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Braves to Acquire Justin Upton

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Posted: 1/24/2013 10:35 AM

Braves to Acquire Justin Upton 


http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/...stin-upton.html


Another option off the table. Embarrassing off-season.


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Posted: 1/24/2013 1:42 PM

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Are you kidding? Not worth the price!

You don't have to add a bunch of high-priced free agents every year, especially with a strong farm system.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 6:46 PM

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I think the Rangers still have a great overall team, and we still have all of our top prospects to boot.

Everyone thought that Angels bought a championship last year, and they still finished behind the Rangers. The A's were simply a fluke in my opinion.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 11:15 AM

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Mark478 wrote: I think the Rangers still have a great overall team, and we still have all of our top prospects to boot.

Everyone thought that Angels bought a championship last year, and they still finished behind the Rangers. The A's were simply a fluke in my opinion.
I think the A's were a fluke because the Rangers were a flop. The more perspective I have of it, the more I think about what a poor job Washington did. Sure, he had the pitching staff problems, but in the end, it was his regulars who didn't perform.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 11:22 AM

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Wow, how proud we've gotten in a few short years. Since when is 93 wins in a season a "flop"? If you want to say we choked away the division by going 3-7 in our last 10, that would be fair. But to call the season a flop is just crazy in my opinion. I agree with Mark, we still have a great team with our top prospects intact. I've been a Rangers fans for 30 years...the future has never looked brighter to these old eyes.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 12:49 PM

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LongTimeRangerFan wrote: Wow, how proud we've gotten in a few short years. Since when is 93 wins in a season a "flop"? If you want to say we choked away the division by going 3-7 in our last 10, that would be fair. But to call the season a flop is just crazy in my opinion. I agree with Mark, we still have a great team with our top prospects intact. I've been a Rangers fans for 30 years...the future has never looked brighter to these old eyes.

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Posted: 1/26/2013 5:42 PM

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LongTimeRangerFan wrote: Wow, how proud we've gotten in a few short years. Since when is 93 wins in a season a "flop"? If you want to say we choked away the division by going 3-7 in our last 10, that would be fair. But to call the season a flop is just crazy in my opinion. I agree with Mark, we still have a great team with our top prospects intact. I've been a Rangers fans for 30 years...the future has never looked brighter to these old eyes.
they flopped the last 9 games of the season with a 5 game lead of a season in which the goal was to win the World Series

you have your choice of words I have mine and I ain't crazy

We have a good team with good prospects with some leverage if we need it

I hope we can be great this year.... we should compete for the next few years and that's a better place to be then most places
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Posted: 1/30/2013 1:00 PM

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It still amazes me when I read posters who obviously live in some fantasy realm.....when you have crafted a team that goes to the WS 2 consecutive years...basically led, by a comfortable margin, the division the entire year..considered by most observers to be the best team in the AL maybe all of MLB....then crash and burn the last 2 weeks of the season showing absolutely ZERO fight...then YES last years 93 wins season was a flop.....the objective of a team of this caliber was to make it back to the WS and win it....to at least make the playoffs and put in a good showing...not to limp home with 93 wins and nothing to show for it...NOTHING... except for embarrassment for themselves and their fans who supported them all year..
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Posted: 1/30/2013 1:04 PM

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CaliRangersFan wrote: Are you kidding? Not worth the price!

You don't have to add a bunch of high-priced free agents every year, especially with a strong farm system.
great idea...let's see how Round Rock or Frisco do against Trout,Pujols,Hamilton and Weaver.....get your peanuts and cracker jacks, folks, it's gonna be a blast...or several of them.....but hey with an outfield of Murphy,Gentry and Martin for a 3rd of the year we can always cheer for that possible infield hit in the 6th inning, can't we?......

