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Cardinals Payroll Table

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Posted: 9/30/2008 2:43 PM

Cardinals Payroll Table 


NAME2008200920102011201220132014
Pitchers






*Chris Carpenter
SP
10.5m (8.5m)
(2m deferred no interest)
14m (12m)
(2m deferred no interest)
14.5m (12.5m)
(2m deferred no interest)
15m (13m)
(2m deferred no interest)
15m (13m)
(club option-1m buyout-and I guess the same 2m deferrment of 2m)
FA
Mark Mulder
SP-LHRP
6.5m(club option-
1.5m buyout)
FA





Braden Looper
SP
5.5m (6.5m) (perhaps 1m in performance bonuses)MILWAUKEE





*Joel Piniero SP-RP5m (5.675m) (up to 2m in performance bonuses .175m + .15m x4 + .35m x1 = .675m)7.5mFA



*Kyle Lohse SP4.25m(4.75) (performance bonus= .5m)7.125m(8.375m)8.875m11.875m11.875mFA
*Adam Wainwright SP.5m (1.25m) (.75m signing bonus)2.6m4.65m6.5m9m (club option)12m (club option)FA
*Todd Wellemeyer SP1m(1.1m) (performance bonus-.1m) 4.05m




Mitchell Boggs SP-RP.39m (39 days= .083114m)Team Control
.4m (X Days=
.Xm)





Jaime Garcia SP-LHRP.39m (39 days= .083114m)Team Control





*Blake Hawksworth SPNot Called UpAAA
Team Control
.4m (X Days=
.Xm)






Mike Parisi SP-RP.39m (42 days= .089508m)Team Control




PJ Walters SP-RP.39m (42 days= .089508m)Team Control
.4m (X Days=
.Xm)





Blaine Boyer RP.39m (42 days= .089508m)Team Control
.4m (X Days=
.Xm) DFA 2008/06/04





Matt Clement SP1.5m.25m (buyout)





*Trever Miller LHRPTAMPA.5m
(2m max,+.2m=40gms,
+1.3m=70gms)
FA


Royce Ring LHRPATLANTA .475m (+.025m
perf. bonus) AAA
FA


Charlie Manning LHRPWASHINGTON Team ControlFA



*Dennys Reyes
LHRP
MINNESOTA 1m (+.25m?)
2m (+.25m?)FA



Jason Isringhausen RP8mTAMPA BAY





Russ Springer RP3.5mOAKLAND





*Ryan Franklin RP2.25m2.5m2.75m (club option= .25m buyout)FA


Randy Flores LHRP1mFA





Ron Villone LHRP.6mFA




*Brad Thompson SP-RP.414m (172 days= .389115m).65m




Tyler Johnson LHRP.398mSEATTLE





Kelvin Jiminez RP.39m (71 Days= .151311m)TOR-CHISOX




*Josh Kinney RP.39mTeam Control
.405m (X Days=
.Xm)






*Kyle McClellan RP.39mTeam Control
.410m (X Days=
.Xm)






*Jason Motte
RP
.39m 28 Days= .059672m)Team Control
.4m (X Days=
.Xm)






*Chris Perez RP.39m (118 Days= .251475m).402m (X Days=
.Xm) TRADED to
CLEVELAND





*Chris Perez RP.39m (118 Days= .251475m).402m (X Days=
.Xm) TRADED to
CLEVELAND





Jess Todd RP.39m (118 Days= .251475m)AAA Team Control
.402m (X Days=
.Xm)





Mark Worrell RP.39m (14 Days= .029836m)SAN DIEGO




Matthew Scherer
RHP
AA-AAANot Called UpTeam Control



Anthony Reyes
RP
.3925m (34 Days= .072923m) (traded to Cleveland)CLEVELAND




Infielders






*Albert Pujols 1b-2b-DH16m (13.2m) (3m deferred, paid in 10 no interest installments of 1.2m from 2020- 2029 and +.2m MVP)16m (13m) (3m deferred, paid in 10 no interest installments of 1.2m from 2020- 2029)16m (13m) (3m deferred, paid in 10 no interest installments of 1.2m from 2020- 2029)16m (13m) (club option and I guess the same deferrment of 3m)FA

*Troy Glaus 3b-1b-2b12.5m (10.45m) (.025m other- subtract 1.8m that was given to us by Toronto)11.25m (11.275m) (.025m other)FA



