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2014 MLB game #115: Cards at Orioles: Sat 8/9

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Posted: 8/7/2014 8:19 PM

2014 MLB game #115: Cards at Orioles: Sat 8/9 


John Lackey (1‐0, 2.57) vs. TBA. 3:05 p.m. CT. FOX Sports Midwest, FOX Sports One and KMOX.

Update: Ubaldo Jimenez (3-8, 4.52) is the Baltimore starter.

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Last edited 8/9/2014 8:56 AM by Domeboys

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Posted: 8/9/2014 8:50 AM

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Cards enter this one in third place but still right there for a wc spot. The NL has become a really weak league. I wouldn't give any of the current division leaders a chance in the WS.
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Posted: 8/9/2014 8:52 AM

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Jimenez listed starter for this game, Gausman tomorrow.
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Posted: 8/9/2014 8:57 AM

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SD70Mac wrote: Cards enter this one in third place but still right there for a wc spot. The NL has become a really weak league. I wouldn't give any of the current division leaders a chance in the WS.
Wow. You can tell which teams will be hot two months into the future? You should head to Vegas...  ;-)
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Posted: 8/9/2014 9:03 AM

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ageelaw wrote: Jimenez listed starter for this game, Gausman tomorrow.
Updated. Thanks.
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Posted: 8/9/2014 9:18 AM

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Domeboys wrote:
SD70Mac wrote: Cards enter this one in third place but still right there for a wc spot. The NL has become a really weak league. I wouldn't give any of the current division leaders a chance in the WS.
Wow. You can tell which teams will be hot two months into the future? You should head to Vegas...  ;-)



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Posted: 8/9/2014 9:44 AM

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Even Ricky Horton had to admit last night that the AL has become the stronger league. No OBJECTIVE baseball people even try to argue the point.
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Posted: 8/9/2014 9:50 AM

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SD70Mac wrote: Even Ricky Horton had to admit last night that the AL has become the stronger league. No OBJECTIVE baseball people even try to argue the point.
You cannot seem to draw the distinction between two different points. Which league appears stronger is NOT the same as which team will eventually win the World Series. In your world, it seems the "best" team on paper always wins. That is not the case in the real world.
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Posted: 8/9/2014 10:13 AM

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Well, I guess we'll finish this discussion in late October, okay? See ya then.
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Posted: 8/9/2014 10:24 AM

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Man, what a disaster last night was. Hopefully Lackey can keep us in the game tonight.

It's sort of funny how Lackey's W-L record shows only his St. Louis numbers. It used to be that players traded between leagues in mid-season would have their stats reset, and the box scores would show only their new league numbers.

But today the leagues are so melded, the numbers should show their full seasoin records. Back when the leagues were a lot more autonomous, it made some sense to show league numbers only. But baseball has gone the way of the sports that went through mergers and is essentially one big league now called "MLB". The "leagues" are in name only, but operate as conferences.
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Posted: 8/9/2014 10:33 AM

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well,
Masterson's outing was one of the worst I've seen
(including his 1st outing as a Cardinal) for a traded player, ever...

need to look better of the O's will show batting practice again  this weekend..

\O's order is dangerous...and Nelson Cruz is playing tired...
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Posted: 8/9/2014 10:50 AM

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bicyclemike wrote: Man, what a disaster last night was. Hopefully Lackey can keep us in the game tonight.

It's sort of funny how Lackey's W-L record shows only his St. Louis numbers. It used to be that players traded between leagues in mid-season would have their stats reset, and the box scores would show only their new league numbers.

But today the leagues are so melded, the numbers should show their full seasoin records. Back when the leagues were a lot more autonomous, it made some sense to show league numbers only. But baseball has gone the way of the sports that went through mergers and is essentially one big league now called "MLB". The "leagues" are in name only, but operate as conferences.
I suppose for completeness, I could show both StL and overall numbers. In picking one, I chose the one that best reflects the Cardinals focus of the readers here.

(In their media notes, I find the StL comms folks generally pick the view that is less negative-appearing. For Masterson's next start, they show 5-7, 5.94 instead of 1-1, 11.25.)

On your broader point, there is also the continuous interleague play that is inherent with Houston moving to the AL and 15-team leagues ensuing. In future years, it will be interesting to see if MLB gradually increases the interleague component of the schedule. 

Of course, doing that without settling the DH issue once and for all, would be the MLB way...

P.S. I would love to be optimistic that the new commissioner would address a bunch of Bud's skeletons, like the DH and TV blackouts. However, given the three apparent finalists are all Selig understudies, it seems we are in for more of the same ahead.
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Posted: 8/9/2014 11:37 AM

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Lineup: Carpenter, Wong, Holliday, Adams, Peralta DH, Taveras, Pierzynski, Jay, Descalso 6.
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Posted: 8/9/2014 11:39 AM

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Domeboys wrote:
bicyclemike wrote: Man, what a disaster last night was. Hopefully Lackey can keep us in the game tonight.

It's sort of funny how Lackey's W-L record shows only his St. Louis numbers. It used to be that players traded between leagues in mid-season would have their stats reset, and the box scores would show only their new league numbers.

But today the leagues are so melded, the numbers should show their full seasoin records. Back when the leagues were a lot more autonomous, it made some sense to show league numbers only. But baseball has gone the way of the sports that went through mergers and is essentially one big league now called "MLB". The "leagues" are in name only, but operate as conferences.
I suppose for completeness, I could show both StL and overall numbers. In picking one, I chose the one that best reflects the Cardinals focus of the readers here.

(In their media notes, I find the StL comms folks generally pick the view that is less negative-appearing. For Masterson's next start, they show 5-7, 5.94 instead of 1-1, 11.25.)

On your broader point, there is also the continuous interleague play that is inherent with Houston moving to the AL and 15-team leagues ensuing. In future years, it will be interesting to see if MLB gradually increases the interleague component of the schedule. 

Of course, doing that without settling the DH issue once and for all, would be the MLB way...

P.S. I would love to be optimistic that the new commissioner would address a bunch of Bud's skeletons, like the DH and TV blackouts. However, given the three apparent finalists are all Selig understudies, it seems we are in for more of the same ahead.
Yeah, there are things that need attention. The most galring is the DH of course, and all of the momentum is going the way of using it. With inter-league play fairly common now you really don't hear much outcry about the DH other than an occasional impassioned plea to keep the game "pure". 

But times change, and we've gone way past the way things were in the "golden age". I go to Rockies' games and the game is almost a side event there. The thing to do is to be seen and socialize. They've got so many bars and lounge areas, and an almost like carnival area for kids that many people go more for an overall social event rather than to watch a ball game.
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Posted: 8/9/2014 1:52 PM

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I can imagine what crdswmn thinks of the lineup.
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Posted: 8/9/2014 2:03 PM

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blingboy wrote: I can imagine what crdswmn thinks of the lineup.
What ever happened to her anyway?
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Posted: 8/9/2014 3:49 PM

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Baltimore has now plated 16 runs in 17 innings during Lackey's four starts against them this year. banghead
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Posted: 8/9/2014 4:09 PM

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ageelaw wrote: Baltimore has now plated 16 runs in 17 innings during Lackey's four starts against them this year. banghead
Add two more.

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Posted: 8/9/2014 4:38 PM

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Well bless my soul...Holiday got a "hit". Matt A. needs to get on track too.
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Posted: 8/9/2014 4:51 PM

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Must be nice to see what a real offense can really do. And for the cards what an emabressment so far
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