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Tuberville Updates us on Recruiting

Posted: 1/7/2013 2:47 PM

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General comments, obviously he can't talk about individuals.

Tuberville on UC’s recruiting:

We’ll have four to five true mid-year players this week coming in to start school.
I think we have around 12 guys right now that are committed to us that will sign in February. 
We’re probably around eight to 10 guys that we want to make sure we get on right now that haven’t been recruited by the previous staff.
We’ve been able to hold onto most of the (oral commitments) from the previous staff.

“The biggest thing right now is evaluations.
We have 200 guys we’re looking at that are interested in us.
We’ll break that down to 25 or 30, bring in some for official visits.”

More here- http://cincinnati.com/blogs/uc...b-son-joins-uc/

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Posted: 1/7/2013 3:04 PM

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Tuberville means business as far as recruiting is concerned.  Hopefully his name provides us with some recruiting continuity if we are unable to find a safe landing in an established conference in the near future.  In his short time here he's made Lyle (and arguably BK) look like a child as far as recruiting is concerned.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 3:13 PM

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Posted: 1/7/2013 3:36 PM

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digibrink wrote: It's not all good news:

http://fridaynightohio.com/news/sunday-special-cin cinnati-massillon-staffs-not-getting-along
There are so many missing pieces in this story.  Firstly, Kempt didnt stand firm on his commitment to UC after the regime change and said so publically including via twitter.  He hardly gave the impression that he was locked into UC and their engineering program.  And if the kid doesnt kit with TT and Gran, does Coach Hall want them to lie to Kyle only to have him find out he wasted eligibility at UC two years down the road when he isnt getting reps?  Its also worth remembering that KK had an offer from UT prior to CBJ's arrival which has apparently been taken off the table by the new staff in Knoxville so some of this TT anger seems misplaced. 

This whole thing sounds more like a kid/HS coach jumping back into the game of musical chairs and is now upset that he is left without a chair, when he had multiple chairs previously.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 3:40 PM

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that's unfortunate about Kyle Kempt. I was really looking forward to having him behind center... but c'est la vie!

I wish him the best of luck and I am confident that TT will improve relationships in Massilon and hopefully in-town with schools like Moeller, St. X, Elder, La Salle, Walnut Hills, Wyoming, Colerain, Middletown, etc.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 3:45 PM

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According to this, he decommitted from UC on 12/17:
http://recruiting.scout.com/a....%2f1250138.html

and on 12/10 it said he was keeping option open based on Lyle's departure:
http://recruiting.scout.com/a....%2f1248100.html

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Posted: 1/7/2013 3:47 PM

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Incredibly foolish for this HS coach to go public in an article like that.  Whether he's right or wrong...he WILL cut off options for future players.  Really, really foolish.

One of my baseball sons played for a guy that I think is the best HS baseball coach in America.  Really I do.  They won a mythical national championship in 2010 and there have been dozens, if not hundreds, of former players who went onto to college ball at all levels...and on in pro ball as well.  This coach, never...and I mean NEVER...cut off relationships with college coaches.  Oh, he told us some of this thoughts privately as the recruiting process evolved, but he is a VERY smart man who never closed doors for any of his players.

What a complete moron this HS football coach in Massilon appears to be.  Cut off his nose to spite his face.  Cut off the 2nd biggest college football program in his state...to temporarily win an argument in his own mind.  Complete and total idiot.  Wow.  banghead

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Posted: 1/7/2013 4:21 PM

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Could be Tommy does not believe Kempt is all that good and has someone he believes is better lined up. Who knows, for now it seems like a he said/she said thing.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 4:30 PM

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CardinalX3 wrote: Incredibly foolish for this HS coach to go public in an article like that.  Whether he's right or wrong...he WILL cut off options for future players.  Really, really foolish.

One of my baseball sons played for a guy that I think is the best HS baseball coach in America.  Really I do.  They won a mythical national championship in 2010 and there have been dozens, if not hundreds, of former players who went onto to college ball at all levels...and on in pro ball as well.  This coach, never...and I mean NEVER...cut off relationships with college coaches.  Oh, he told us some of this thoughts privately as the recruiting process evolved, but he is a VERY smart man who never closed doors for any of his players.

