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DH vs. Baltimore

Posted: 8/4/2014 9:22 AM

DH vs. Baltimore 


Looking ahead to the Orioles series...who serves as our DH?  If Jay's healthy enough the bench is Bourjos, Robinson, Ellis, Descalso, and Cruz.  Cruz will presumably sit as backup C.  Robinson, Ellis, and Descalso have sub-.500 OPS.  I suppose that makes Bourjos the default.  (More likely Bourjos in the OF with the other OF's each taking a turn at DH for a bit of rest.)

Any chance that they brought up Robinson (rather than someone else) because of Jay's injury?  If so, and if Jay looks good to go against Boston might they bring someone else up to DH for the the Baltimore series?  If so, who gets the nod?  Could be just a three day callup.  Pham? Scruggs? Grichuk?  Seems unlikely to be Piscotty since they seem to want to keep him off the 40-man roster this offseason.  I'd love to see Pham or Scruggs get a quick look, though my bet is the roster stays the same.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 9:42 AM

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I think Jay and Bourjos will both play OF and Holliday will get the DH. I could also see one of the Memphis guys getting a chance one day. But yeah, we don't have the nice DH setup anymore.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 11:13 AM

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Griscuk...(spelling)

bring up
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Posted: 8/4/2014 11:21 AM

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I agree with bigins. I expect the lineup to be:

3B Carpenter
2B Wong
DH Holliday
1B Adams
SS Peralta
C Pierzynski
RF Taveras
LF Jay
CF Bourjos
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Posted: 8/4/2014 12:12 PM

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GScottAR wrote: I agree with bigins. I expect the lineup to be:

3B Carpenter
2B Wong
DH Holliday
1B Adams
SS Peralta
C Pierzynski
RF Taveras
LF Jay
CF Bourjos
Yeah, I think that's the best way to do it.  Ironically, the DH, which is theoretically an offense-enhancing rule, will probably help us more defensively than offensively.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:50 AM

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Should be Tommy Pham. He represents the best possible player. It will like be Bourjos taking the reigns in center and Holliday and Taveras splitting DH
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:07 AM

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PadsFS wrote: Should be Tommy Pham. He represents the best possible player. It will like be Bourjos taking the reigns in center and Holliday and Taveras splitting DH
As I noted in the Player of the Month writeup, Pham hit .380 in July. His BABIP, however, was an unsustainable .529. 24 of his 27 hits were singles.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 10:46 AM

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Well, Brian, singles are still hits, are they not?  But I don't know much about Pham; how's his speed?  What about his defense?
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Posted: 8/5/2014 11:13 AM

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Brosky wrote: Well, Brian, singles are still hits, are they not?  But I don't know much about Pham; how's his speed?  What about his defense?
Pham's probably a plus defender anywhere you put him in the outfield because of his athleticism. Even got a strong throwing arm that helped in when he was on the mound pumping low-to-mid 90s heat back in high school. His natural athletic abilities let his speed play up but he's probably not going to steal for a high amount of bases in the majors. I haven't seen Pham for two years but he's a specimen of a player and is worthy of shot to as much of adversity he's gone through.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 11:29 AM

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Domeboys wrote:
PadsFS wrote: Should be Tommy Pham. He represents the best possible player. It will like be Bourjos taking the reigns in center and Holliday and Taveras splitting DH
As I noted in the Player of the Month writeup, Pham hit .380 in July. His BABIP, however, was an unsustainable .529. 24 of his 27 hits were singles.


I like the fact that he is somewhat quick (11 for 13 in SBs, 4 triples) and he plays good defense, even in CF. It's not just about hitting since we can shift Holliday into the DH spot just to get him some rest.

It's been about 4 weeks since Molina went on the DL. It's too bad the Orioles series will be our last American League series for the year.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 3:35 PM

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Domeboys wrote:
PadsFS wrote: Should be Tommy Pham. He represents the best possible player. It will like be Bourjos taking the reigns in center and Holliday and Taveras splitting DH
As I noted in the Player of the Month writeup, Pham hit .380 in July. His BABIP, however, was an unsustainable .529. 24 of his 27 hits were singles.


