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New Annual Giving Levels & Benefits sent out

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Posted: 6/3/2014 7:45 PM

New Annual Giving Levels & Benefits sent out 


Now for $50 annually to the RedWolf Foundation you get membership into 1 of the 4 support clubs such as the Touchdown Club. There are no additional annual fees for membership. For $1500 annually you are automatically a member of all 4 support clubs. TD Club, Fast Break, Sixth Man, and Homerun.
There is also a new point system that accumulates annually and allows members to be ranked within all levels of giving for priority of post season tickets and premium seating. They are allowing previous donors back to 2000 to get 5 points per year for each year they have given to the Foundation is really the only advantage previous donors have over new donors starting today and there is a 5 point bonus for being an Alum.
Great time to get involved for as low as Happy Meal per month.
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Posted: 6/3/2014 8:52 PM

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I am glad they are keeping track of it, but only giving donors credit back to 2000 is a little bogus.  My grandfather's Indian Club (now Red Wolf Foundation) number that my mother has carried on since his death dates back to the early 70's with the same 4 season tickets since the stadium was built.  I think folks like that deserve a few more points than someone like myself who has been at it less than 10 years.
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Posted: 6/3/2014 9:11 PM

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She should not have a problem. There are points as well for each $100 given since 2000. I really think that there was not a lot of gifts above requirements for seating prior to 2000. And judging by the attendance prior to 2000 there were not a lot of people doing that.
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Posted: 6/3/2014 9:42 PM

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Posted: 6/3/2014 9:54 PM

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I respectfully disagree!

Indian Club members in the '70s and '80s were given priorities based on amount of contributions, and seating priorities were based on amount of contributions.

Why not go back as far as possible to award loyal members?eek1
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Posted: 6/3/2014 10:05 PM

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Forgive my speculation as I do not know why. I am sure there is a valid reason and I based that off the increase in donations since 2000. I don't foresee a lot of changes in priorities from this process. It was designed to keep the same group of people from getting constantly begged for money from all the different groups and there were no priority given to people who were members of all 4 support clubs in the past. If you have not been involved with any of those clubs you would probably be amazed at how much money they raise collectively for the Foundation each year that helps purchase things that there have not been a budget for.
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Posted: 6/3/2014 10:16 PM

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Posted: 6/3/2014 10:26 PM

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Will there be a place where we can view how many points we have accumulated?
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Posted: 6/4/2014 8:30 AM

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They can't go back further because there are no complete and reliable records back before that.

There were people in the late 90's receiving credit for donating at a high level who hadn't given money in years because they were matching lists up. They were even getting year end tax receipts without having given money. There were people who donated who were told there was no record and they had to mail copies of cancelled checks.

You can't credit people for the earlier periods except for a few specific programs like New Era Fund and maybe the seating expansion because the records don't exist.

NEVER let "just good enough" be acceptable for A-State again!
-RedWolfRushing

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Posted: 6/4/2014 8:54 AM

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Arkstfan wrote: They can't go back further because there are no complete and reliable records back before that.

There were people in the late 90's receiving credit for donating at a high level who hadn't given money in years because they were matching lists up. They were even getting year end tax receipts without having given money. There were people who donated who were told there was no record and they had to mail copies of cancelled checks.

You can't credit people for the earlier periods except for a few specific programs like New Era Fund and maybe the seating expansion because the records don't exist.
This I believe.  It was a circle out there for a good while.  Glad we are beyond it.
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Posted: 6/4/2014 9:12 AM

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When should I be expecting to receive this information in the mail? Is there a form in there that I can choose which clubs I select under my umbrella membership?
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Posted: 6/4/2014 9:31 AM

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lateshow wrote: When should I be expecting to receive this information in the mail? Is there a form in there that I can choose which clubs I select under my umbrella membership?
It was my understanding that an initial mail out to current RW Foundation Members has been made.
You will get a RW Foundation Membership card that you will present at club meetings that will come in the RW Foundation member packets that go out after July 1.
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Posted: 6/4/2014 11:04 AM

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Hunn85 wrote:
lateshow wrote: When should I be expecting to receive this information in the mail? Is there a form in there that I can choose which clubs I select under my umbrella membership?
It was my understanding that an initial mail out to current RW Foundation Members has been made.
You will get a RW Foundation Membership card that you will present at club meetings that will come in the RW Foundation member packets that go out after July 1.
Hope I didn't accidentally toss mine.

NEVER let "just good enough" be acceptable for A-State again!
-RedWolfRushing

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Posted: 6/4/2014 11:37 AM

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Arkstfan wrote:
Hunn85 wrote:
lateshow wrote: When should I be expecting to receive this information in the mail? Is there a form in there that I can choose which clubs I select under my umbrella membership?
It was my understanding that an initial mail out to current RW Foundation Members has been made.
You will get a RW Foundation Membership card that you will present at club meetings that will come in the RW Foundation member packets that go out after July 1.
Hope I didn't accidentally toss mine.
You should become involved!biggrin
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Posted: 6/4/2014 12:57 PM

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Called last month and jumped the gun  upped my giving and already received letter
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Posted: 6/4/2014 6:34 PM

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My family has been giving (donating) every year going back before, as my dad says,  the "new" stadium was built. I'm guessing the mid 1960s.  I cant believe these people will not get any credit for such a long dedication to the university, even thru all those "rotten" years.  I also cant believe there are no reliable records of donations before the year 2000.  They had good enough records to send out renewal notices every year for a donation.  Thanks for letting me rant.
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Posted: 6/4/2014 7:03 PM

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My family has been giving (donating) every year going back before, as my dad says,  the "new" stadium was built. I'm guessing the mid 1960s.  I cant believe these people will not get any credit for such a long dedication to the university, even thru all those "rotten" years.  I also cant believe there are no reliable records of donations before the year 2000.  They had good enough records to send out renewal notices every year for a donation.  Thanks for letting me rant.