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Posted: 2/6/2013 2:37 PM

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Knightsonfire wrote: It still amazes me when I read posters who obviously live in some fantasy realm.....when you have crafted a team that goes to the WS 2 consecutive years...basically led, by a comfortable margin, the division the entire year..considered by most observers to be the best team in the AL maybe all of MLB....then crash and burn the last 2 weeks of the season showing absolutely ZERO fight...then YES last years 93 wins season was a flop.....the objective of a team of this caliber was to make it back to the WS and win it....to at least make the playoffs and put in a good showing...not to limp home with 93 wins and nothing to show for it...NOTHING... except for embarrassment for themselves and their fans who supported them all year..
Now, on the other hand, if you listened to the media at the begining of the season, then 93 wins and making the playoffs was good...but we all knew the media was east/west coast shite.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 2:42 PM

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Knightsonfire wrote:
CaliRangersFan wrote: Are you kidding? Not worth the price!

You don't have to add a bunch of high-priced free agents every year, especially with a strong farm system.
great idea...let's see how Round Rock or Frisco do against Trout,Pujols,Hamilton and Weaver.....get your peanuts and cracker jacks, folks, it's gonna be a blast...or several of them.....but hey with an outfield of Murphy,Gentry and Martin for a 3rd of the year we can always cheer for that possible infield hit in the 6th inning, can't we?......
point

but, it'll taste even better to beat them this year
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Posted: 2/18/2013 1:47 PM

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Cruz, Murphy, and Martin will actually make a pretty decent outfield. Let's say 10th to 12th in the MLB. It may not match Anaheim's outfield, but I think the rest of the team stacks up better than Anaheim. Then take into account that we have the #1 Farm system in MLB and Anaheim has #30, you can see why we don't have to overpay in the offseason. There is no need to "match" or "keep up" with off-season acquisitions of division rivals. That notion is one made up by the media to keep people interested.

I don't think Hamilton will perform well under the pressure of his contract. I also don't see Trout repeating his performance from last year. I think the scouting reports will catch up to him. When Anaheim's aging veterans start to go down, the weakness of their farm system will reveal itself.

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Posted: 2/18/2013 6:35 PM

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CaliRangersFan wrote:

Cruz, Murphy, and Martin will actually make a pretty decent outfield. Let's say 10th to 12th in the MLB. It may not match Anaheim's outfield, but I think the rest of the team stacks up better than Anaheim. Then take into account that we have the #1 Farm system in MLB and Anaheim has #30, you can see why we don't have to overpay in the offseason. There is no need to "match" or "keep up" with off-season acquisitions of division rivals. That notion is one made up by the media to keep people interested.

I don't think Hamilton will perform well under the pressure of his contract. I also don't see Trout repeating his performance from last year. I think the scouting reports will catch up to him. When Anaheim's aging veterans start to go down, the weakness of their farm system will reveal itself.

Do the Rangers have the #1 farm system again?? Last year, the Royals had the #1 farm system.
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Posted: 2/19/2013 10:30 AM

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It looks like we rank anywhere from 1-10, depending on where you looks, and tha Angels are consistently around 29 or 30. They gave away their 3 top prospects last year for 2 months of Zack Greinke. surprised

http://www.mlbprospectguide.co...m-rankings.html

http://taurussports.net/davids...rm-systems.html

http://www.minorleagueball.com...ickels-rankings
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Posted: 2/20/2013 3:54 PM

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the amount of involvement that Cruz will have has yet to be determined....if MLB decides to shelve him for PHD for a significant period of games at some point in the season then I disagree..the Rangers do not have a 'decent outfield" at that point...which is why I did not include him on the list of OFers until this is resolved...."overpaying" is a subjective term...if "overpaying " and you can afford it,brings you a pennant ,then it's worth it....L.A. just brought up Mike Trout last year, it's not like their system hasn't been productive....having the "#1" farm system does you little good this year unless your goal is to win the Texas league....big deal. .when your rival can promote the MLBs top rookie AND strip you of your top pitcher and hitter as well as bring in a guy like Pujols all in 2 years with little attempt at addressing that problem ,you've got an issue.....your thoughts about Hamilton or Trout could be valid, we'll see....but someone could just as easily say..."Nathan,Berkman and AJ have seen their better days and no way Darvish repeats his rookie year success".....all in all I'd trade Texas roster for LA's this year if I had money on it and I could.....you talk about 'aging veterans" yet ignore our stellar off season pickups of the old and infirmed....you can't point out perceived weaknesses on your rivals and ignore those very same problems on your own...... 
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Posted: 2/20/2013 6:28 PM