I like the fact that he is somewhat quick (11 for 13 in SBs, 4 triples) and he plays good defense, even in CF. It's not just about hitting since we can shift Holliday into the DH spot just to get him some rest.

It's been about 4 weeks since Molina went on the DL. It's too bad the Orioles series will be our last American League series for the year.

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Well, until October, anyway...
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Posted: 8/5/2014 4:09 PM

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Brian,

I saw that BABIP info. Thanks.  That does temper my Pham-fanism a bit.  I'm still curious about the guy.  And I think I'd be curious to see what he or Scruggs could do given the opportunity. The bench just doesn't excite me at this point.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 4:19 PM

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Though Pham has come on this season, his career minor league numbers are quite similar to Robinson's.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 10:02 PM

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Domeboys wrote: Though Pham has come on this season, his career minor league numbers are quite similar to Robinson's.
Pham's skill-set gives him an edge over Robinson though.
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Posted: 8/6/2014 1:32 AM

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Not that I could tell tonight and honestly Shane was the 5th OF going in. I don't think he's great but he slumped early and when you are a 5th of with 3-4 prospects breathing down ones neck its easy to give up on him.

Honestly I could see AJ Peirzynski DH a game or two in this series with Cruz catching. I could see Holiday as a DH for one of the games with Shane or Jay in LF.  People do forget Holiday is according to the number a solid LF'er.

 Suggested U. of Illinois mascots

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Posted: 8/6/2014 7:19 AM

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The risk of using the reserve catcher as the DH is that if he has to enter the game behind the plate, then the pitchers have to hit the rest of the way. The Cards might do it once in the series, but I would be very surprised if they did it twice.

I think it is more likely that some player(s) we don't know are dinged up and might especially benefit from a day of rest from playing in the field. Guys like Carpenter, Peralta and Adams who play every day.

I don't know if it has been said, but I wonder if Carpenter is the new reserve first baseman?
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Posted: 8/6/2014 8:53 AM

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Domeboys wrote: The risk of using the reserve catcher as the DH is that if he has to enter the game behind the plate, then the pitchers have to hit the rest of the way. The Cards might do it once in the series, but I would be very surprised if they did it twice.

I think it is more likely that some player(s) we don't know are dinged up and might especially benefit from a day of rest from playing in the field. Guys like Carpenter, Peralta and Adams who play every day.

I don't know if it has been said, but I wonder if Carpenter is the new reserve first baseman?
I would imagine so.  I'd rather see him at 1B than Ellis or Descalso, if only because he has more games at first - although it would mean that one of those two would be playing third in Carpenter's place.

Darn Mo, anyway, for not picking up guys like Headley and Byrd and other starting players to augment our bench.
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Posted: 8/6/2014 9:00 AM

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Jmodene1 wrote:
Domeboys wrote: The risk of using the reserve catcher as the DH is that if he has to enter the game behind the plate, then the pitchers have to hit the rest of the way. The Cards might do it once in the series, but I would be very surprised if they did it twice.

I think it is more likely that some player(s) we don't know are dinged up and might especially benefit from a day of rest from playing in the field. Guys like Carpenter, Peralta and Adams who play every day.

I don't know if it has been said, but I wonder if Carpenter is the new reserve first baseman?
I would imagine so.  I'd rather see him at 1B than Ellis or Descalso, if only because he has more games at first - although it would mean that one of those two would be playing third in Carpenter's place.

Darn Mo, anyway, for not picking up guys like Headley and Byrd and other starting players to augment our bench.
Headley is a very good player and should not be a reserve for any team. All he might do would be to push Wong to the bench. There is still a chance of a waiver deal to strengthen the bench... but sadly, if there is an internal tug of war over playing Taveras every day, not acquiring a proven starter like Byrd to create another playing time controversy in RF may be better for the long haul.
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Posted: 8/6/2014 9:19 AM

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Agreed.  My sarcasm/hyperbole meter was running, as I do get tired of people thinking we should augment our bench with guys who are starting players elsewhere.
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Posted: 8/6/2014 9:20 AM

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Jmodene1 wrote: Agreed.  My sarcasm/hyperbole meter was running, as I do get tired of people thinking we should augment our bench with guys who are starting players elsewhere.
Gotcha.
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