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Hamilton the Angel

Posted: 12/13/2012 6:13 PM

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I'm not happy he left, but would you have wanted to give him 5yrs/125 million ? Anyone ?? I would not have been happy with that contract with all we know about him.

Also,if he agreed to give Texas a shot at matching/beating any offer & didn't..isn't that pretty douchey of him? If a man doesn't have his word,he doesn't have much. Tough player to replace,but no one is bigger than the team. About time for JD to step up & land a stud !!

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Posted: 12/13/2012 6:17 PM

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I may be in the minority, but I really didn't want him back.
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Posted: 12/13/2012 7:10 PM

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Mark478 wrote: I may be in the minority, but I really didn't want him back.

I wanted him back because there was a difference when he was in the lineup whether or not he was rocking or not. Worth 25 mill a year. Been there. Done that. Move on.
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Posted: 12/13/2012 7:13 PM

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LongTimeRangerFan wrote:

I'm not happy he left, but would you have wanted to give him 5yrs/125 million ? Anyone ?? I would not have been happy with that contract with all we know about him.

Also,if he agreed to give Texas a shot at matching/beating any offer & didn't..isn't that pretty douchey of him? If a man doesn't have his word,he doesn't have much. Tough player to replace,but no one is bigger than the team. About time for JD to step up & land a stud !!

heard what some were saying in the front office about him being back, wouldn't give a flyin' flip. Pitching, team depth, re-build are better options for the money.
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Posted: 12/13/2012 11:26 PM

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I'm pissed that we struck out on all our major targets, Upton, Greinke, and Hamilton. There's no excuse for that when your farm system is supposedly stacked and your owners have deep pockets. Am I missing something here? Surely, there is a big move about to be made eventually.
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Posted: 12/13/2012 11:58 PM

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Don't forget James Shields. I would have liked to get him.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 5:31 AM

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To me, a person's word means something.  Josh Hamilton's word meant nothing. I have no respect for people like that.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 7:22 AM

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This was a WEAK Free Agent class. Why not build with your youth and not overpay injury prone stars.  A player is only good for you when they are in the lineup.  Plus he had a lot of I dont care about this game unless I get paid on his face at end of year.

He may play balls out not and if he gets hurt at least he got paid.  He was protecting himself late in the season and didnt care I think.  Maybe not.  I just know he left a sour taste in my mouth by the way he did our Rangers.  Time to plunk the mother ****** first at bat.

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Posted: 12/14/2012 4:10 PM

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I say go with what we have....



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Posted: 12/14/2012 5:05 PM

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Blame JD not Josh. He's the reason they're even relevant and now he's with the enemy. Daniels repeatedly showed him a lack of respect or enthusiasm to have him back in Arlington. They postponed his negotiations last year, and poured all interest this offseason into Greinke, Upton, Dickey. Now they have neither and have subtracted Napoli and Young as well. Now there are no FA's left and Texas is on the outside looking in. Blame Jon Daniels not Josh.


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Posted: 12/14/2012 5:10 PM

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I blame Daniels for this....he didn't get Ham's extension done this time last year...tabled it through the last year basically daring him to find a better deal and showing no interest in paying him his market value..result was Hamilton getting feeling betrayed after the all star break and dogging it...to the point he may have actually actively had a part In this teams nose dive the last week..yeah that's right I said it...that 's the way it looked to me....now LA will be the recipient of his talents and will tear up this division next year....looks like 3rd place next year and the end of an era same as the 1999 off season....
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Posted: 12/14/2012 5:28 PM

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back to the texas rangers of old and you can thank jon daniels for that.


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Posted: 12/14/2012 6:30 PM

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RowdyRangerFan22 wrote: This was a WEAK Free Agent class. Why not build with your youth and not overpay injury prone stars.  A player is only good for you when they are in the lineup.  Plus he had a lot of I dont care about this game unless I get paid on his face at end of year.

He may play balls out not and if he gets hurt at least he got paid.  He was protecting himself late in the season and didnt care I think.  Maybe not.  I just know he left a sour taste in my mouth by the way he did our Rangers.  Time to plunk the mother ****** first at bat.

I totally agree.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 6:31 PM

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WildThing79 wrote: back to the texas rangers of old and you can thank jon daniels for that.