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Knightsonfire wrote: the amount of involvement that Cruz will have has yet to be determined....if MLB decides to shelve him for PHD for a significant period of games at some point in the season then I disagree..the Rangers do not have a 'decent outfield" at that point...which is why I did not include him on the list of OFers until this is resolved...."overpaying" is a subjective term...if "overpaying " and you can afford it,brings you a pennant ,then it's worth it....L.A. just brought up Mike Trout last year, it's not like their system hasn't been productive....having the "#1" farm system does you little good this year unless your goal is to win the Texas league....big deal. .when your rival can promote the MLBs top rookie AND strip you of your top pitcher and hitter as well as bring in a guy like Pujols all in 2 years with little attempt at addressing that problem ,you've got an issue.....your thoughts about Hamilton or Trout could be valid, we'll see....but someone could just as easily say..."Nathan,Berkman and AJ have seen their better days and no way Darvish repeats his rookie year success".....all in all I'd trade Texas roster for LA's this year if I had money on it and I could.....you talk about 'aging veterans" yet ignore our stellar off season pickups of the old and infirmed....you can't point out perceived weaknesses on your rivals and ignore those very same problems on your own...... 
Having a top rate farm system is all about staying competitive in the near future, along with having enough trade chips to make a blockbuster trade deadline deal. I'm not sure why you believe that the farm system isn't important.

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Posted: 2/21/2013 1:13 PM

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I'm personally very happy with being seen as the underdog. The team tends to perform better when they are expected to lose. We are in a much better position, psychologically, than the Angels are. My point about the aging veterans is that we have the farm system depth to excel even if our veterans get hurt. If Berkman only plays 25 games, then Profar or Olt can fill in. What happens when Hamilton or Pujols goes down? They've got nobody.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 3:56 PM

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And then we have stories like this that lead me to believe we are doing everything right. The Angels have NOTHING like this. We have Ryan, Maddux (x2) and now I-ROD in our front office.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/i...b3ZlZA--;_ylv=3
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Posted: 2/21/2013 6:26 PM

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CaliRangersFan wrote: I'm personally very happy with being seen as the underdog. The team tends to perform better when they are expected to lose. We are in a much better position, psychologically, than the Angels are. My point about the aging veterans is that we have the farm system depth to excel even if our veterans get hurt. If Berkman only plays 25 games, then Profar or Olt can fill in. What happens when Hamilton or Pujols goes down? They've got nobody.
Good points.  The Rangers have plenty of depth, which often makes the difference over a 162 game season.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 7:41 AM

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That's not the point and you know it....it's not about how the farm helps us next year or 2-3 years fr now but THIS year ....after 3 years of championship/contender baseball with score built for a long run just to see us fall back into rebuilding mode....and thoseod season trading chips ain't gonna help in July if you're in 3rd place 9 games out.....especially when you weren't willing to use them this winter

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Knightsonfire wrote: the amount of involvement that Cruz will have has yet to be determined....if MLB decides to shelve him for PHD for a significant period of games at some point in the season then I disagree..the Rangers do not have a 'decent outfield" at that point...which is why I did not include him on the list of OFers until this is resolved...."overpaying" is a subjective term...if "overpaying " and you can afford it,brings you a pennant ,then it's worth it....L.A. just brought up Mike Trout last year, it's not like their system hasn't been productive....having the "#1" farm system does you little good this year unless your goal is to win the Texas league....big deal. .when your rival can promote the MLBs top rookie AND strip you of your top pitcher and hitter as well as bring in a guy like Pujols all in 2 years with little attempt at addressing that problem ,you've got an issue.....your thoughts about Hamilton or Trout could be valid, we'll see....but someone could just as easily say..."Nathan,Berkman and AJ have seen their better days and no way Darvish repeats his rookie year success".....all in all I'd trade Texas roster for LA's this year if I had money on it and I could.....you talk about 'aging veterans" yet ignore our stellar off season pickups of the old and infirmed....you can't point out perceived weaknesses on your rivals and ignore those very same problems on your own...... 
Having a top rate farm system is all about staying competitive in the near future, along with having enough trade chips to make a blockbuster trade deadline deal. I'm not sure why you believe that the farm system isn't important.

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