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  • redzoneblitz
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Posted: 12/16/2012 5:54 PM

Big Ten? 


Caught it and thought I'd post it. 

http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa...more-expansion/
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Posted: 12/16/2012 6:01 PM

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Thanks for the info, but that guy has no idea what he is talking about or is just trying to
drive some eyes to his site.  

UC will NEVER be in the B10.  Too much overlap in markets, OSU would not want them in etc etc.  

I will put $$$ UC will be invited to the Pac12 before B10.

Last edited 12/16/2012 6:03 PM by bearcat29

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Posted: 12/16/2012 6:18 PM

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Thanks for posting Blitz.

I'll have some of what that blogger is having! I'll just believe it's true and put myself in a better mood - LMFAO!
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Posted: 12/16/2012 7:35 PM

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Thanks for the info, but that guy has no idea what he is talking about or is just trying to
drive some eyes to his site.  

UC will NEVER be in the B10.  Too much overlap in markets, OSU would not want them in etc etc.  

I will put $$$ UC will be invited to the Pac12 before B10.

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I wouldn't go that far,, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Thanks for posting it though.
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Posted: 12/16/2012 8:35 PM

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Ohio State will never let this happen.
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Posted: 12/16/2012 9:09 PM

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Ohio State will never let this happen.

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Most toxic relationship in the U.S. between two primary state universities.

You're right, it will never happen.
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Posted: 12/16/2012 9:36 PM

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Card, I'm asking this out of all honesty (and perhaps naivety), mostly out of not having lived in Ohio for more than 20 years.  Is there really toxicity beyond the die hard fan bases?  If so, my guess is that it's simply limited to athletics, but I'm not even sure if that's the case.  The only people I speak with who work at or graduated from either university talk about the other with a matter-of-fact attitude (ie. I was at Ohio State for a game or UC for a performance).  I do know - from this board and others - that there are hard feelings between fan bases, but does it really extend beyond that?  

CardinalX3 wrote:

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Ohio State will never let this happen.

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Most toxic relationship in the U.S. between two primary state universities.

You're right, it will never happen.
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Posted: 12/16/2012 9:41 PM

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Yes, even Xavier fans have come around to hating osu. If you live in Cincy it is hard not to hate everything that is Columbus.
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Card, I'm asking this out of all honesty (and perhaps naivety), mostly out of not having lived in Ohio for more than 20 years.  Is there really toxicity beyond the die hard fan bases?  If so, my guess is that it's simply limited to athletics, but I'm not even sure if that's the case.  The only people I speak with who work at or graduated from either university talk about the other with a matter-of-fact attitude (ie. I was at Ohio State for a game or UC for a performance).  I do know - from this board and others - that there are hard feelings between fan bases, but does it really extend beyond that?  

CardinalX3 wrote:

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Ohio State will never let this happen.

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Most toxic relationship in the U.S. between two primary state universities.

You're right, it will never happen.


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Posted: 12/16/2012 9:51 PM

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Fair question

I just cannot think of any other state where what is considered the main(?) university goes so far as to not schedule the other main university under nearly any circumstance. Occasional football game...I guess...sort of...but nothing really in basketball for 50 years. Given the basketball tradition at both schools that seems crazy to me.

UK vs. UL used to be that way, but not for a while.

And correct me if I'm wrong but my memory says that The Shoe was limited in capacity at the time of appropriations to make sure that it was at least 100 or 1,000 seats below St. John's Arena.

In terms of fan base, I guess I don't really know of any real animosity except the occasional message board troll. I really have no issue with OSU as I never really think about them at all.

You're a good man cbuck...have always been fair and a fan of both schools...a fan of "Ohio" as am I.
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Posted: 12/16/2012 9:53 PM

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There was some tension during the Huggs era about recruiting.  UC fans have a lot of disdain for Big State's obnoxious t-shirt fans.  They are usually pretty rude, loud and have never set foot on campus.

Also, big state using state funds to expand their stadium then putting it in that no other college stadium can be expanded using state funds.

Mostly its the t-shirt fans for me.  I usually have no problem with alums.
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Posted: 12/16/2012 10:13 PM

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coloradobuck wrote: Card, I'm asking this out of all honesty (and perhaps naivety), mostly out of not having lived in Ohio for more than 20 years.  Is there really toxicity beyond the die hard fan bases?  If so, my guess is that it's simply limited to athletics, but I'm not even sure if that's the case.  The only people I speak with who work at or graduated from either university talk about the other with a matter-of-fact attitude (ie. I was at Ohio State for a game or UC for a performance).  I do know - from this board and others - that there are hard feelings between fan bases, but does it really extend beyond that?  

CardinalX3 wrote:

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Ohio State will never let this happen.

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Most toxic relationship in the U.S. between two primary state universities.

You're right, it will never happen.

Let's put it this way: the Governor of Ohio in the State of the State address last year praised Dr. Gordon Gee 14 times. He never once mentioned the University of Cincinnati.  Right now UC's future (and potentially the economy of SWO) hangs by a thread-- where has the Governor been in all this talk of realignment and UC being shut out?
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Posted: 12/16/2012 10:20 PM

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UC is not an AAU member which is a Big 10 must.
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Posted: 12/16/2012 10:27 PM

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One more thing regarding the state of Ohio and toxicity:  how is it one of the most populous states with one of the largest number of high school players who play FBS football will only have 1 team in a power conference while other less populous states with a small number of FBS recruits have 2-3 schools?  Indiana has three schools, Iowa has two schools, Washington has two schools, Mississippi has two schools.... heck, North Carolina has four schools.
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Posted: 12/16/2012 10:33 PM

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You nailed it. No school has ever been invited to the B10 that wasnt a member of the AAU at the time. Only Nebraska currently isnt a member and almost lost their membership to the B10 when they were kicked out of the AAU.

