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Lville and UC to ACC

Posted: 11/22/2012 4:30 PM

Lville and UC to ACC 


That's rumor I hear...and I love it...
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Posted: 11/22/2012 4:48 PM

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That is quite a rumor. If true it indicates more than Maryland will be leaving the ACC. The AAC will become the Big East 2.0 minus the basketball schools.
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Posted: 11/22/2012 5:35 PM

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I don't see UConn getting left out.  I think a lot will hinge on the buyout.  It will take a total of 3 to leave before UC gets an invite. It will also depend on how unhappy some members are (a la Mizzu & Neb B12).

I would like an invite and more security, but until I get a better rumor I will not hold my breath.
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Posted: 11/22/2012 6:18 PM

RE: Lville and UC to ACC 


'29, feast your eyes on this:

ajerseyguy.com/?p=3756

Discusses the ACC taking three schools.
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Posted: 11/22/2012 9:46 PM

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'29, feast your eyes on this:

ajerseyguy.com/?p=3756

Discusses the ACC taking three schools.

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Crazy floor we are dancing on.
Depending on what happens this may be our best option.

Last edited 11/22/2012 9:46 PM by bearcatvol

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Posted: 11/23/2012 12:39 AM

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In my opinion, I think you guys are just moving from one sinking ship to another. Here's what I think will shake down within the next five years. We will have 4 16 team super conferences split into two divisions each. The conference championship games in those conferences will be the de facto quarter finals for the playoff system. The four conference champions will be represented each year in the playoff.

Big 10: (East) Ohio State, Penn State, Rutgers, Maryland, North Carolina, Purdue, Michigan, Indiana. 

Big 10: (West) Wisconsin, Minnesota, Nebraska, Illinois, Northwestern, Iowa, Texas, Michigan State.

Texas leaves the Big 12 a mess as Oklahoma splits up with them. North Carolina goes as well. Leaving the Big 12 and ACC to form the last super conference.

Pac 12: (North) Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State, Boise State, BYU, Colorado, Utah.

Pac 12: (South) USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Arizona, Arizona State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State.

The Pac 12 nabs Oklahoma and Oklahoma State from the Big 12 and adds BYU and Boise State into the fold.


SEC: (East) Florida, NC State, Virginia Tech, Tennessee, Kentucky, South Carolina, Vanderbilt, Georgia.

SEC: (West) Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, LSU, Arkansas, Texas A&M, Missouri.

The SEC adds Virginia Tech and North Carolina State to the East division while pushing Missouri where it belongs in the West.

New Conference: (North) Notre Dame, West Virginia, Pitt, Virginia, Duke, UConn, Syracuse, Louisville.

New Conference: (South) Florida State, Miami, Georgia Tech, Clemson, TCU, Texas Tech, Kansas, Kansas State.


I think you guys just get left out. As I was doing it, you were the next team to be added.
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Posted: 11/23/2012 3:29 AM

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I have researched this topic carefully.

I disagree with Toledo Rocket, I don't see 4 16 team conferences with the ACC getting left out.  For that to happen, the PAC 10 would have to absorb a lot of schools in the Big 12 which I don't see happening.  

I think it plays out like this:

1.  The ACC adds UConn, Louisville, and UC to go to 16 teams.  The big issue with the ACC right now is money, they need more of it from their TV contract to keep everybody happy.  UConn, UC, and LVille gets the ACC into a lot of new markets (UConn = into NYC, UC = Cincinnati, Dayton, Columbus, maybe Cleveland, Indy.  LVille = Louisville, Lexington, Indy, possibly Nashville).  These additions crank up the TV dollars, which would further pacify the existing members and along with the high exit fee would stablize the conference.

2.  I don't think merely replacing Maryland with UConn does enough to stabilize the conference.  It replaces the DC market but probably wouldn't add much overall.  FSU, Ga Tech, Va Tech would still be looking to bolt per rumors.

3.  South Florida would seem to only make sense as an ACC addition if FSU bolts.  Right now, FSU and Miami already have ACC games on in Tampa and Orlando markets.  I think if anyone would still bolt from a 16-team ACC it would be FSU and USF would be sitting in the wings waiting for this to happen.

4.  If the ACC goes to 16 and the Big 10 still takes 2 teams to get to 16, then the ACC is to 14 - still a stable conference with this.  If the Big 10 takes 1 team, the ACC can add USF just as above.

5.  I have not seen or heard any credible information suggesting that the Big 12 or the SEC are actively looking to expand at this time.  I suspect they have their "guard up" given all this crap going on but that's it.  The Pac 10 would seem to love to expand just can't find suitable dance partners willing to dance.

