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Minor league thread: Sat 8/16

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Posted: 8/16/2014 7:39 AM

Minor league thread: Sat 8/16 


Memphis at El Paso: John Gast

Springfield vs. Midland: Mike Mayers

Palm Beach at Fort Myers (2): Jimmy Reed/Silfredo Garcia

Peoria at Cedar Rapids: Arturo Reyes

State College at Auburn: Trey Nielsen

Johnson City at Elizabethton

GCL Cards at Nationals: Dylan Hawkins

DSL Cards at Yankees1: Derian Gonzalez

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Posted: 8/16/2014 8:51 AM

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While checking box scores last night, notice CMart had went 2.1 innings scoreless and the game was in delay. Looks like the game was PPD from there. Do not think he has been scored on yet in his couple of appearances for Memphis.

So with work last night that does not go in the books, do not be surprised or wonder what happen to him if he does not pitch for few more days.
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Posted: 8/16/2014 8:58 AM

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Carlos has had a couple nice efficient outings at Memphis so far. The org sure does keep his pitch count down, though. A big issue with him was inability to go deep in games. That will continue to be an issue if he is an 80 pitch guy. There is no role for that guy in MLB. At some point he will either have to go 100 or be a reliever. If he is going to be a serious rotation candidate next spring, I's like to see evidence of it in the form of working up his pitch count here the next couple starts in the PCL. He is not likely to get that chance when he comes back up later. If he comes back up later.

The org has moved Mayers up pretty aggressively considering he hasn't been dominant at any level before moving up. He continues to keep the ball in the park and not walk too many. He's pretty consistent and efficient, getting 5-7 innings out of 80-90 pitches every time out. That's a workable package I guess. I imagine he'll be in the Memphis rotation next year at age 23. He could spend a couple years there before age would begin to be a factor in considering his future. His development path so far is very much like Joe Kelly's. He doesn't have that velocity, though, but I'm not sure Joe did either at age 22.
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Posted: 8/16/2014 11:20 AM

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Martinez will go again tonight? - that's not normal
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Posted: 8/16/2014 11:27 AM

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Not mentioned in the daily farm report as that David Aardsma made a reab appearance in the GCL fame last night striking out 2 batters in a perfect inning.   If he pitches these last 2 weeks like he did the last month before his injury he could get a look in September.
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Posted: 8/16/2014 1:01 PM

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CariocaCardinal wrote: Not mentioned in the daily farm report as that David Aardsma made a reab appearance in the GCL fame last night striking out 2 batters in a perfect inning.   If he pitches these last 2 weeks like he did the last month before his injury he could get a look in September.
Hmmm....  From this morning's report:

"...David Aardsma’s trek back to Memphis from the disabled list began with a one-two-three sixth in which he struck out two. Steven De La Cruz matched Aardsma’s performance in the seventh..."
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Posted: 8/16/2014 1:07 PM

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VegasjJim wrote: While checking box scores last night, notice CMart had went 2.1 innings scoreless and the game was in delay. Looks like the game was PPD from there. Do not think he has been scored on yet in his couple of appearances for Memphis.

So with work last night that does not go in the books, do not be surprised or wonder what happen to him if he does not pitch for few more days.
We missed that as MiLB.com does not show the partial game in yesterday's results and the Redbirds did not send out an advisory. .

However, by entering the URL directly, you can see the box score details. Obviously given that, Martinez would not pitch today. The Saturday starter was previously announced as John Gast (3-2, 4.85). I have updated the materials to reflect that. Thanks for calling it out.
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Posted: 8/16/2014 1:08 PM

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P-D had a nice interview with Aardsma recently in which he states his hope for a full recovery and a September callup.
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Posted: 8/16/2014 1:20 PM

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Jmodene1 wrote: P-D had a nice interview with Aardsma recently in which he states his hope for a full recovery and a September callup.
He only has a couple of weeks to prove he is ready, but he would have been in St. Louis long ago had he not been injured.
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Posted: 8/16/2014 1:42 PM

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Indeed. I hadn't realized, too, that the injury was serious enough for Aardsma to have surgery. But I'd like to see him get the call, if only so the baseball recordbooks will lead off with a Cardinal. ;)


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Jmodene1 wrote: P-D had a nice interview with Aardsma recently in which he states his hope for a full recovery and a September callup.
He only has a couple of weeks to prove he is ready, but he would have been in St. Louis long ago had he not been injured.

