Posted: 1/23/2013 2:53 PM
slappzilla wrote: Braun had a better EVERYTHING than yaddy. If it was just a few categories and just by a bit I'd gladly give the nod to Yaddy since the catcher position is a lot harder to play, but they weren't even close.actually Posey beat Braun in a couple of categories so I guess there's [i]some[/i] argument there, to be fair.
Posted: 1/23/2013 9:38 PM
Posted: 1/24/2013 4:15 AM
Last edited 1/24/2013 4:30 AM by pugsleyaddams
Posted: 1/24/2013 5:59 AM
pugsleyaddams wrote: ------------------------------------------------ cardinalnationhouston wrote: Yadi is a key component on every pitch while your guy stands in left field adjusting his family jewels on 95% of all pitches. ---------------------------------------------Well said, CardinalNation.....well said!Funny line, Crdswmn! However, I think it would be appropriate at this time to once again remind the female sector here at The Cardinal Nation that Slappzilla is a valued guest visiting us from the Brewers board, and as a guest, should be treated as such. Calling the esteemed Slappy names like "crappy", "ignorant", "lame", "ugly" and "misguided", though quite possibly true, does not promote good will. Thank you in advance for your future cooperation in this matter, ladies.
Posted: 1/24/2013 7:12 AM
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Last edited 1/24/2013 8:47 AM by slappzilla
Posted: 1/24/2013 8:52 AM
slappzilla wrote:You know who's also better than Yaddy? Lucroy.
Posted: 1/24/2013 9:20 AM
Posted: 1/24/2013 1:33 PM
slappzilla wrote: The catcher position is a lot more important than the LF position. You are right. I never said different.The fact that you think that Yaddy's defense and pitch calling makes him a better ball player than Braun since Braun plays LF shows how well you comprehend major league baseball. I get this is the Cardinal board and you guys are going to back your guys while I back my guys, but c'mon. Yadier Molina is not a better baseball player than Ryan freaking Braun.Defense can define the better in two players, but not when one player has better offensive stats across the board. Seriously. We're not comparing a pitcher and a batter. We're comparing two batters.You know who's also better than Yaddy? Lucroy.
Posted: 1/24/2013 2:38 PM
cardinalnationhouston wrote: there is no player in either league that is worth as many wins as Molina when you take into account how many runs he prevents. how do we quantify the effect on an inning that a Molina pickoff or CS has? All his other stellar plays and game calling?
Posted: 1/24/2013 4:28 PM
forsch31 wrote: The one thing that you don't mention is how many runners take a smaller lead off the base with Molina behind the plate. How many runs does something that small prevent?
Posted: 1/24/2013 10:35 PM
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Posted: 1/25/2013 9:32 AM
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Posted: 1/25/2013 12:56 PM
slappzilla wrote: Let's see how full season Lucroy vs full season Molina goes in 2013, shall we?
Posted: 1/25/2013 1:41 PM
DMENS wrote: slappzilla wrote: Let's see how full season Lucroy vs full season Molina goes in 2013, shall we?Is that your first outrageous prediction of the upcoming season? Slappy must not have seen her shadow, because spring is coming early to Lala Land. If the last decade of baseball is any able predictor of the future, I think this bet will fall hard just like anything else you say.
Posted: 1/25/2013 2:13 PM
slappzilla wrote: ahhh...the Molina love is never ending. Best hitter, best at playing the catcher position, turns water into wine....seriouslyHe is good. He is top 5.He is not the best. He did just have his best year ever.Let's see how full season Lucroy vs full season Molina goes in 2013, shall we?
Posted: 1/25/2013 2:27 PM
Posted: 1/25/2013 2:50 PM
slappzilla wrote: Lucroy OPS = 881yaddy OPS = 873If you guys don't like OPS feel free to compare any other batting stats.As far as comparing there defense, it's tough. Lucroy calls a great game. He did great with the young guys at the end when the Brewers made that late run. He guns guys out well too. If you guys have stats to prove me wrong throw them out there.
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