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Losing a ton of kids on D.

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Posted: 2/17/2013 5:18 PM

Losing a ton of kids on D. 


That's why we see the juco kids and I love em too.  I think we improve.  The D line kids, corners and RB's coming in are just what we need imo.  I am excited watching each ones videos.  23 sacks.   We had several red shirt freshman and soph too.  I am sure some will step up and into positions.   It starts with D and looks to me like we have the makings of a good one.

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Posted: 2/17/2013 6:24 PM

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I agree completely. We had to get deeper and more experienced on D and the Jucos do that. I am concerned with our big uglies at DT, but this staff needs time. Hoping Mitchell and the Glenville kid grow up quick and get some much needed reps. Overall we took some strides forward with this class.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 6:54 PM

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By my count we lose 6 starters on D: Giordano, Frey, Bomar, Cheatham, Mills and then Chris Williams at Nickel. We had to play a ton of guys on D this year due to injuries which will help us next year. Mouhon played a ton after Stewart went down and Mills really was just a stop gap but got abused most of the time. Frey missed two games and Williams battled injuries which allowed Adrian Witty and Kevin Brown to play a bunch. With Drane's injury Trenier Orr played a lot as well. Levi Payne also played in every game as well. 

The JUCOs were necessary to push the younger guys for playing time and even if they don't start from day one will provide nice depth. We definitely need guys to step up on the DL. Beard is the one who really needs to take a big jump. Brandon Mitchell and Alex Pace also need to step up and fill spots in the rotation.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 11:04 PM

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We do lose a lot on D, but enough guys played, that I am somewhat optimistic on the unit. Plus, the JUCO segment of this class filled the holes pretty effectively.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 7:39 AM

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Thanks for breaking down the D kids who need to step up.  They'll need time to gel and there will be changes along with a learning curve but they took duke with 6 coaches so with a full compliment I'm looking for good things to happen.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 9:47 AM

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Looks like we added some size and speed in the secondary with this recruiting class. We tended to give up too much yardage last year on intermediate and long routes, so I think this is a big improvement.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 11:22 AM

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UrsidaeFeline wrote: Looks like we added some size and speed in the secondary with this recruiting class. We tended to give up too much yardage last year on intermediate and long routes, so I think this is a big improvement.

After Stewart went down we stopped being able to get any pressure on the QB with the front 4. We had to resort to blitzing which worked at times but also burnt us at times. To put it in perspective, Stewart played 5 games and tallied 5 sacks. That was tied for the team lead with Dan Giordano who started in all 13 games at the other DE spot. Brandon Mills who played in all 13 games and started the final 8 games in place of Stewart, had 1 (yes ONE) sack the entire season.  And that was against Delaware St.

If we can get more pressure on the QB it will help out our secondary a ton.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 12:16 PM

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jonsmith wrote:
UrsidaeFeline wrote: Looks like we added some size and speed in the secondary with this recruiting class. We tended to give up too much yardage last year on intermediate and long routes, so I think this is a big improvement.

After Stewart went down we stopped being able to get any pressure on the QB with the front 4. We had to resort to blitzing which worked at times but also burnt us at times. To put it in perspective, Stewart played 5 games and tallied 5 sacks. That was tied for the team lead with Dan Giordano who started in all 13 games at the other DE spot. Brandon Mills who played in all 13 games and started the final 8 games in place of Stewart, had 1 (yes ONE) sack the entire season.  And that was against Delaware St.

If we can get more pressure on the QB it will help out our secondary a ton.
No doubt the front 4 played a huge role in giving up those plays. If you give a quarterback enough time, someone will eventually get open. Still, TT seems to be bringing in defensive backs that have a good combo of speed and size, and that should help us out a lot.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 1:00 PM

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Also worth noting that Kaufman has no desire to blitz LBS. He wants pressure on the edge from his DE not from bringing an extra player so there is going to be a much bigger weight put on the front four being productive IMO. And it wouldnt surprise me if alot of guys who under the previous regime thought they would get to play DE, are moved inside to see what they can do under CTT and Kaufman
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Posted: 2/18/2013 8:34 PM

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Jerrel Jordan was a beast off the edge in Juco. He's listed as a LB but I'd bet he will play DE. They like bigger corners because they will be playing alot of bump & run on passing plays especially against teams with smaller receivers.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 9:19 PM

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Guys were commenting right away on the change in defensive back/corner philosophy from one of smaller kids to what TT brought in with size and speed. agreed.  Seems Speed and Size are going to go together more so than not under Tuberville.
UrsidaeFeline wrote: Looks like we added some size and speed in the secondary with this recruiting class. We tended to give up too much yardage last year on intermediate and long routes, so I think this is a big improvement.
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