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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:12 AM
Fabulous! Simply Fabulous!!
McCabe's Fab 50 List for 2013 is out. Call me Captain Obvious, if you will, but CMU is well represented. |
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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:22 AM
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I'm really excited about this class.
I know we're rarely gonna be able to beat out UM or MSU for recruits, but I wish we could start stealing the guys Pitt, NC State, Illinois, etc. are taking from the state.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 11:04 AM
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CMU - 12 in the Fab 50  WMU- 5 MSU - 3 Toledo - 3 EMU - 0 Hope this translates to the playing field. Now let's go hit Florida and Texas hard. |
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Posted: 2/1/2013 12:17 PM
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Once again, Mick McCabe, IMHO, does the best job of ranking the top prep football players in the state. FIRE UP CHIPS! |
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Posted: 2/1/2013 12:58 PM
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Great looking class coming in for CMU! Interesting that MSU only has 3 recruits in this list. I think they are becoming the other Ohio State. That's fine, more Michigan recuits for us!
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Posted: 2/1/2013 9:40 PM
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BeatWestern wrote: Once again, Mick McCabe, IMHO, does the best job of ranking the top prep football players in the state.
FIRE UP CHIPS! Mick doesn't do much research. He calls up a few of the bigger name coaches and whatever they say is how he ranks the kids after the top 15. There are some glaring mistakes. Austin Doan is not even the best player on his HS team, that would be Rivals 3 Star recruit Caleb Bailey. Yet Mick doesn't even rank Bailey. Mick loves Orchard Lake (a great HS program), probably consults with their coach before making this list, and has kids from there ranked way to high. Niemec, heading to Miami had very little D1 attention, and has all the speed of a dump truck. Same with Linehan who is heading to Idaho (his only offer). Gary Jones has no business being listed higher than 50. He's got speed and potential, garnered virtually no DI attention, and definitely falls into the hidden gem catagory. At #49 he has Jessie Chadwell who has 5 offers including a BIG school, Illinois, whom he committed to. What's Mick's logic? Is there anyone here that really believes Corey Willis is a better prospect than DeMario Jones? I spoke to Mick before at a press conference after a Kalamazoo Central vs Clarkston semifinal game at Breslin. He knew virtually nothing about either team, other than he knew Fife, the Clarkston coach. Knew nothing about the three DI recruits on KCs team, and little about Kaminechi (BSU) or Pokley (WMU) who were the two Clarkston DI recruits. When the presser was over we shook hands and he says, "Thanks for the info." Should a blogger really be the guy providing info to one of Michigans "foremost HS sports experts?" The pic he uses in the Freep must be 20 years old. The guy is as big as a house these days.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:56 PM
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WMUfan55 wrote:
BeatWestern wrote: Once again, Mick McCabe, IMHO, does the best job of ranking the top prep football players in the state.
FIRE UP CHIPS! Mick doesn't do much research. He calls up a few of the bigger name coaches and whatever they say is how he ranks the kids after the top 15.
There are some glaring mistakes. Austin Doan is not even the best player on his HS team, that would be Rivals 3 Star recruit Caleb Bailey. Yet Mick doesn't even rank Bailey.
Mick loves Orchard Lake (a great HS program), probably consults with their coach before making this list, and has kids from there ranked way to high. Niemec, heading to Miami had very little D1 attention, and has all the speed of a dump truck. Same with Linehan who is heading to Idaho (his only offer).
Gary Jones has no business being listed higher than 50. He's got speed and potential, garnered virtually no DI attention, and definitely falls into the hidden gem catagory. At #49 he has Jessie Chadwell who has 5 offers including a BIG school, Illinois, whom he committed to. What's Mick's logic?
Is there anyone here that really believes Corey Willis is a better prospect than DeMario Jones?
I spoke to Mick before at a press conference after a Kalamazoo Central vs Clarkston semifinal game at Breslin. He knew virtually nothing about either team, other than he knew Fife, the Clarkston coach. Knew nothing about the three DI recruits on KCs team, and little about Kaminechi (BSU) or Pokley (WMU) who were the two Clarkston DI recruits. When the presser was over we shock hands and he says, "Thanks for the info." Should a blogger really be the guy providing info to one of Michigans "foremost HS sports experts?" The pic he uses in the Freep must be 20 years old. The guy is as big as a house these days. "Should a blogger really be the guy providing info to one of Michigans "foremost HS sports experts?"" Well, certainly NOT YOU!
