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Posted: 5/4/2012 9:53 PM

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Presently, over 80,000,000 people receive some sort of assistance from the federal government every month.  When did it become acceptable to live off of the hard work of others?  When did this country decide that giving a hand to someone who desperately needs one equates to giving a hand to everyone who has decided it's just easier to do nothing?  80,000,000 people per month!!!!  redfaceredfaceredface
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Posted: 5/4/2012 10:30 PM

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Of your 80M plus figure, 44 million retirees receive Social Security benefits primarily based upon what they've paid in. An additional 10 Million receive Social Security via disability. That's 54 million of your 80 million figure, two thirds. I trust you don't perceive these people as living, "off of the hard work of others". As for your remaining 26 million, what's your source. SHALOM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...ublic_economics
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Posted: 5/5/2012 12:28 PM

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Posted: 5/9/2012 3:29 PM

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obama fool us one more time
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Posted: 5/9/2012 4:16 PM

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What you or the author forgot to mention is that Obama learned that from GW...the country proved that it was INSANE as a voting block in 2004 and mostly likely will continue that streak in 2012.
Fire-Up Chips
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Posted: 5/9/2012 4:43 PM

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These are political cartoons.  There are the authors way of utilizing humore to poke fun at a politicians traits/leanings.  Presently, the president is Obama, so he gets the most ink. 

As for the country being insane.....  What does bother me is the continued growth of the federal government.  Where is the 'tipping point' as they say?  At what point does the federal government reach black hole properties in that it finally just absorbs all that surrounds it to the point that nothing can escape?

We can't go on subsidizing big oil, tobacco, farmers, the unemployed, the infirm, the military, politicians, CIA, FBI, DEA, Secret Service, the ever growing Dept of Education, EPA, Social Security, illegal care, food stamps, the seemingly countless federal agencies, the ever growing list of czars, failed banks, auto industry, Freddie and Fannie, ......

I'm hoping that in the very near future those of us who actually work and produce a product/supply a need, will decide they are done paying for all the takers and hangers on.  It's almost like the possie that follows around the famous money maker.  They all love the guy and spend his money.  When he falters, they no longer follow/hang on.  They start looking for the next easy target to live off.  

You don't want to work and contribute to "The Great Society", fine.  We wil assign you a park to maintain.  We will assign you a sewer to clean and repair. 

Today's unbelievable news in Los Angeles.  The union at Culver City School District is taking the parent volunteers to court.  Why?  To force them to pay union dues.  These parents volunteer in various groups and do nothing but fundraise for the schools various organizations, departments, athletic and academic teams.  They are working for FREE.  They are running fundraisers and donating large sums of money to keep the schools various functions operable.  The union has decided they work at & for the school, therefore they must pay union dues.

This is how twisted we have become.

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Posted: 5/9/2012 5:02 PM

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It reached "Black Hole" debt status under Bush, now most of his supporters are in total denial about it but that is when it happened. And it did not happen because of unions, social security, immigrants, it happened because he choose to fund two wars by borrowing from China...and then the banking house of cards collapsed, and that is why we are we are today, not because of unions social security or any of the other scapegoats the tea baggers try to hang it on, it is because Bush administration choose to spend like there was no tommorrow with totally borrowed money, in fact, next to China probably the ss fund is biggest loaner of funds to the general budget...
Fire-Up Chips

Last edited 5/9/2012 5:07 PM by chippucino

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Posted: 5/9/2012 5:12 PM

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I agree that Bush spent more than he had available, to the tune of how many trillion?  Now, explain to me why Obama has trippled the debt?
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Posted: 5/9/2012 5:42 PM

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http://www.usdebtclock.org/#    Just visited this site.  OUR national debt was at 15,708,225 and change.  That's 15 trillion, 708 billion, 225 million and change....  and it's going up.  That's a little over $50,000.00 per person.

Bush increased the debt by about 4.9 trillion in 8 years.  Obama is increasing it much faster than Bush, in 3 years. 

Given your premise that it was the two unfunded wars, etc, what's the reason for Obama increasing it so much faster than Bush and his failed policies?  One of the two wars is over.  Let's face it.  Neither party is willing to face the issues.  All they see is re-election in the mirror.

And taking 100% of the money of the 1% doesn't come close to wiping out the debt.

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Posted: 5/9/2012 5:55 PM

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I don't believe you can find any place where I have lauded Obama's financial policies...I do not believe in bail outs, was opposed to the first Chyrsler bailout and am still to this day even though it worked out, because it established a very dangerous precedent. Obama cutting ss taxes was/is insane if ss is really in deep do do you raise taxes or at least raise the upper limit of collection.
US corporations had a banner year in 2011, bailouts worked for them, now they got theirs and it is time to start pay back all of us...and not just with the actual loan amounts but in terms of taxes and hirings.
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Posted: 5/9/2012 6:04 PM

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By the way, the $50,000 listed above is for every man, woman and child.  The amount per actual tax payer is $138,000+

And I'm with you on the bailouts.  LET THEM FAIL.  To big to fail is not a fact, it's a philosophy.  SocSec wasn't set up to pay an individual for 10 to 20 years.  I believe at the time of it's inception, the ave life expectancy for US citizens was 67.  So, about two years of SS benefits per recipient.  Now, people are living MUCH longer and they fund was not designed to support that.  Also, there have been changes to the law.  The addition of survivor benefits came first.  Then came the addition of disability benefits. 