What a complete moron this HS football coach in Massilon appears to be.  Cut off his nose to spite his face.  Cut off the 2nd biggest college football program in his state...to temporarily win an argument in his own mind.  Complete and total idiot.  Wow.  banghead

Completely agree. Recruiting is supposed to be about these kids finding a school that they feel comfortable with and where they would be happy. This coach is making it all about his own ego. He could be preventing his players from going to college and receiving an education just because one of his players got caught in the cracks...
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Posted: 1/7/2013 5:12 PM

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ronbcat wrote: Could be Tommy does not believe Kempt is all that good and has someone he believes is better lined up. Who knows, for now it seems like a he said/she said thing.
Or he's seen the young guys that we already have on the team and figured the spot was better spent on a different position. It's hard to tell what was said between the two sides, but I have to believe that if Kempt really wanted to come here and UC pulled the offer, the stories in the immediate aftermath would have reflected that.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 5:17 PM

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Didn't want to talk down about KK while he was committed, but Lyle was in the minority in his evaluation of the kid. Many thought he was overrated and not a high level D-1 player. Apparently TT had his reservations. Still, the kid decommitted very early in the transition and should have waited until things shook out. Kind of painted himself into a corner and may end up in a less then desirable school situation. Smart kid, engineering at UC is among the best, but he made a mistake here I'm afraid. Coach coming off as an arse.


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Could be Tommy does not believe Kempt is all that good and has someone he believes is better lined up. Who knows, for now it seems like a he said/she said thing.

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Posted: 1/7/2013 6:54 PM

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I thought Kempt would have been a very good addition to the UC program. 

Kempt on 12/7/12, a day before anyone knew TT would be the next coach at UC sent out tapes to multiple schools and began planning his visits. You can't place the blame on TT. The young man even before TT was hired began looking at other programs and while it wasn't an official decommit on 12/7/12, it was de facto in nature.

I think the Massilon high school coach should pay closer attention to the facts and timelines in lieu of arbitrarily protecting one of his players and getting his panties in a bunch because one of his players decommitted from a program and subsequently discovered his options might not be what they were previous to decommitting. You can't expect any school to remain stagnant during a recruiting period.  Programs will move on to another option if players are not fully committed.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 8:38 PM

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The HS coach committed representative malpractice. What is it with Ohio HS football coaches? They seem to make themselves the most important parameter in the recruiting equation (Rodenberg, etc...). Arrogant a-holes. He thinks he's standing up for his player but he just cut off the second biggest program in his state.

Sorry Coach, but the college holds more cards than you do.

Complete idiot.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 11:09 PM

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CardinalX3 wrote: The HS coach committed representative malpractice. What is it with Ohio HS football coaches? They seem to make themselves the most important parameter in the recruiting equation (Rodenberg, etc...). Arrogant a-holes. He thinks he's standing up for his player but he just cut off the second biggest program in his state.

Sorry Coach, but the college holds more cards than you do.

Complete idiot.
Did you notice how he referred to himself in the third person?  That should tell you everything you need to know.

I'm quite certain he doesn't realize how ridiculous he sounds.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 11:50 PM

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I guess he is trying to circle the wagon around his kid..
But it was his quarterback who in a very public way dropped his commitment.
Perhaps he wanted to change his mind and come back in.... Who knows.
But after going out in the media and opening up his recruiting again he loses his right to be mad if we take another player and his spot dries up.

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Posted: 1/8/2013 9:06 AM

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It seems like too many of these kids treat recruiting like a one way street. Once they've received a couple offers, they can committ to one school, but keep visiting other schools, then open their recruitment back up, and expect all the schools to just sit around and wait for them to make their decision...
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Posted: 1/8/2013 11:11 AM

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The Colerain coach did the same thing to Charlie Strong and Louisville. Bolden says as long as he is there Lville is not welcom at Colerain
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Posted: 1/8/2013 11:32 AM

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CraigHawley4Three wrote: The Colerain coach did the same thing to Charlie Strong and Louisville. Bolden says as long as he is there Lville is not welcom at Colerain
I think these high school coaches really believe in their little hearts they are protecting their kids, but they are failing to look past the interests of one kid for the sake of countless kids down the road.  If Kempt REALLY wants to go to school at UC, he should contact Tuberville without the interference from his high school coach and see where he really stands.  Does a high school AD and administration really permit a football coach to represent the school this way?
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Posted: 1/8/2013 11:39 AM

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^^^^
Exactly right!
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Posted: 1/8/2013 11:50 AM

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l6ozbud wrote:
CraigHawley4Three wrote: The Colerain coach did the same thing to Charlie Strong and Louisville. Bolden says as long as he is there Lville is not welcom at Colerain
I think these high school coaches really believe in their little hearts they are protecting their kids, but they are failing to look past the interests of one kid for the sake of countless kids down the road.  If Kempt REALLY wants to go to school at UC, he should contact Tuberville without the interference from his high school coach and see where he really stands.  Does a high school AD and administration really permit a football coach to represent the school this way?

The situation at Louisville was at least a little bit different. Strong offered Dukes a scholarship and he accepted early in the process. Then, a couple weeks before signing day Strong pulled Dukes' offer because he was running out of room and had some higher rated guys he wanted to sign. At least in our case, there was a wholesale coaching staff change. And we still aren't sure what happened.  I thought I recalled Tuberville indicating he would honor existing scholarship offers. The article referenced even indicates that it's not clear whether his offer was pulled or if Kempt just de-committed.
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