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Posted: 2/1/2013 11:13 PM
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None of it amounts to anything except hype. See me in 2-3 years and I will tell you how accurate that list was. Everybody has an opinion and they are all worth little.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 11:22 PM
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WMUfan55 wrote:
There are some glaring mistakes. Austin Doan is not even the best player on his HS team, that would be Rivals 3 Star recruit Caleb Bailey. Yet Mick doesn't even rank Bailey.
Maybe he didn't rank him because he played high school football in Illinois.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 11:35 PM
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ncchip wrote:
WMUfan55 wrote:
There are some glaring mistakes. Austin Doan is not even the best player on his HS team, that would be Rivals 3 Star recruit Caleb Bailey. Yet Mick doesn't even rank Bailey.
Maybe he didn't rank him because he played high school football in Illinois. Good point  Romeo Romeo where for art though................. |
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Posted: 2/1/2013 11:44 PM
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chipfan wrote: None of it amounts to anything except hype. See me in 2-3 years and I will tell you how accurate that list was. Everybody has an opinion and they are all worth little. You are correct. If you turn back the clock the stud recruit often turns out to be someone you didnt expect. McCabe thought Josh Allison was a top 15 recruit in 2007 when CMU landed him. Micks logic stemed from Allison's brother playing at MSU. Allison was a total bust. No one projected Cody Wilson to be a top receiver. McCabe thought Adam Fenton was a top 20 player because he played for Al Fracassa at Brother Rice. Pretty much a bust. He loved Westendorp, need I say more. Probably his biggest goof was his love of Mark Caitlin from Lowell. Every MAC school passed on the MI high school legend and Mick chastised them for their foolishness. Caitlin went on to have a nice but not standout career at GVSU.
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Posted: 2/2/2013 8:49 AM
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The thing about Mick is he "does" seek out every source he can and that is his strength. He canvases yhe entire state and has great relatio s with many coaches. The one thing I particularly like about Mick is that he GETS the big picture. He GETS that is more than just the athletic ability of a kid but so the charachter and overall person. For those who just care about wins that is not important. He also does buy into the media hype and scouting ratings of the national guys who just read box scores.
PROUD TO BE A CHIPPEWA
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Posted: 2/2/2013 12:41 PM
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I'd rather have kids on the list coming here than not have kids on this list. Arguing who should be there and who shouldn't is subjective and pointless.
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Posted: 2/2/2013 4:27 PM
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Chipjerk, year after year you would visit CMU sites to gloat about what you perceived to be superior WMU recruiting classes. The rankings you drooled over were nothing more than opinion, much like the McCabe rankings you now scoff at. You offer zero to any discussion of football talent. Run off to your dark room, log on and pretend to have a value some place else.
WMUfan55 wrote:
BeatWestern wrote: Once again, Mick McCabe, IMHO, does the best job of ranking the top prep football players in the state.
FIRE UP CHIPS! Mick doesn't do much research. He calls up a few of the bigger name coaches and whatever they say is how he ranks the kids after the top 15.
There are some glaring mistakes. Austin Doan is not even the best player on his HS team, that would be Rivals 3 Star recruit Caleb Bailey. Yet Mick doesn't even rank Bailey.
Mick loves Orchard Lake (a great HS program), probably consults with their coach before making this list, and has kids from there ranked way to high. Niemec, heading to Miami had very little D1 attention, and has all the speed of a dump truck. Same with Linehan who is heading to Idaho (his only offer).
Gary Jones has no business being listed higher than 50. He's got speed and potential, garnered virtually no DI attention, and definitely falls into the hidden gem catagory. At #49 he has Jessie Chadwell who has 5 offers including a BIG school, Illinois, whom he committed to. What's Mick's logic?
Is there anyone here that really believes Corey Willis is a better prospect than DeMario Jones?
I spoke to Mick before at a press conference after a Kalamazoo Central vs Clarkston semifinal game at Breslin. He knew virtually nothing about either team, other than he knew Fife, the Clarkston coach. Knew nothing about the three DI recruits on KCs team, and little about Kaminechi (BSU) or Pokley (WMU) who were the two Clarkston DI recruits. When the presser was over we shook hands and he says, "Thanks for the info." Should a blogger really be the guy providing info to one of Michigans "foremost HS sports experts?" The pic he uses in the Freep must be 20 years old. The guy is as big as a house these days.
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Posted: 2/2/2013 4:46 PM
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Chipsrule:
Chipjerk, year after year you would visit CMU sites
You had me at "you would visit CMU sites." I haven't been on this site in ages because your stupid mod banned anything not associated with "Chip Happy Talk."
I also love how any non-happy talk opinion warrants a response like "Chipjerk." You know, it's not just Western folks that laugh at you guys.