The bottom line is this:  The Big East is basically dead and will soon be a Big East/C-USA hybrid.  UC, Louisville, UConn, and USF would all seem very motivated to leave the Big East right now, whatever the exit fee may be.

The ACC has tradition and teams but needs to up its revenues in a hurry to prevent further exodus.
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Posted: 11/23/2012 8:32 AM

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Notre Dame will not join a conference for football, they do not have to as they are America's team and TV will not buy the BCS if ND is excluded.
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Posted: 11/23/2012 10:42 AM

RE: Lville and UC to ACC Post Rating (1 vote)



bearcatvol wrote:
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'29, feast your eyes on this:

ajerseyguy.com/?p=3756

Discusses the ACC taking three schools.

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Crazy floor we are dancing on.
Depending on what happens this may be our best option.


UConn would be a wash football wise with the deprture of Maryland.  I've consistently said the ACC will get aggressive. They've shown a propensity in the past to do so and waiting may only shrink the pool of possible candidates.  My feeling is that the Big XII can't sit on the sidelines forever.  They have been vulnerable before and may be again.  If Texas and OU were to leave to B1G or elsewhere. then UC UofL become the perfect addition. Lots of options for UC to land on their feet.  First of which may be an aggressive ACC push to 16 with UConn, UC and UofL
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Posted: 11/23/2012 10:43 AM

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Completely wrong on your Pac12 prognostications.
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Posted: 11/23/2012 11:05 AM

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Not to nit pick, but Iowa State will NOT be left out in the cold either.
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Posted: 11/23/2012 1:33 PM

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bearcatvol wrote:
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--- UCLemmiwinks wrote:

'29, feast your eyes on this:

ajerseyguy.com/?p=3756

Discusses the ACC taking three schools.

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Crazy floor we are dancing on.
Depending on what happens this may be our best option.

I've heard reporters (not insiders, mind you) say that the ACC looking to take teams may cause the B12 to move.  If the B12 wants UL (if and when it moves to 12), then they make the call now less they lose them to the ACC.
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Posted: 11/23/2012 1:51 PM

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The Big 12 does not want U of L. The Big 12 wants Florida State, UNC, VT, Clemson, etc.. All they have to do is wait a while longer until the dominos fall.

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bearcatvol wrote:
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--- UCLemmiwinks wrote:

'29, feast your eyes on this:

ajerseyguy.com/?p=3756

Discusses the ACC taking three schools.

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Crazy floor we are dancing on.
Depending on what happens this may be our best option.

I've heard reporters (not insiders, mind you) say that the ACC looking to take teams may cause the B12 to move.  If the B12 wants UL (if and when it moves to 12), then they make the call now less they lose them to the ACC.

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Posted: 11/23/2012 2:18 PM

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B12 has had 13 months to add UofL and haven't...I think it's all ACC at this point. I think UofL and UC staying together would be perfect.
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Posted: 11/23/2012 2:25 PM

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MackT99 wrote: B12 has had 13 months to add UofL and haven't...I think it's all ACC at this point. I think UofL and UC staying together would be perfect.
Mack, can you please link us to this rumor?  Did the ACC actually decide to add three?  I have not seen it reported, only that the ACC is considering it.
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Posted: 11/23/2012 2:34 PM

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This has not been reported, only speculated.

I think it makes sense, though, as simply replacing Maryland does not stabilize the conference.  According to many sources, FSU, Georgia Tech, and VT (and possibly others) are talking to the Big 10/Big 12 about jumping ship.

I think adding 3 teams better stabilizes the conference.  Admittedly possibly not enough to keep FSU for sure, but probably enough to keep GT and VT (in my opinion)  More schools = more revenue.
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Posted: 11/23/2012 3:13 PM

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I think the ACC is now a sinking ship...just a year or so behind the Big East. I see a "new ACC" or shall we say an "old Big East" emerging on the horizon. Don't count on any of the big boys still being there if/when we arrive.

Go West Bearcats!
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Posted: 11/23/2012 4:48 PM

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I think the ACC is now a sinking ship...just a year or so behind the Big East. I see a "new ACC" or shall we say an "old Big East" emerging on the horizon. Don't count on any of the big boys still being there if/when we arrive.

Go West Bearcats!

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Card that is possible.
But part of that happening would include the Big 12 taking most likely FSU and Clemson.
Which would probably mean that the Big 12 would not have any interest in us or Louisville.
So if we can take advantage of the ACC's contract and tie ins I don't know how you can say no.
Of course we got to get an invitation.
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Posted: 11/23/2012 7:57 PM

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Posted: 11/23/2012 8:38 PM

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MackT99 wrote: twitter.com/bricmiller/statuses/272074276440506368

From a reporter in Tallahassee

He pulled that tweet, but it has already traveled around the twitterverse.  I really don't know how soon moves will be made.
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