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Posted: 2/5/2013 1:42 PM

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...recruit from the GCL as far as I can tell.  mad

None from Colerain either.

This needs to be corrected in future years.
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Posted: 2/5/2013 1:54 PM

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Maybe you are right Cardinal, but I am beyond getting bent out of shape over it.

Good news was Sprecht's reaction to the CTT hire. Sounds like MAYBE we can start winning converts among the HS coaches. Emphasis on maybe.

This year, everything was far too late.
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Posted: 2/5/2013 2:00 PM

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Maybe the Massilon coach scared them away?  tongue
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Posted: 2/5/2013 2:36 PM

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CardinalX3 wrote: Maybe the Massilon coach scared them away?  tongue


ICYM  http://www.oregonlive.com/beav...wn_after_a.html
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Posted: 2/5/2013 2:48 PM

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CardinalX3 wrote: ...recruit from the GCL as far as I can tell.  mad

None from Colerain either.

This needs to be corrected in future years.
The GCL was extremely weak this year in terms of quality prospects and Colerain only had Wiesman. All things considered I think Wiesman was the best prospect by far out of Colearin and the combined GCL-S schools this year. Watkins at Moeller was the only real quality guy in the GCL-South in my opinion.
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Posted: 2/5/2013 2:49 PM

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CardinalX3 wrote: ...recruit from the GCL as far as I can tell.  mad

None from Colerain either.

This needs to be corrected in future years.
The GCL was extremely weak this year in terms of quality prospects and Colerain only had Wiesman. All things considered I think Wiesman was the best prospect by far out of Colearin and the combined GCL-S schools this year. Watkins at Moeller was the only real quality guy in the GCL-South in my opinion.
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Posted: 2/5/2013 2:52 PM

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The GCL overall was weak this year in terms of quality prospects and Colerain only had one in Wiesman. Out of the 5 schools combined Wiesman was the best prospect by far and well UC did have him at one time. I think Shane Jones at Moeller is extremely overated. Watkins at Moe is the best overall prospect out of the GCL-South this year.
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Posted: 2/5/2013 3:56 PM

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This snippet from the linked article above frosts my shorts.  Where the hell is Dan Patrick now?

In the months between Kempt's commitment and Jones' hiring, coaches at Cincinnati had talked with Kempt about Jones potentially getting plucked out of Ohio by a BCS school. If it happened, the plan was for Kempt to go with Jones. But that's not how it worked out.

"I found out on Twitter that he was going to Tennessee," Kempt says. "Jones hasn't talked to me since he left."



As he headed south, Jones was heard hollering "Hasta lasagna, don't get any on ya Kempt!"  Lyle screwed the kid over, not Cincinnati.

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Posted: 2/5/2013 4:03 PM

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I've wondered in the past about the future of the GCL.  The west side is quickly becoming less Catholic, and Price Hill is in serious decline.  All those German Catholics keep moving farther and farther out and will become less attached to the neighborhood. 

 

Mt. Airy near LaSalle is in the same boat, but to a much lesser extent.

 

St. Xavier is an island, though its academic reputation keeps it attractive. 

 

Only Moeller sits in a stable neighborhood.

 

Will the changing demographics and the high cost of private school education cause the decline in the quality of high school football in the GCL and in Cincinnati as a whole?

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Posted: 2/5/2013 4:25 PM

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5 out of the past 12 Ohio state champion teams were from the GCL. One "down" year for the GCL does not have me worried about the quality of the GCL. Heck even in this "down year" Moeller still won state.

Good grade school football talent still finds it's way to the GCL and then the GCL develops it. There will always be scholarships available for those students who want a GCL high school experience and can't afford it.

LaSalle still draws a ton of kids from Saint James White Oak, Saint Ignatius, etc. even though it's near Mt. Airy. I don't think most people view the area around LaSalle as anything other than middle class.

Elder draws the sons of its alums and other young men that live in Bridgetown, Cleves, Delhi, Westwood, etc. They bleed purple and always will. The neighborhood is sketchy but has been for 20 years. It's not detering those who want to go to Elder from attending there.

St. X and Moeller still draw well. No problems there.

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Posted: 2/5/2013 4:39 PM

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Perhaps the GCL isn't recruiting as well as they used to.confused
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Posted: 2/5/2013 4:53 PM

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Overall the talent locally just wasn't up to par this year.
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Posted: 2/5/2013 5:20 PM

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l6ozbud wrote: This snippet from the linked article above frosts my shorts.  Where the hell is Dan Patrick now?

In the months between Kempt's commitment and Jones' hiring, coaches at Cincinnati had talked with Kempt about Jones potentially getting plucked out of Ohio by a BCS school. If it happened, the plan was for Kempt to go with Jones. But that's not how it worked out.