As for bragging about recruits. You're last four classes have delivered you 3-9, 3-9, and a 6-6 record including a 30 point loss and a 14 point loss to us. Aren't recruits supposed to equate to W's. I keep hearing Enos is a great recruiter. The record doesn't seem to jibe with that statement. He's either not a great recruiter, or he's a terrible x's and o's guy and game day coach.
I believe he's a good recruiter of Michigan talent, although over focused there. There isn't enough MAC level talent in MI to compete in the MAC.
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Posted: 2/2/2013 4:47 PM
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arrows80 wrote: I'd rather have kids on the list coming here than not have kids on this list. Arguing who should be there and who shouldn't is subjective and pointless. I just think Mick's research is weak, and roll my eyes that people see him as a high school recruiting guru. |
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Posted: 2/2/2013 5:42 PM
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Speaking of research...Adam Fenton played at Birmingham Seaholm, not Brother Rice. And Caleb Bailey is probably the best player on his team...but he plays for Romeoville in Illinois, not Romeo in Michigan where Austin Doan plays.
Does anyone think Corey Willis is a better prospect than Da'Mario Jones. Yes. Willis missed his entire SR season due to a torn ACL and didn't camp anywhere during the summer, otherwise he was headed for BCS offers. Watch his film, probably the closest thing to Antonio Brown CMU fans will have seen.
If you want to argue about anyone on the list for being overrated, it's Shane Morris. Missed a big chunk of his senior season with mono, and has put up pedestrian numbers at the HS level.
And if I'm a WMU fan, recruiting Michigan should be a priority. There is talent here that gets overlooked, that's how Cubit ended up with guys like Tony Scheffler, Jason Babin and Greg Jennings.
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Posted: 2/2/2013 6:42 PM
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Your late to the party sparty. Already fessed up to the Romeo thing. As for Fenton McCabe had him ranked as a Top 20 player in MI. He's been a total bust.
Newsflash Sparty. Babin had an MSU offer until he blew his knee out his senior year. Jennings had a UM offer and was ready to sign when the NCAA clearing house said he had to finish up a HS credit to qualify. He finished the credit but UM withdrew their offer. Scheffler had several MAC offers.
As for making recruiting MI a priority, name one school in the country with a majority of MI recruits that is highly successful. Even in the hay day of Chimp football, the guys who ruled the day for Kelly and Jones were from out of state, i.e. LeFevour, Brown, Bellour, Sneed, etc.
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Posted: 2/2/2013 7:55 PM
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Not sure I would call Fenton a "total bust", he's probably going to be the starting FB next year and has switched position twice already. And regardless of whether you "fessed" up about the Romeo statement, it was still pretty ignorant.
And I'm sure Babin had an MSU offer and Jennings was bound for UM, but those facts don't dispute what I said. They were still in-state players, and they probably ended up at WMU because the Broncos kept recruiting them and made the right connections. Scheffler was a hidden gem, he wasn't even the top recruit at Chelsea during those years, that would have been OL Joe Tripodi who ended up at Northwestern.
As for your newsflash, sure LeFevour, Brown and Bellore were big parts during CMU's MAC run. But then you had MI natives such as Bryan Anderson, Frank Zombo, Vince Agnew, Jeff Maddux, Sam Williams and Rocky Weaver who made up the core of the team. Not to mention guys like Joe Staley, Eric Ghiuciac, Adam Kieft, Dan Bazuin and soon to be Eric Fisher who were all drafted to the NFL from CMU and played HS ball in Michigan.
The state as a whole is under-recruited, and that's why you see programs like Toledo and Bowling Green putting more recruiting resources here. Look at their rosters and recent recruiting classes. Fleck has the right strategy, and it's not like Cubit won anything with his recruiting philosophy. He will make is much tougher for CMU to recruit the Midwest, because they are now direct competition and Cubit rarely defeated CMU for an in-state recruit because he didn't prioritize them.
Great post though, started it right out with the incorrect use of "You're", didn't spell Nick Bellore's name right and then used the word "Chimpy" to describe the Chippewas like a 5th grader.
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Posted: 2/2/2013 8:02 PM
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Of that MI group Anderson, Bazuin and Zombo were major contributors. The state is not under recruited at all. MI football simply isn't all that good with the exception of a few programs. Dade County FL has 10 teams that would blow out our state champ. Don't get me started on CA, TX, and OH. OMFG, I DIDN'T SPELL BELLORE RIGHT, WTF IS WRONG WITH ME  Eric Fisher is clearly a great player, but in the big scheme of things he brought you 12 wins in the last 3 years. Toledo and BG are less than 50 miles from Detroit, kind of a no brainer.
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