The offseason isn't over yet. I think that this team will be fine.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 8:53 PM

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What motivation did he have? Why would you want to play for an organization that you helped achieve a great deal of success and not receive gratitude for it? Guy won an mvp and was in the top 3, two other seasons and he's at fault? Guy has the best season of his career and is booed by his own fans and he's at fault? Jon Daniels and the organization showed him zero respect. How can you blame him for not wanting to come back?
RowdyRangerFan22 wrote: This was a WEAK Free Agent class. Why not build with your youth and not overpay injury prone stars.  A player is only good for you when they are in the lineup.  Plus he had a lot of I dont care about this game unless I get paid on his face at end of year.

He may play balls out not and if he gets hurt at least he got paid.  He was protecting himself late in the season and didnt care I think.  Maybe not.  I just know he left a sour taste in my mouth by the way he did our Rangers.  Time to plunk the mother ****** first at bat.



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Posted: 12/15/2012 12:19 AM

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Next year's free agent class is weaker.
 
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Posted: 12/15/2012 5:52 AM

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WildThing79 wrote: What motivation did he have? Why would you want to play for an organization that you helped achieve a great deal of success and not receive gratitude for it? Guy won an mvp and was in the top 3, two other seasons and he's at fault? Guy has the best season of his career and is booed by his own fans and he's at fault? Jon Daniels and the organization showed him zero respect. How can you blame him for not wanting to come back?

 

Did you even watch last season?? Josh Hamilton tanked down the stretch, and it was obvious to everyone who watched him that he was doing it intentionally. I don't care how talented a player is; when you pull a stunt like that, then I don't want them on the team.
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Posted: 12/15/2012 8:39 AM

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Intentionally tanked btw. Unreal. Tell me one player in the history of baseball who hasn't gone into a slump. Keep defending Daniels while we fall further and further from contention. This offseason: gain Joakim Soria, lose Hamilton, Napoli, Young, Adams. Jon Daniels might not be known if not for Josh putting his team back on the map. Why would I want to comeback to a team in which I was the integral part of their resurgence, and they're more focused on acquiring a 37 year old NL knuckle-baller? Daniels had no enthusiasm to bring back hamilton and it's evident. And why in the world would you not deal Andrus for Upton?
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WildThing79 wrote: What motivation did he have? Why would you want to play for an organization that you helped achieve a great deal of success and not receive gratitude for it? Guy won an mvp and was in the top 3, two other seasons and he's at fault? Guy has the best season of his career and is booed by his own fans and he's at fault? Jon Daniels and the organization showed him zero respect. How can you blame him for not wanting to come back?

 

Did you even watch last season?? Josh Hamilton tanked down the stretch, and it was obvious to everyone who watched him that he was doing it intentionally. I don't care how talented a player is; when you pull a stunt like that, then I don't want them on the team.


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Posted: 12/15/2012 9:51 AM

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WildThing79 wrote: Intentionally tanked btw. Unreal. Tell me one player in the history of baseball who hasn't gone into a slump. Keep defending Daniels while we fall further and further from contention. This offseason: gain Joakim Soria, lose Hamilton, Napoli, Young, Adams. Jon Daniels might not be known if not for Josh putting his team back on the map. Why would I want to comeback to a team in which I was the integral part of their resurgence, and they're more focused on acquiring a 37 year old NL knuckle-baller? Daniels had no enthusiasm to bring back hamilton and it's evident. And why in the world would you not deal Andrus for Upton?
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WildThing79 wrote: What motivation did he have? Why would you want to play for an organization that you helped achieve a great deal of success and not receive gratitude for it? Guy won an mvp and was in the top 3, two other seasons and he's at fault? Guy has the best season of his career and is booed by his own fans and he's at fault? Jon Daniels and the organization showed him zero respect. How can you blame him for not wanting to come back?

 

Did you even watch last season?? Josh Hamilton tanked down the stretch, and it was obvious to everyone who watched him that he was doing it intentionally. I don't care how talented a player is; when you pull a stunt like that, then I don't want them on the team.
Anyone who watched those games agree with me.
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Posted: 12/15/2012 12:44 PM

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Outsider here, considering the DBacks recently acquired who is likely to be their SS of the future, acquiring Justin Upton is somewhat of a longshot, but I realize your management team possesses the means and creativity to get something done; I.e. Andrus and Olt. Industry sources seem to indicate that Kevin Towers really likes Elvis Andrus, plus they could use Olt long term at the hot corner. I just don't see Lars Anderson being their guy at 3B, so something could still get done.

Nevertheless, I think the Rangers and Dodgers could also matchup. The Dodgers need a 3Bman and could benefit from moving Matt Kemp to a corner position; thus, making Ethier or Crawford expendable. So, how about a package built around Mike Olt for Andre Etheir? If needed, the Bums could also include Capuano or Harang.

Interested in hearing your take.
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