"I found out on Twitter that he was going to Tennessee," Kempt says. "Jones hasn't talked to me since he left."



As he headed south, Jones was heard hollering "Hasta lasagna, don't get any on ya Kempt!"  Lyle screwed the kid over, not Cincinnati.
Yup.  Saw that too and wondered exactly the same thing. 

On top of that, if the kid had a "plan" to follow Lyle wherever he went...then the kid and his HS coach...do not have one reason to complain when the expected safety net wasn't there when they reached back to it.

The more the story comes out, the more clear it is that the Massilon coach is an a$$.

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Posted: 2/5/2013 5:38 PM

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Really the Cincinnati area as a whole was down this year. Shane Jones was the lone 4 star I think. I'm really glad that we were able to hang on to Rasheen Jones. Think he's going to be a very good player for us eventually. I would like to see us have more success in the Dayton area, however. Tuberville did say that he planned to get the majority of our recruits from within a 200 mile radius. The 2014 class will test that.
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Posted: 2/5/2013 7:00 PM

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I don't really look at it from the standpoint of the talent being down this year in the area. Our area is usually overlooked by the major scouting services and the talent is usually underrated every year, anyway.
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Posted: 2/5/2013 9:34 PM

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CardinalX3 wrote:
l6ozbud wrote: This snippet from the linked article above frosts my shorts.  Where the hell is Dan Patrick now?

In the months between Kempt's commitment and Jones' hiring, coaches at Cincinnati had talked with Kempt about Jones potentially getting plucked out of Ohio by a BCS school. If it happened, the plan was for Kempt to go with Jones. But that's not how it worked out.

"I found out on Twitter that he was going to Tennessee," Kempt says. "Jones hasn't talked to me since he left."



As he headed south, Jones was heard hollering "Hasta lasagna, don't get any on ya Kempt!"  Lyle screwed the kid over, not Cincinnati.
Yup.  Saw that too and wondered exactly the same thing. 

On top of that, if the kid had a "plan" to follow Lyle wherever he went...then the kid and his HS coach...do not have one reason to complain when the expected safety net wasn't there when they reached back to it.

The more the story comes out, the more clear it is that the Massilon coach is an a$$.
I wonder if Lyle retained the coaches he had lying to Kempt??
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Posted: 2/5/2013 9:53 PM

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Lol come on dudes, ya can't have a cincy kid in the running to win ROY or some sort of praises in the NFL every damn year. Every time I look at Good Players, they are from here in the Queen City. Ebb and flow I spose.

I agree neighborhoods ....demographics changed and thus different styles of players and teams but kids come from all over to the GCL schools. All over. Agree on Moeller also. And the island that Xavier is. Good job.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 12:04 AM

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This class will the fewest Ohio kids ever since Scout has been keeping track of the commits to UC--- three.   Not three kids from Cincinnati--- three from an entire state that usually produces 175+ FBS level athletes. 

I'll give the staff props, they played to their strength and recruited what they know.  They had one hand tied behind their back with the late start after a coaching defection, conference uncertainty, badmouthing from the press and a coach up in Massillon and other things I am sure I am not completely privy to. 

Like Lemmi noted above, as long as the players can play I don't care where they come from.   However, there is a big part of me that hopes we see high caliber local recruits sign on the dotted line here for the ensuing years.
 
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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:26 AM

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How about Jones LB from Northwest and Flick from Hamilton.....cool
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Posted: 2/6/2013 7:46 AM

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mptnstrat44 wrote:

5 out of the past 12 Ohio state champion teams were from the GCL. One "down" year for the GCL does not have me worried about the quality of the GCL. Heck even in this "down year" Moeller still won state.

Good grade school football talent still finds it's way to the GCL and then the GCL develops it. There will always be scholarships available for those students who want a GCL high school experience and can't afford it.

LaSalle still draws a ton of kids from Saint James White Oak, Saint Ignatius, etc. even though it's near Mt. Airy. I don't think most people view the area around LaSalle as anything other than middle class.

Elder draws the sons of its alums and other young men that live in Bridgetown, Cleves, Delhi, Westwood, etc. They bleed purple and always will. The neighborhood is sketchy but has been for 20 years. It's not detering those who want to go to Elder from attending there.

St. X and Moeller still draw well. No problems there.



LaSalle is the only one struggling. Their enrollment is way down and they are moving to Division 2 and that is with them having by far the most voucher kids out of all the GCL-South schools.

Elder's enrollment is fine. They are right there with Moeller. They are still at 1000 and that is without accepting vouchers like the other 3 GCL-South schools do to pad their enrollment numbers (although Moeller and St X both have tight restrictions on the voucher kids they accept.
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