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Re: Baseball America top 20 prospects by league

Posted: 10/2/2012 1:43 PM

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Here's an excerpt from the chat in regards to Kelly, Wisdom, and Piscotty:

Q:  The Cardinals drafted three 3B in the first two rounds (Piscotty, Wisdom and Kelly). Which has the best chance of being a good big leaguer and which has the best chance at sticking at third? Thanks!
A:  I'm bullish on Wisdom, who I think will definitely stay at third. He's got instincts, actions, range and arm strength — the full package at the hot corner. Piscotty, I think, is more of a left fielder, but I think he's got a chance to hit enough to play every day out there anyway. Sounds like Kelly has a chance to be steady at third, but probably not a standout. I think Wisdom can be a standout defender there.
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Posted: 10/2/2012 1:45 PM

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Midwest League rankings today.
14. Tyrell Jenkins, RHP
20. Stephen Piscotty, 3B

Scouting reports
Jenkins:
"An outstanding athlete who had a football scholarship from Baylor, Jenkins has made slow progress since committing to baseball full-time. He spent his first two years as a pro in Rookie ball, then never got untracked at Quad Cities in his introduction to full-season competition. He missed most of June with shoulder soreness and the final two weeks with a strained lat muscle, and he was inconsistent when he took the mound.

Jenkins still has a lean body, loose arm and a 93-96 mph fastball that he maintains in deep into games. He's still trying to figure everything else out. He has some depth on his curveball, mainly because he has a straight-over-the-top delivery that scouts don't care for, but his breaking ball lacks power at times.

Jenkins shows some feel for a changeup that has a chance to become a solid pitch. He needs to improve both his control and command, as he falls behind in the count and gives up more walks and gets hit harder than he should."

Piscotty:
"He stepped right into the No. 3 spot in the Quad Cities lineup and showed the hitting ability that earned him a $1,430,400 bonus. He works counts and never gives in to pitchers, wearing them out with line drives from gap to gap.

"The kid was unbelievable," Burlington manager Aaron Nieckula said. "He already has a big league approach. He'd just spit on offspeed pitches and wouldn't swing at anything out of the zone. He's very disciplined and works himself into hitter's counts."

No one doubts Piscotty's ability to hit, but the two concerns that knocked him out of the first round continued to linger after his pro debut. He's more of a doubles threat than the home run source teams want in a third baseman. And while he has a strong arm, he's an erratic defender (22 errors in 36 games) who lacks soft hands, range and quickness."
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Posted: 10/2/2012 1:55 PM

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thanx for the new info.

however whoever i now have my doubts about whoever is collecting this info if they can't put anthony garcia on a top 20 in the MWL list.
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Posted: 10/2/2012 3:26 PM

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cardzZilla wrote: thanx for the new info.

however whoever i now have my doubts about whoever is collecting this info if they can't put anthony garcia on a top 20 in the MWL list.
3 straight years of top 5 league OPS while below average age for the league.
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Posted: 10/2/2012 3:35 PM

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In his chat Callis rates Garcia as a bat only guy. Says that he is not very athletic.

It is a big league and 2 of the top 20 is pretty good but how does Fort Wayne get so many in the top 20.
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Posted: 10/2/2012 6:25 PM

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SoonerinNC wrote: In his chat Callis rates Garcia as a bat only guy. Says that he is not very athletic.

It is a big league and 2 of the top 20 is pretty good but how does Fort Wayne get so many in the top 20.
Garcia's arm strength is a plus though his range is below average and needs to improve his routes nothing a little agility work in the off season could help him become a better athlete.
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Posted: 10/2/2012 6:48 PM

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Is Callis the Cub homer?
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Posted: 10/2/2012 8:26 PM

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Keep in mind Garcia was signed as a catcher so he is still learning the outfield. He needs work out there, but I sure wouldn't say he's not athletic.
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Posted: 10/2/2012 8:51 PM

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Even if he had to become a first baseman  Garcia's bat has been good enough to be ranked in his league.
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Posted: 10/3/2012 6:18 AM

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SoonerinNC wrote: Is Callis the Cub homer?
Yep.

Tough times don't last long but tough people do -

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Posted: 10/8/2012 9:41 PM

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Cardinals have zero of the top 20 prospects in the Florida State League: link
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Posted: 10/9/2012 10:15 AM

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In the chat Will Cooper had this to say about Cardinal prospects.

