pay more in taxes if you are feeling liberal guilt Tom. No one is stopping you. Same goes for anyone else who wants to pay more, be my guest.


temery wrote: And much more likely to be the victim of a violent crime, pregnant, a high school drop out, living in poverty, less healthy, and have limited access to health care ...

But lower taxes are more important, so it is all good.
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--- meyers wrote:


Red state children probably don't need all the extra cost. They are much more well adjusted.
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--- temery wrote:


I guess those little red state children aren't worth saving for extra bucks.

BTW - Massachusetts works longer to help pay some of the Red state bill. We are a donor state.
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--- aluminny69 wrote:

...Massachusetts finishes in tenth place for highest Cost of Government Day in 2011. The Cost of Government Day measures the calendar date by which the average American paid off his/her share of spending and regulatory burdens on all levels of governments: federal, state and local.



Massachusetts taxpayers must work 227 days out of the year to pay for state, local, and their share of federal of government spending and regulations.



Additionally, a heavier tax burden has been laid upon taxpayers in the last decade. From 2002 to 2011, Massachusetts taxpayers were saddled with an additional tax burden of $1,285.40 for each man, woman, and child – a cumulative tax increase of $8.52 billion. In fact, for the past two fiscal years, the government has increased state taxes. Together, state and local taxes compose roughly 10 percent of all income earned.



When Governor Deval Patrick signed the FY2011 budget into law, he promised to cut government spending, but the promise only amounted to increasing the debt at a slightly slower rate of 0.2 percent while spending increased 6 percent during the FY2011 year. Massachusetts’s high Cost of Government is a result of federal taxation on a high income state in combination with bloated state budgets.

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Posted: 8/23/2011 8:50 AM

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Sorry, screen is getting to busy to do the quote thing.

Why do I think the Red states are better for raising a child? Well one it would be my child, not just any child.

The people are much nicer, kinder, friendlier. Less judgemental. More positive outlook on life, simplier life, happier. Less neurosis. May not have as much opportunity as afforded in Blue states, but people seem more content.
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Posted: 8/23/2011 9:20 AM

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meyers wrote: The people are much nicer, kinder, friendlier. Less judgemental.
I  wish there was a laughing rolling smiley on this board. Less judgemental, sure thing. Come on down to the South and see for yourself. As long as you are a white, conservative, straight,  baptist, you're good. But other than that they never judge you. rolleyes
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Posted: 8/25/2011 7:18 AM

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I've lived in the south, though it's been quite a few years. I still found it much better than these blue (particularly NE) states. Granted some of them were still waiting for the south to rise again.

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<blockquote dir="ltr"><strong>meyers wrote:</strong> The people are much nicer, kinder, friendlier. Less judgemental.</blockquote>I  wish there was a laughing rolling smiley on this board. Less judgemental, sure thing. Come on down to the South and see for yourself. As long as you are a white, conservative, straight,  baptist, you're good. But other than that they never judge you. <img border="0" src="media.scout.com/media/forums/e...leyes.gif" alt="rolleyes" />

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Posted: 8/25/2011 7:33 AM

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I was born, and live in the south. Friendly wasn't the adjective I'd use to desrcibe the people. As an adult I have visited the south, and things have changed for the better. Even with that, I wouldn't say the south would be a good place for a average person to raise children.
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I've lived in the south, though it's been quite a few years. I still found it much better than these blue (particularly NE) states. Granted some of them were still waiting for the south to rise again.

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meyers wrote: The people are much nicer, kinder, friendlier. Less judgemental.
I  wish there was a laughing rolling smiley on this board. Less judgemental, sure thing. Come on down to the South and see for yourself. As long as you are a white, conservative, straight,  baptist, you're good. But other than that they never judge you. media.scout.com/media/forums/e...leyes.gif" alt="rolleyes" />

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Posted: 8/25/2011 1:56 PM

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Really? I have found the people in the south to be the most friendly. Even more than the midwest. I think living outside of the NE would be better for almost everyone at least from a friendly people perspective.

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I was born, and live in the south. Friendly wasn't the adjective I'd use to desrcibe the people. As an adult I have visited the south, and things have changed for the better. Even with that, I wouldn't say the south would be a good place for a average person to raise children.
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Posted: 8/25/2011 5:32 PM

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The numbers don't lie. One of my favorite politicians was Daniel Patrick Moynahan. He once said the best predictor of a child's success is his/her proximity to Canada.


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Really? I have found the people in the south to be the most friendly. Even more than the midwest. I think living outside of the NE would be better for almost everyone at least from a friendly people perspective.

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I was born, and live in the south. Friendly wasn't the adjective I'd use to desrcibe the people. As an adult I have visited the south, and things have changed for the better. Even with that, I wouldn't say the south would be a good place for a average person to raise children.
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