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My father started buying season tickets in the 50s. He hasn't missed a year.

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Posted: 6/4/2014 8:29 PM

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I do not think this is in any way designed to knock a loyal long time fan out of any benefits. I think if everyone would approach this as a glass half full it will be a good deal for everyone . It is designed to benefit loyal fans not discriminate them.
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Posted: 6/4/2014 10:18 PM

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I do not think this is in any way designed to knock a loyal long time fan out of any benefits. I think if everyone would approach this as a glass half full it will be a good deal for everyone . It is designed to benefit loyal fans not discriminate them.

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Amazing, isn't it?


"When there's a snake in your home, you kill it. You don't allow it to roam freely amongst your family." - asuwon
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Posted: 6/4/2014 10:59 PM

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sandsblast1 wrote: My family has been giving (donating) every year going back before, as my dad says,  the "new" stadium was built. I'm guessing the mid 1960s.  I cant believe these people will not get any credit for such a long dedication to the university, even thru all those "rotten" years.  I also cant believe there are no reliable records of donations before the year 2000.  They had good enough records to send out renewal notices every year for a donation.  Thanks for letting me rant.
How can you NOT believe there are no reliable records?

Think about that. For most of the years, the records were paper. There was no real reason to keep the 1967 season ticket records after the 1968 season started.

Even with the Indian Club, after five years there was no reason to retain a record. Statute of limitations for the club being audited or a donor being audited (who might need a replacement receipt) is three years. State law has generally held records of accounts receivable and payable need only be retained until cleared by state audit, so a lot of those types of records are deleted within a year of being cleared by payment.

Also remember that when computerization happened the earliest records would almost certainly (if retained) be held in formats that are no longer supported and there would be no easily available computer with the correct operating system and software to read the data. For example if the early data was on Lotus 1-2-3 it is unlikely that they migrated anything other than donor level and data in switching to Excel on Windows because data about prior year donations wasn't considered relevant.

Having more than a decade of season ticket and donation data is good because they very easily could have have had five or fewer years and been in compliance with the law.

NEVER let "just good enough" be acceptable for A-State again!
-RedWolfRushing

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Posted: 6/4/2014 11:13 PM

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It should come as no surprise that we had poor record keeping years ago as it's been posted here in the past several times.  I go back to 1967 and believe I have donated every year but the military years.  Don't think I have been closer than 800 miles to Jonesboro over the years but I have still had my season tickets and made my pledges.  Did it because I support my school and hopefully it helped along the way.  No regrets, records or not.
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Posted: 6/4/2014 11:19 PM

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According to the point system anyone who has given steadily for whatever years is going to be maxed out in the level of giving that they donate. I do not understand the complaints?
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Posted: 6/5/2014 7:37 AM

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asujohn wrote: It should come as no surprise that we had poor record keeping years ago as it's been posted here in the past several times.  I go back to 1967 and believe I have donated every year but the military years.  Don't think I have been closer than 800 miles to Jonesboro over the years but I have still had my season tickets and made my pledges.  Did it because I support my school and hopefully it helped along the way.  No regrets, records or not.
Bravo sir.  That is dedication.  I wish we had more people like that.   Unfortunately the younger generation is a "what have you done for me lately" crowd.   I fear that we have several people that wont renew tickets if we endure more than one down year.  I just started purchasing season tickets in 2010, but I am determined to keep it going for as long as I am able.

"We are....A-State !!!"
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Posted: 6/5/2014 7:45 AM

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Fanof49ASU wrote:


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My family has been giving (donating) every year going back before, as my dad says,  the "new" stadium was built. I'm guessing the mid 1960s.
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Posted: 6/5/2014 9:31 AM

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I do not think this is in any way designed to knock a loyal long time fan out of any benefits. I think if everyone would approach this as a glass half full it will be a good deal for everyone . It is designed to benefit loyal fans not discriminate them.

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Amazing, isn't it?
Yet not surprising. We seem to have a whole bunch of fans, at least on here, that jump on any reason to be offended.
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Posted: 6/5/2014 9:51 AM

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So, if I'm reading this correctly, if I make my first donation this year at $100, I will have 8-10 points.
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Posted: 6/5/2014 3:10 PM

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lateshow wrote:
Wolfowitz wrote: ---------------------------------------------
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I do not think this is in any way designed to knock a loyal long time fan out of any benefits. I think if everyone would approach this as a glass half full it will be a good deal for everyone . It is designed to benefit loyal fans not discriminate them.

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Amazing, isn't it?
Yet not surprising. We seem to have a whole bunch of fans, at least on here, that jump on any reason to be offended.
^^^Post of the decade^^^^

A-state is trying VERY hard to improve right now.  Having folks out in the field trying to raise money.  A-state is working harder than ever to right our ship, and we have people whining that's it's not EXACTLY the way they want it.  Come on!!!  It's growing pains!  Embrace that!  It means the institution WE LOVE is on the move!  ASU is not settling for "the way we've always done it".  Onward & Upward!
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Posted: 6/5/2014 4:05 PM

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Wolfowitz wrote: ---------------------------------------------
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I do not think this is in any way designed to knock a loyal long time fan out of any benefits. I think if everyone would approach this as a glass half full it will be a good deal for everyone . It is designed to benefit loyal fans not discriminate them.

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Amazing, isn't it?
Yet not surprising. We seem to have a whole bunch of fans, at least on here, that jump on any reason to be offended.

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I find that offensive!!!

Wolves attack in packs. So it is best to attack them one on one, but even that can lend itself to be difficult.
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