*Khalil Greene
SS
SAN DIEGO6.5mFA



*Khalil Greene
SS
SAN DIEGO6.5mFA



Felipe Lopez 2b-3b-SS-OF.39m (55 Days= .117213m)ARIZONA




Adam Kennedy
2b-OF
3.5m4m-released
FA TAMPA BAY- OAKLAND





Cesar Izturis SS-3b-2b2.85m () (performance bonus= 2m)BALTIMORE





Aaron Miles 2b-SS-3b- OF-RP1.4m (1.5m (performance bonus= .1m)CHICAGO




Josh Phelps 1b-OF.75m (1m)SAN FRANCISCO




*Brendan Ryan
2b-SS-3b-OF
.393m (155 Days= .332869m)Team Control
.405m (X Days=
.Xm)






*Brian Barden 3b-SS.39m (28 Days= .059672m)Team Control
.405m (X Days=
.Xm)





Jarret Hoffpauir
2b
Not Called UpAAA-Team Control




Tyler Greene SSAA-AAATeam Control
.405m (X Days=
.Xm)
Team Control



*Joe Thurston
2b-3b-OF
.39m (42 days= .089508m)Team Control
.4m (X Days=
.Xm)





Rico Washington 3b-OF.39m (21 Days= .044754m)FA




Scott Spiezio 1b-2b-3b-OF2.3m (released)FA .1m(buyout)




Outfielders






Juan Encarnacion OF6.5mFA




*Rick Ankiel OF.9m (.905m) (performance bonus= .1m)2.825mFA




*Ryan Ludwick OF.411m (.412m) (All-Star bonus= .01m)3.7m
(625PA=+.025m,
650PA= +.025m,
675PA= +.050m)

Arb. 4+



*Chris Duncan OF-1b.439m.825m
Arb.




*Skip Schumaker OF.396mTeam Control
.43m (X Days=
.Xm)






Brian Barton OF.39mtraded to ATLANTA





Cody Haerther OFNot Called UpTORONTO




*Colby Rasmus
OF
AAATeam Control
.4m (X Days=
.Xm)






Joe Mather OF-1b-3b.39m (83 Days= .176885m)AAA





Nick Stavinoha OF.39m (41 Days= .087377m)AAA-Team Control
.4m (X Days=
.Xm)






Shane Robinson
 OF
.39m (42 days= .089508m)AAA-Team Control
.4m (X Days=
.Xm)





Jim Edmonds OF2m SD-CHICAGOFA




Catchers






*Yadier Molina C-1b1.75m (2m) (.25m signing bonus)3.25m4.25m5.25m7mFA
*Jason LaRue C-1b.85m (.91m) (performance bonus= .06m).95m (+.05m if 60 starts)FA



Mark Johnson C.39m (28 Days= .059672m)CHICAGO




TOTAL
(*= on 25man roster)
103,343,51087,825,000
(91,148,000)
52,025,000
(including +4m  for Rolen's bonus)
49,625,00040,875,00012,000,000

Last edited 7/1/2009 4:52 PM by thejager

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Posted: 9/30/2008 3:01 PM

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Awesome jags.  Thanks
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Posted: 9/30/2008 3:10 PM

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That's great work. I hate to add to your load, but is there any way you can break that out by position? (SP, RP, IF, OF, Goners)?



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Posted: 9/30/2008 3:17 PM

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i could add their positions next to their names, and I might be willing to re-order them by SP/RP/IF/OF/C.

It won't be today though. I have already not worked too much at work today...even for my standards...jk
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Posted: 9/30/2008 4:16 PM

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thejager wrote: i could add their positions next to their names, and I might be willing to re-order them by SP/RP/IF/OF/C.

It won't be today though. I have already not worked too much at work today...even for my standards...jk

I think if you re-order them to positions, it will give us a better map to follow this offseason.  I think you can go ahead and put Mulder down for the buy-out, too, because there is no way they pick that option up.  No hurry, though.  Again, great work.



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Posted: 10/1/2008 6:26 AM

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Excellent work!




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Posted: 10/1/2008 7:48 AM

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That's a pretty cool chart.To some that only look at the current years payroll i'm sure Mo looks at something similiar to this.The biggest thing that sticks out here is Albert in 2013  and what he's going to cost and build the team around that.Notice Lohse's contract is up when Albert's is up.I wouldn't look for any 4 year deal for a pitcher next year.Good post!
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Posted: 10/1/2008 8:21 PM

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-updated to correct salary of callups with regards to the % of days up with the StL vs total days in season.
-updated to re-order players by position
-updated salary of Wainwright's salary to include signing bonus in 2008
-updated Josh Phelps salary for 2008
-updated total for year 2008 (now total is over 103mil!)
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Posted: 10/1/2008 8:37 PM

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Great work again Jags.