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Posted: 8/16/2014 1:47 PM

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Aardsma could get another week or two of opportunities, BTW - while the regular season ends September 1, there's still the postseason.

This requires management, of course, to walk a bit of a tightrope between calling guys up on 9/1 or waiting for Memphis' postseason to be done. That's one reason, I guess, why there's more roster flexibility for the minor-league postseason than in the majors.
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Posted: 8/16/2014 1:51 PM

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Jmodene1 wrote: Aardsma could get another week or two of opportunities, BTW - while the regular season ends September 1, there's still the postseason.

This requires management, of course, to walk a bit of a tightrope between calling guys up on 9/1 or waiting for Memphis' postseason to be done. That's one reason, I guess, why there's more roster flexibility for the minor-league postseason than in the majors.
Remember that post season qualification is not assured unless the player is in the majors by August 31. There are ways to potentially get around it, but it is not automatic.
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Posted: 8/16/2014 2:17 PM

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Right - either be up by August 31 or having been up at some point before then, which qualifies guys like Grichuk, Kozma, Gonzales, Fornutaro, and Rondon - to say nothing of Carlos Martinez. A guy like Pham or Piscotty, OTOH, would have to be called up before 9/1 since they've not yet served in the majors this season.
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Posted: 8/16/2014 2:30 PM

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blingboy wrote: Carlos has had a couple nice efficient outings at Memphis so far. The org sure does keep his pitch count down, though. A big issue with him was inability to go deep in games. That will continue to be an issue if he is an 80 pitch guy. There is no role for that guy in MLB. At some point he will either have to go 100 or be a reliever. If he is going to be a serious rotation candidate next spring, I's like to see evidence of it in the form of working up his pitch count here the next couple starts in the PCL. He is not likely to get that chance when he comes back up later. If he comes back up later.

The org has moved Mayers up pretty aggressively considering he hasn't been dominant at any level before moving up. He continues to keep the ball in the park and not walk too many. He's pretty consistent and efficient, getting 5-7 innings out of 80-90 pitches every time out. That's a workable package I guess. I imagine he'll be in the Memphis rotation next year at age 23. He could spend a couple years there before age would begin to be a factor in considering his future. His development path so far is very much like Joe Kelly's. He doesn't have that velocity, though, but I'm not sure Joe did either at age 22.
Mayers has some similarities too a Kelly but your right he doesn't have the stuff nor velocity that Kelly in which made him a top 10-20 prospect when the system was at it's highest point. They are similar into getting ground-ball outs, not having swing and miss stuff despite the velocity, and I would go as far saying Mayers has better pitchability than Kelly does.
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Posted: 8/16/2014 7:17 PM

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The State College game has been postponed. It will be made up as part of a doubleheader Sunday afternoon at Auburn.
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Posted: 8/17/2014 2:31 PM

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Domeboys wrote:
CariocaCardinal wrote: Not mentioned in the daily farm report as that David Aardsma made a reab appearance in the GCL fame last night striking out 2 batters in a perfect inning.   If he pitches these last 2 weeks like he did the last month before his injury he could get a look in September.
Hmmm....  From this morning's report:

"...David Aardsma’s trek back to Memphis from the disabled list began with a one-two-three sixth in which he struck out two. Steven De La Cruz matched Aardsma’s performance in the seventh..."
Hmmm....... since all the other names in the report were highlighted it would seem easy to miss.
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Posted: 8/17/2014 2:37 PM

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Mixed feelings about an Aardsma  call up.   I only call him up if I think he has some chance to be a difference maker.   He is a FA at the end of the season even if on the 40 man roster so there is no value in a call up for any other reason.  Or, we he signs for a reasonable price for next year as a condition of his call up.
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Posted: 8/17/2014 3:00 PM

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CariocaCardinal wrote:
Domeboys wrote:
CariocaCardinal wrote: Not mentioned in the daily farm report as that David Aardsma made a reab appearance in the GCL fame last night striking out 2 batters in a perfect inning.   If he pitches these last 2 weeks like he did the last month before his injury he could get a look in September.
Hmmm....  From this morning's report:

"...David Aardsma’s trek back to Memphis from the disabled list began with a one-two-three sixth in which he struck out two. Steven De La Cruz matched Aardsma’s performance in the seventh..."
Hmmm....... since all the other names in the report were highlighted it would seem easy to miss.
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