Cinci will end up in the ACC. When it comes down to it, the B10 and SEC will take 2 more schools to get to 16. The B12 doesnt have a network and therefore has no need to go to 16 unless they can get PRIME teams....so I see them only taking 2 to get to a championship game.

 

At that point, the ACC will have 8 teams left...which I would guess will be Boston College, Pitt, Cuse, Wake, Duke, UNC, Lville and Miami....

The ACC will then add Uconn, Cinci, Temple and USF to get back to 12...you may see a push for Navy but I cant see who #14 would be unles ND joined (which wont happen)

ronbcat wrote: UC is not an AAU member which is a Big 10 must.
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Posted: 12/16/2012 10:39 PM

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CliftonAve wrote:
coloradobuck wrote: Card, I'm asking this out of all honesty (and perhaps naivety), mostly out of not having lived in Ohio for more than 20 years.  Is there really toxicity beyond the die hard fan bases?  If so, my guess is that it's simply limited to athletics, but I'm not even sure if that's the case.  The only people I speak with who work at or graduated from either university talk about the other with a matter-of-fact attitude (ie. I was at Ohio State for a game or UC for a performance).  I do know - from this board and others - that there are hard feelings between fan bases, but does it really extend beyond that?  

CardinalX3 wrote:

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--- bstraub wrote:

Ohio State will never let this happen.

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Most toxic relationship in the U.S. between two primary state universities.

You're right, it will never happen.

Let's put it this way: the Governor of Ohio in the State of the State address last year praised Dr. Gordon Gee 14 times. He never once mentioned the University of Cincinnati.  Right now UC's future (and potentially the economy of SWO) hangs by a thread-- where has the Governor been in all this talk of realignment and UC being shut out?
Dramatic, much? To insinuate the future of UC and of SWO's economy is currently hanging by a thread is absurd.
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Posted: 12/16/2012 10:46 PM

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ronbcat wrote: UC is not an AAU member which is a Big 10 must.

I'm sure that 12 schools in particular saw to it that UC did not get the nod a couple months ago (when Boston U got in).
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Posted: 12/16/2012 10:50 PM

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UCLemmiwinks wrote:
ronbcat wrote: UC is not an AAU member which is a Big 10 must.

I'm sure that 12 schools in particular saw to it that UC did not get the nod a couple months ago (when Boston U got in).
UC certainly qualifies based on what is supposed to be the required metrics. 

UC is like the guy who has the money, the success and the right equipment to belong to a fancy country club, but doesn't get admitted by Judge Smails because he grew up in a trailer park.

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Posted: 12/16/2012 10:53 PM

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...the "Rodney Dangerfield" of universities!
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Posted: 12/16/2012 11:30 PM

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UC is not going to the Big 10, and Ohio State will never ever share the spotlight with any other state university.

They are a most insecure bunch of A-Holes up in Columbus.

I will say that all the reasons O$U won't share the spotlight with UC are all the best reasons why a conference like the Big 12 should pick UC up.  It would be Columbus' worst nightmare, and pick at the Big 10's prize athletic program, O$U.  It would stick to the Big 10 what the Big 10 did to the Big 12.

I'm not comparing UC football to Nebraska football, but UC going to the Big 12 would be a thorn in O$U's side.   What better way to open up Ohio recruiting more to schools like UC, Texas and Oklahoma than by adding UC to the Big 12?

Last edited 12/16/2012 11:37 PM by sluggur1

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Posted: 12/17/2012 12:09 AM

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I appreciate the honest opinions and answers to my question.  Thank you.  Some of the responses do explain why there will continue to be animosity.

If there is truth to things such as the capacity of the Shoemaker Center and lawmakers not going to bat for UC, that would be a huge concern (and unbelievably short-sighted for lawmakers).  My hope is that lawmakers especially would recognize that UC being in the ACC, for example, would draw a considerable amount more interest from out of state students, thus more revenue, better reputation, higher academic standing, and the like.  Of course, we're talking about lawmakers here, so who knows.

In terms of the t-shirt fans, I definitely understand that one.  There was a thread started on the Ohio State site a while ago calling out Kirk Herbstreit as not being a "real Buckeye".  The thread was started, of course, by someone who hadn't actually gone to Ohio State.  As best as I could tell, the division between those who thought him a "real" Buckeye vs. not were pretty much along the lines of those who were not alums vs. those who were alums or current students.  I suspect this same t-shirt fan (we've got plenty of them rooting for the Ducks up here in Oregon) would drive me nuts if I lived in Ohio.  

Here's my quick take on UC's current state.  I've mentioned on here before that I was a rugrat running around McMicken Hall in the late 70s and early 80s, a ballboy in the mid-80s (where our main job was to chase footballs around Nippert after extra points, as there were no nets), and a frequent visitor on breaks from school in the early 90s.  When I went to Ohio State, students there didn't necessarily disparage UC, they just didn't know much about the university, unless they came from Cincinnati.  Over the past 15 years or so, all of that has changed dramatically.  Sure, it causes animosity among fan bases and charges of Big Brother, Little Brother, etc.  The very fact that there's this animosity is incredible.  UC has forced its way into the conversation in athletics and as a national university.  UC has changed in a dramatic way.  For old timers on here, think about UC only 10 years ago. The school was enjoying an incredibly resurgence in basketball, but can you imagine being in the conversation for the ACC or Big 12?  Can you imagine UC having hired a coach away from the Big 12?  Things are certainly anxiety-ridden on this board and, I suspect, around the university, but UC is so far ahead of where it was just a short time ago.  It looks like this momentum will only continue.

Okay, sorry for the rant.  

Long Live Puffy Kennedy!

CBuck
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