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Conference Re-alignment: Best of luck the next few days

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Posted: 11/19/2012 12:36 AM

Conference Re-alignment: Best of luck the next few days 


I'm hoping for good news for both of our programs. We may be bitter rivals, but you'd be hard pressed to find two other schools with such similarities. You guys have been with us every-where, and I hope we both find ourselves in a good situation by weeks end. Regardless of what happens I hope our rivalries never die.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 2:06 AM

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MadCard what are you hearing....????
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Posted: 11/19/2012 8:41 AM

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MadCard05 wrote: I'm hoping for good news for both of our programs. We may be bitter rivals, but you'd be hard pressed to find two other schools with such similarities. You guys have been with us every-where, and I hope we both find ourselves in a good situation by weeks end. Regardless of what happens I hope our rivalries never die.

Ditto MadCard.   See my post in the other thread but I think UC and UofL to the ACC would be a net positive for our schools and the ACC.

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Posted: 11/19/2012 9:00 AM

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Louisville has no shot at the ACC. Do you really believe schools with the academic integrity of Virginia and Duke would ever want to be associated with Louisville. If UC can get the AAU membership UC may have a chance but it would still be iffy. 
CliftonAve wrote:
MadCard05 wrote: I'm hoping for good news for both of our programs. We may be bitter rivals, but you'd be hard pressed to find two other schools with such similarities. You guys have been with us every-where, and I hope we both find ourselves in a good situation by weeks end. Regardless of what happens I hope our rivalries never die.

Ditto MadCard.   See my post in the other thread but I think UC and UofL to the ACC would be a net positive for our schools and the ACC.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 12:20 PM

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Alright, Ron, I'll call bs on your message.  So, because a school may not be as highly rated, you're saying they don't have the same academic integrity?  That's absolute garbage.

On the ratings side, you may have a point.  Research dollars, AAU membership, etc do have meaning, but the schools that aren't as highly ranked in the ACC - NC State and FSU, in particular - aren't very far off of where UC and Louisville currently land.  


ronbcat wrote: Louisville has no shot at the ACC. Do you really believe schools with the academic integrity of Virginia and Duke would ever want to be associated with Louisville. If UC can get the AAU membership UC may have a chance but it would still be iffy. 
CliftonAve wrote:
MadCard05 wrote: I'm hoping for good news for both of our programs. We may be bitter rivals, but you'd be hard pressed to find two other schools with such similarities. You guys have been with us every-where, and I hope we both find ourselves in a good situation by weeks end. Regardless of what happens I hope our rivalries never die.

Ditto MadCard.   See my post in the other thread but I think UC and UofL to the ACC would be a net positive for our schools and the ACC.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 12:59 PM

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From everything that is said down here in ACC country, i believe Ron is correct in this case. Its part of the reason why they passed on WVU. I know for a fact that some of the upper crust ACC schools didnt want to be associated with WVU in any way. Hell alot of schools were against FSU joining because of their academics. The two existing ACC schools arent really applicable in our current situation. NCSU was a charter member in 1953 and FSU was brought in to boost football and boost TV deals. None of the schools out there offer big TV dollars or history with the ACC

That said, there arent many expansion candidates that more or less fit their fooprint, academic requirmeents, quality fanbases, and get them into new TV regions.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 1:23 PM

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Word I have been hearing is UCONN. If they were to expand to 16 Id love to see 'Ville and you guys get in. I have always enjoyed playing both schools, and usually turns into some pretty good games.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 1:29 PM

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Jeremy Folwer's twitter says ACC talking to UConn Cincy UL and USF about replacing Maryland. UConn and UL considered clubhouse leaders.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 1:35 PM

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But, but, but...President Ono is committed to the Big East.  He tweeted it sometime in the last month.  tongue
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Posted: 11/19/2012 1:46 PM

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ronbcat wrote: Louisville has no shot at the ACC. Do you really believe schools with the academic integrity of Virginia and Duke would ever want to be associated with Louisville. If UC can get the AAU membership UC may have a chance but it would still be iffy. 