It's a continued pattern of our government trying to be more and more to the voters without paying the bill.  Wait until Obamacare kicks in 100%.  This less than fully funded program will make social security issues look like a simple problem to tackle.
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Posted: 5/9/2012 6:22 PM

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Since you are bringing up economic history when Clinton handed over the economy to GW, the office of budget and management said we were on track to be debt free as a nation by 2012...that speaks volumes about GW's total incompetence, he can blame 911 but only to a small degree...it is when we hit critical mass as an economy it makes no difference what Obama does or Romney, taxes have to be raised because the debt has snowballed not so much from policy changes but from interest compounding at critcal mass status...the money has been spent and the bills must be paid...and the war costs will go on long after we leave in terms of veteran benefits and care...Obama has not done a good job, but GW is the guy that totally BLEW IT.
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Posted: 5/9/2012 6:38 PM

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Not recalling which one, but either Bush Sr, or Clinton was the benefactor of the internet explosion.  What we have received since is two guys who push their respective agenda forward at the expense of the country.  Neither has shown financial credibility.  GW was the one who didn't finance the wars, however he also was in the WH when the democrat dominated congress pushed thru the "everyone should own a home" agenda.  In GW;s second term the housing market went bust in no small part to the huge number of bad loans forced onto the american financial system books.  "We'll give you a balloon loan, or we'll give you a loan that will only increase by 1.5% per year,......" 

GW was in office, so he gets the heat.  Obama is in office now, so same terms.  He gets the heat. 

Our federal budget is being run by the same people that created the housing mess.  "Don't worry.  By the time the bill comes in you can either sell the house for a profit, or you will be making more money and will be able to afford the increased payment."  It's the same philosophy behind the ever increasing federal debt.  Don't worry, by the time the bill comes due, we will be making much more money......  But we aren't, and we won't because we don't produce anything to sell to other countries to generate incoming money. 

We are borrowing money from China.  CHINA?!  How do they have money to lend.  They are the world's manufacturing center.  We outsourced all of our jobs to Tiawan, China....

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Posted: 5/9/2012 6:58 PM

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You hit the nail on the head with that one, Obama kept in place many of GW's financial guru's and his military leadership....so the same folks are in charge, the more things change in Washington the more they stay the same.  

I was looking to buy a second home in the Hilton Head area, wanted to make a huge down payment as I have always been totally fiscally responsible but was told that I would have to look else where for a mortgage if I was not willing to take a 120% mortgage not a 100% but a 120% one, that was in 2002 or 3 if I am recalling correctly well I choose not to jump in and today I am pretty pleased with that even though I am still basically stuck in Michigan with house that has collapsed in value.

And we have one those Repub.. guys that has basically turned all public workers especially teachers into the scapegoats for our many financial problems here He preached shared sacrifice, but his idea of that was to tax pensions reduce pay for all public employees and instead of using that to balance the state coffers he used to give his business buddies tax breaks that exceeded the increase in taxes he piled on those who could least afford to pay, and now he is considering yet more business tax breaks afterall they do create jobs, in China....these guys make me sick no matter what party they are in, because they only give a crap about their narrow group of cronies.

Whether it was internet boom or what the federal budget at the end of Clinton's administration was better than  balanced, bi-pariansihip worked...now we the far left and far right that will not budge on anything..search out the letter the ousted Repub. senator wrote today about the current state of affairs in DC.
Fire-Up Chips

Last edited 5/9/2012 7:03 PM by chippucino

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Posted: 5/9/2012 7:30 PM

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I read it this morning.  I believe it was Senator Lugar from Indiana. 

I'm afraid we are in for another few years of "lesson learning" and deeper hard times before/if the fed wakes up.  While we are here in CA, the weather is terrific but the politics are worse than in DC.  Repubs almost never get elected unless they are  Dem's in Rep clothing (Arnold).  We are billions in debt, can't pay for required upcoming bills and the CalState system decided to give their presidents 10% raises.  Oh yes, and they raised tuition on students more than 10%, while cutting classes, and shortening those they will keep.

My wife and I have surrendered to the lunacy that claims to care about where the state/country is headed.  We now just want to get to the end of the road before the state/country get to the end of our money!

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Posted: 5/10/2012 12:53 AM

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Michael Ramirez Cartoon
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Posted: 5/10/2012 12:19 PM

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How are God & Obama different?

Obama gets better press.
God only demands to be worshipped once a week.
God doesn’t think he is Barak Obama.
God asks for only 10 percent of your money.
God gives you freedom to live your life as you choose.
God's plan to save us is actually written down for you to read.
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Posted: 5/11/2012 9:10 AM

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a10koaksfed wrote:


This drives me crazy. It's "baby's daddy." I would even have accepted "babies' daddy."

On the other hand, protesters that don't know how to spell provide me with a great deal of amusement.

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Posted: 5/11/2012 1:11 PM

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romney 2012 billboard
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Posted: 5/11/2012 4:09 PM

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unemployment of gay marriage
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