It's too bad that $17 mil in the bullpen didn't go to better use.
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Posted: 10/1/2008 9:56 PM

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What's sad is:

1. over half of our OF spending went to Encarnacion who didn't even get to put on a uniform this year. (6.5MM of 11.3MM)

2. almost half of our relief pitching spending went to Isringhausen who had a melt down this year. (8MM of 17.48MM)

3. almost half of our starting pitching spending went to starters who combined to start 4 games and pitch a total of 17 innings. (16.5MM of 36MM)
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Posted: 10/1/2008 10:04 PM

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The good news forsch is that at least 2/3 (if not all) of that changes next year.
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Posted: 10/3/2008 9:59 AM

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Quick estimates...

Assuming Wellemeyer, Ankiel, and Ludwick combine to $15MM, Pineiro and Kennedy are retained, one of Lopez and Miles are retained for $3MM, that totals approx. $86MM (with a few, 6, negligible league min. types unaccounted for if not upgraded--Mather, Schumaker, Rasmus , and a few of the bullpen folks).

That leaves approx. $15-20MM yet to spend (for a payroll in the $100-105MM range).

Trading Pineiro, Kennedy, and, I suppose, Glaus, could increase that number (although Pineiro and Kennedy would surely require us to eat some salary).

Could $15-20MM buy Furcal, Affeldt, and an incentive-laden deal to Brad Penny (retaining all prospects in the process)?  Would that be adequate?

 




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Posted: 10/3/2008 10:07 AM

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I think it could get at least 2 of those 3.

The issue will be whether or not the Dodgers offer Penny arb.  I doubt they will, but he is listed as Type B.
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Posted: 10/3/2008 10:35 AM

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kotheb wrote: I think it could get at least 2 of those 3.

The issue will be whether or not the Dodgers offer Penny arb.  I doubt they will, but he is listed as Type B.
I would be very surprised if the Dodgers offered him arbitration.

With Penny's injury concerns, I cannot imagine him getting more than $1-2MM guaranteed plus incentives.  I would throw $1-2MM at him to see if he rebounds.




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Posted: 10/6/2008 11:20 AM

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I just noticed that other than an option on Franklin, the Cardinals only have 5 players (Albert, Carp, Waino, Yadi, & Lohse) signed for 2010 and beyond.  That is a nice core, and they will have many more young players still under their control, but this seems like a lot of flexibility (or uncertainty depending on how you want to look at it) for the future.
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Posted: 10/6/2008 1:01 PM

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what i noticed right away was the excess of money potentially coming off the books after 2009...as much a deal as this years payroll alleviation has causes we have some big contracts coming off next year too...not to mention all fo the salary arb gusy we may not go to arb with again

Glaus-11.275
Piniero-7.5
Kennedy-4
potentially Franklin-2.75

that is about 25mil coming off next year's salary...and though we have raises due guys, we theoretically could only need to replace Piniero since Wallace or Freese might be ready for 3rd in 2010...potentially going into next years offseason just looking for one SP would be nice...makes me think we may only try to upgrade one of the middle infielder positions this offseason and fix the next one in 2010...a Miles/Lopez platoon at 2nd or SS woudl be fine for a year if we got an impact guy at the other spot...
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Posted: 10/7/2008 9:36 AM

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Oquendo11 wrote: I just noticed that other than an option on Franklin, the Cardinals only have 5 players (Albert, Carp, Waino, Yadi, & Lohse) signed for 2010 and beyond.  That is a nice core, and they will have many more young players still under their control, but this seems like a lot of flexibility (or uncertainty depending on how you want to look at it) for the future.
It would seem a lot of that would be riding on the health of Carpenter.
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Posted: 10/7/2008 10:54 AM

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cards13 wrote:
It would seem a lot of that would be riding on the health of Carpenter.
Health is usual the biggest concern with a long term contract.  Right now it looks like Carp is the biggest health risk, but for all we know Carp maybe more healthy in the future than Pujols.
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Posted: 10/7/2008 3:10 PM

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update..i am having trouble uploading my update (arbitration candidates and years service) it is telling me i have too big of a file to put in....which is weird since i barely added anything...anyone know how to shrink a word document down?
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Posted: 10/7/2008 6:08 PM

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tries that already...hmmm
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