The interesting thing here, is that UConn is not an AAU member either.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 1:50 PM

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I definitely agree that this is the case.  It was the integrity piece that left me a bit salty - perhaps I'm being too sensitive on that count.  It will be interesting to see what shakes out.  The only school that does seem to fit - geographically, academic perception-wise, and the like - is UConn.  Losing UConn and Rutgers would be a huge blow to the Big East.  It's crazy to think that UC would not only be the longest-tenured football member (along with Louisville), but also the second-closest (next to Temple) to the Big East's eastern footprint.  Remember when UC and Louisville were scoffed at partly because of geography?  That's almost laughable now.......

eerodynamic wrote: From everything that is said down here in ACC country, i believe Ron is correct in this case. Its part of the reason why they passed on WVU. I know for a fact that some of the upper crust ACC schools didnt want to be associated with WVU in any way. Hell alot of schools were against FSU joining because of their academics. The two existing ACC schools arent really applicable in our current situation. NCSU was a charter member in 1953 and FSU was brought in to boost football and boost TV deals. None of the schools out there offer big TV dollars or history with the ACC

That said, there arent many expansion candidates that more or less fit their fooprint, academic requirmeents, quality fanbases, and get them into new TV regions.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 1:51 PM

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Prez Ono hasn't tweeted in the last 6 hours.  Something going on!!!  biggrin
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Posted: 11/19/2012 1:56 PM

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Gobearcats25 wrote: Prez Ono hasn't tweeted in the last 6 hours.  Something going on!!!  biggrin

His earlier tweet said he was going to lunch with former Bearcat and New England Patriot Mike Wright and some others.  

Wonder who the others are.....


Edit:  He is not having lunch with Mike Wright.  He is at Purcell-Marian having lunch with some Bearcat alums.  Someone else mentioned in his tweet to be sure to mention Mike Wright with went to Purcell.

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Posted: 11/19/2012 2:01 PM

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UCLemmiwinks wrote:
ronbcat wrote: Louisville has no shot at the ACC. Do you really believe schools with the academic integrity of Virginia and Duke would ever want to be associated with Louisville. If UC can get the AAU membership UC may have a chance but it would still be iffy. 


The interesting thing here, is that UConn is not an AAU member either.
Haven't checked it out yet, but have heard elsewhere that not all ACC members are AAU.  Ron, I don't think the ACC will wait for around for candidates to get AAU status.  The ship is taking on water too fast.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 2:01 PM

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We have an adequate chance of landing "somewhere," but other dominos must fall first. It could take a good while before said dominos fall. The Big 12 has to get back in the expansion game first and they won't do so without negotiating a new TV deal. There has been zero talk of that.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 2:02 PM

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Maybe Mike and "a few others" are going to come up with the $10m we need!
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Posted: 11/19/2012 2:19 PM

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ESPN is in panic mode, the ACC Conference that they own is about to go into extinction. ESPN is going to have to come up with another $200 million per year to equalize ACC revenue with the other 4 power conferences in order to keep all the current ACC schools from jumping ship. If the wall had ears at the Disney board room right now!
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Posted: 11/19/2012 2:24 PM

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It is a lot more than $10 million. If you want to get into a new conference without waiting 27 months the Big East exit fee is $20 million. Then there is the matter of the entrance fee into the conference you will be joining which will be in the $25 million range. Make the $10 million $45 million. Pres Ono is tweeting for contributions.
Gobearcats25 wrote: Maybe Mike and "a few others" are going to come up with the $10m we need!
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Posted: 11/19/2012 2:28 PM

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Tweet:

ACC could move quickly, I'm told. UConn and Louisville are considered clubhouse leaders among the four, per source.

ACC in talks with UConn, Louisville, South Florida and Cincinnati about 14th team to replace Maryland, source told @ CBSSports

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Posted: 11/19/2012 2:32 PM

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ronbcat wrote: ESPN is in panic mode, the ACC Conference that they own is about to go into extinction. ESPN is going to have to come up with another $200 million per year to equalize ACC revenue with the other 4 power conferences in order to keep all the current ACC schools from jumping ship. If the wall had ears at the Disney board room right now!

LOL!  I hope you're right... biggrin
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