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l6ozbud wrote: "A month ago I would have given this hire an A..."Stop right there. Nothing credible to the contrary has happened in the last month.Hey raider, let me pose a serious question to you: What will KK need to accomplish to appease the Tech fanbase? Leach never won a Big 12 championship and he is revered in those parts. So what's KK have to do? Consistently win 7 or 8 games? Will the fact that he's a homer give him a free pass for awhile? If so, how long?
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BCSBearcats wrote: I wonder if Stewie Mandel will change that when Tubs is 12-0 and Kingbury is 7-5?
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Teakwood wrote: If I understood correctly, there were 23 injuries for Tech this year, plus the last two years had some of the highest rated recruiting classes in school history. If Tech gets healthy and the rest mature I'd say Tubs set KK up for a solid season...should be a lot of excitement in Lubbock and I'd look for better than 7 wins. I predict a few years time will provide some perspective and many will come around to respect what TT did for the program...even if he wasn't a good personality fit.With the players he's bringing in, I'm feelin pretty good about where we sit right now, conference crap notwithstanding, so don't worry about us.
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seaTTleR8r wrote: Teakwood wrote: If I understood correctly, there were 23 injuries for Tech this year, plus the last two years had some of the highest rated recruiting classes in school history. If Tech gets healthy and the rest mature I'd say Tubs set KK up for a solid season...should be a lot of excitement in Lubbock and I'd look for better than 7 wins. I predict a few years time will provide some perspective and many will come around to respect what TT did for the program...even if he wasn't a good personality fit.With the players he's bringing in, I'm feelin pretty good about where we sit right now, conference crap notwithstanding, so don't worry about us. Boy he's already got you guys sippin the injury kool aid...In 2009 Mike Leach had injuries (as in multiple) to his two (2!) starting QBs (his single most valued position on the field) and managed to get the team to finish 9-4, ranked, and in a much tougher Big XII than Tubs has seen. So the injury talks are just so meaningless to this Red Raider.That said, I think Steward Mandel is right about the hire grades. I'm sorry, I just agree with it. Without touching on a single controversy that has been alleged by the media, recruits, or fans about Tommy Tuberville, allow me to explain:He does not coach at all, which is fine. He is the big ideas guy who focuses elsewhere and gives his assistants a ton of responsibility. That's great. His DC is a DC, not just in title only. Same for his OC. If that works up there then great. But IMO he needs guys with experience. Kauffman did an OK job, but his previous DC hires were absolute (and that's no hypberbole) disasters. One is back to being a DBs coach at his old job (begged for it) and the other is out of football entirely. But you guys are fine with Kauffman, believe me. He did well. Now.... your offense? My. God. I would be extremely worried if I were you guys... He did not hire an OC and if there is anything Tuberville doesn't get it's offense. He went out and brought in one of his Auburn buddies who has not ever called a play in his coaching career, has never worked across the board offensively, just focused his niche as a runningbacks coach for 17 years. So you might worry about the passing game, right? Well, Tubs goes out and gets a "passing game coordinator" who's very green in comparison (in tenure). Tuberville does not like passing the ball, and when he does it's in the most conservative manner and situations possible. He is a no risk guy despite his ironic title of "Riverboat Gambler". Your offensive staff and HC will be torn and that passing consultant (or whatever it's called) will be handcuffed as will your QB. So controversies aside, he absolutely deserves a C hire. And I feel that grade is generous to say the least. I'm sorry. And if this winds up being my last post here, then so be it. But I prefer to provide any information any Bearcat desires from someone who watched him closely for 3 years. Thanks.
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CardinalX3 wrote: I will try and respond in a straightforward manner...1. I don't comprehend (at all) why TTech fans feel the need to come to UC message boards (all of 'em) to try and convince us you are happy. Very, very strange behavior in my life's experience. Do you guys call your ex-girlfriend's/ex-wife's lover to tell him what a piece of trash he got?Maybe if you will take my wife, we can test this hypothesis Over and over? Odd. It is the off-season...and I actually enjoy talking to other team's fans. 2. Your AD is a rookie. I say that sincerely. I watched his presser the day Tubberville left (that Saturday) and it was embarrassing. He was a complete deer in the headlights. Among the things he said; 1) he had never spoken with CTT's agent (really? WOW! What kind of AD would have not...in 2 years...spoken with the agent of the most important employee in his department?), 2) he had no idea who might be on his short list for a new coach (contrast with our AD who had a list developed months before), 3) he indicated at that time that he and CTT had been talking and that he had no idea this could happen and that there were just general conversations about how to move the program forward (contrasted to a month later when he spits out that he had basically put him on notice...which I find hard to believe a month later, but prolly makes him...the AD...sound better to the fans...but let me inform you in case you didn't figure it out yet, your AD isn't very smart), 4) He didn't return a phone call from another school trying to hire his coach because he was at his child's soccer game (dereliction of duty at best). There were other things...these are the highlights. I imagine the truth of all that transpired lies somewhere in the middle of what you have heard and what we have heard.3. This writer (I am familiar with him) is an idiot. He knows nothing about college recruiting...nothing at all. Sadder for him, he doesn't know what he doesn't know. Sadder yet for fans who read him...many of them accept his take on recruiting as fact. Sadder for you, you (yourself) cannot sift through the BS and you bought it. Saddest of all, because of knuckleheads like him, parents who read this stuff will enter recruiting of their own sons and daughters thinking this is an anomaly rather than having their eyes wide open to the fact that it is par for the course. Journalistic malpractice on Stewie's part. What a moron.It is a fluff piece rating coaching hires...not a recruiting piece...it was an entertaining read...4. I am happy with our hire. We are now getting visits and commits better than we've ever had in a short time. I am happy for you too...you got a coach you believe in. Having watched him interviewed in your bowl game though, I thought he was more like Gomer Pyle than a college football coach. But whatever...I hope it works out for you. I am happy for your hire as well...and happy for Tech's hire. Without even one snap of the football he has done something that Tuberville was unable to do in 3 years and that is pretty much unite the fan base. Tuberville would have been able to if he would have been able to win...Don't drink the media kool aid. Don't join the moron pool. Separate yourself. If you don't, you look like the same fool that Stewie is. You can hate CTT all you want, but don't spew stupid $hit like this idiot did. You will have no credibility with anyone who knows better. If you actually read what seattle said above...that actually makes more sense than what stew said. I say this even though seattle can be rather abrasive even on our home board.
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Cataclysmo wrote: I believe we went 10-3 one year using 5 QB's. Not impressive, system offense.
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This is the weirdest fan bunch that i have ever seen. I have no inclination at all to go over to the Tennessee board and talk about Lyle. They are like the obsessive exgirlfriend fanbase.
Posted: 1/15/2013 7:55 PM
rosewater wrote:This is the weirdest fan bunch that i have ever seen. I have no inclination at all to go over to the Tennessee board and talk about Lyle. They are like the obsessive exgirlfriend fanbase.