Rodriguez - Plenty of tools, plus runner who doesn't get good jumps, makes high caliber plays at second but lets balls go through his legs, good bat speed, recognizes breaking pitches but swings way too hard.

O'Neill - fascinating lead off batter with average at best tools, amazing ability to put the bat on the ball

Ferrara - Potential #5 starter with 88-91 heat.

Gil - good field no hit

Wacha - Pretty much discounted his heat because of only having to go a couple of innings. Was fairly positive about Wacha though.
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Posted: 10/9/2012 4:00 PM

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SoonerinNC wrote: In the chat Will Cooper had this to say about Cardinal prospects.

Rodriguez - Plenty of tools, plus runner who doesn't get good jumps, makes high caliber plays at second but lets balls go through his legs, good bat speed, recognizes breaking pitches but swings way too hard.

O'Neill - fascinating lead off batter with average at best tools, amazing ability to put the bat on the ball

Ferrara - Potential #5 starter with 88-91 heat.

Gil - good field no hit

Wacha - Pretty much discounted his heat because of only having to go a couple of innings. Was fairly positive about Wacha though.

add that Ferrara is a southpaw
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Posted: 10/9/2012 9:01 PM

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I saw Ferrara pitch this summer and was impressed with him. He is bigger than the media guide shows him at, and thaws harder than Sherriff who had a better record.
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Posted: 10/9/2012 10:50 PM

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UncleDenny wrote: I saw Ferrara pitch this summer and was impressed with him. He is bigger than the media guide shows him at, and thaws harder than Sherriff who had a better record.
Haven't gotten a chance to see Ferrara pitch yet how's his secondary stuff? By looking at his numbers seems like he has control/command issues could be cause the injuries he sustained all season. Have to like the lived armed lefties though.
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Posted: 10/11/2012 4:33 PM

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Texas League top 20:

2. Taveras
6. Martinez
9, Rosenthal
16. Wong
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Posted: 10/15/2012 8:00 AM

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Shelby Miller #6, Matt Adams #19 in PCL.  link

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Posted: 10/15/2012 4:00 PM

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Surprised to see the lack of respect for Adams this guy has mashed at every level in the minors. Was injured most of the season and still managed to OPS .986 and slug 18 HR while injured impressive.
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Posted: 10/15/2012 6:08 PM

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Scouting reports on Miller and Adams from BA

Shelby Miller

"Miller faced his first extended bout of adversity in Memphis, going 4-8, 6.17 through his first 17 starts. The Cardinals gave him 11 days off in late June, and he worked with pitching coordinator Brent Strom to get his delivery more in line with the plate. When he returned, Miller was under orders not to shake off any signs, forcing him to throw more offspeed stuff because he was becoming to reliant upon his fastball.

Everything clicked in August, when Miller went 5-1, 2.89 with a 53-4 K-BB ratio in 37 innings to earn his first big league callup. During that time, he unleashed a heavy mid-90s fastball from an easy delivery. His secondary stuff needs refinement, but his upper-70s curveball and mid-80s changeup have above-average potential."

Matt Adams


"Adams batted .454 at NCAA Division II Slippery Rock (Pa.) and .316 in his first three minor league seasons, and he continued to pound pitchers in the PCL. He wasn't as potent during the month he spent in St. Louis, but showed flashes of his offensive upside. After he returned to Memphis, his season ended a month early when he had bone spurs from his right elbow.

Adams is a big man with tremendous strength and relatively short arms than enable him to maintain a compact swing and hit for high averages with plus power. His bat will have to carry him, because he's a well below-average runner limited to first base. He's an adequate defender with a bat that easily profiles for the position.
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Posted: 10/15/2012 6:14 PM

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Per the chat

BA Subscriber asked

" Why do you believe the Cardinals give Adams such a brief look in the Majors before sending him down again? Many would gladly take his plate discipline over someone like Allen Craig."
"Nathan Rode: I just don't think there was room on that roster to give him enough at-bats. I really like Adams, but don't sell Craig short. He can really hit and his on-base skills aren't poor by any stretch. And he doesn't strike out much either."

Another user asked

" Best hitting prospect — Matt Adams or Jonathan Singleton? Who has the best power potential?"
"Nathan Rode: It's close. I probably give the hit tool to Singleton, and I'm the low-man on him in the office I think. I'll give the power edge to Adams, though that's close as well."

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