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Minor league thread: Mon 6/30

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Posted: 6/30/2014 7:02 AM

Minor league thread: Mon 6/30 


Memphis at Nashville: Boone Whiting

Springfield vs. San Antonio (2): Kyle Hald/Sam Gaviglio

Palm Beach at Fort Myers: Joe Cuda

Peoria vs. Quad Cities: Rob Kaminsky

State College off

Johnson City vs. Kingsport (2): Dailyn Martinez/Matt Pearce

GCL Cards at Marlins: Ronnie Williams

DSL Cards at Giants: Jesus Narvaez

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Posted: 6/30/2014 2:27 PM

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Jeff Moore'd writeup on Frederis Parra which was the only visible writeup in this week's Momday Morning Ten Pack on Baseball Prospectus:

Frederis Parra, RHP, GCL Cardinals
Tall, lean 19-year-old right-hander who looked to be taller than the 6-foot-3 he was listed at. Great pitcher's body that should hold more weight. Player has a quick arm and extremely loose arm action that generates easy velocity. Fastball sat between 90-94 over six innings of work and he maintained his velocity. The pitch has little movement but he generates a good downward plane. Pitcher used his fastball exclusively for first three innings and was still effective. Featured a slider at 77-78 mph with hard downward break. Pitch was inconsistent at present but further along than most GCL sliders and showed the potential to be a plus pitch. Changeup was currently ahead of the slider and was a present average pitch on the day I saw him. Player was consistent with the pitch and threw it for strikes. Features only some arm-side fade, but his quick arm speed created additional deception. Will be a plus pitch when he learns to generate more movement on the pitch.

This is Parra's first stateside experience, which is the only reason he's still in a complex league. His pure stuff is good enough for a full-season league right now and he will likely be promoted to a short-season league after a few starts. Parra is currently better than some of the guys in the Cardinals’ Palm Beach (High-A) rotation. He is still extremely far away and is a high-risk prospect, but he has a high ceiling. Potential 2/3 starter. –Jeff Moore

www.baseballprospectus.com/art...articleid=24028
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Posted: 6/30/2014 11:55 PM

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Rob Kaminsky lowered his ERA to 1.26 and OBA to .181  with 7 shutout IP's while yielding 3 H's, no BB's to go with 7K's.  Not too bad. 

Peoria has gotten back-back, strong performances from Jenkins and RobK.
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Posted: 7/1/2014 12:09 AM

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You mean Reyes? Jenkins is in Palm Beach? I wish I would have gone to the game today in Peoria.
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Posted: 7/1/2014 6:18 AM

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scadder21 wrote: You mean Reyes? Jenkins is in Palm Beach? I wish I would have gone to the game today in Peoria.
Thank you. 

However, I was thinking of Jenkins.  Looking forward to his next start.  Is he actually fulfilling his potential?
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Posted: 7/1/2014 8:37 AM

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scadder21 wrote: You mean Reyes? Jenkins is in Palm Beach? I wish I would have gone to the game today in Peoria.

I would love to see Kaminsky and Reyes in Palm Beach with Jenkins by August. That would be quite the progress. Perhaps Weaver and Morales can spell them in Peoria too.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 5:09 PM

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DTFlush234 wrote: Jeff Moore'd writeup on Frederis Parra which was the only visible writeup in this week's Momday Morning Ten Pack on Baseball Prospectus:

Frederis Parra, RHP, GCL Cardinals
Tall, lean 19-year-old right-hander who looked to be taller than the 6-foot-3 he was listed at. Great pitcher's body that should hold more weight. Player has a quick arm and extremely loose arm action that generates easy velocity. Fastball sat between 90-94 over six innings of work and he maintained his velocity. The pitch has little movement but he generates a good downward plane. Pitcher used his fastball exclusively for first three innings and was still effective. Featured a slider at 77-78 mph with hard downward break. Pitch was inconsistent at present but further along than most GCL sliders and showed the potential to be a plus pitch. Changeup was currently ahead of the slider and was a present average pitch on the day I saw him. Player was consistent with the pitch and threw it for strikes. Features only some arm-side fade, but his quick arm speed created additional deception. Will be a plus pitch when he learns to generate more movement on the pitch.

This is Parra's first stateside experience, which is the only reason he's still in a complex league. His pure stuff is good enough for a full-season league right now and he will likely be promoted to a short-season league after a few starts. Parra is currently better than some of the guys in the Cardinals’ Palm Beach (High-A) rotation. He is still extremely far away and is a high-risk prospect, but he has a high ceiling. Potential 2/3 starter. –Jeff Moore

www.baseballprospectus.com/art...articleid=24028
I'm much more intrigued by his team mate Julio Mateos.   He is a year younger and his stats blow Parra's out of the water.   I read somewhere he hits 94.   Any one have anymore info on him?

Last edited 7/2/2014 5:10 PM by CariocaCardinal

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Posted: 7/2/2014 5:37 PM

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So Cards going to sign any international prospects? Seems like lots of other teams been very busy today...
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Posted: 7/2/2014 8:15 PM

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I read on another site the Cardinals signed two players to moderately sized contracts -- Starling Balbuena and Junior Fernandez.

In other international signing news, it appears the reports the Yankees were going to spit on the MLB international signing restrictions has come to fruition.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/...lson-gomez.html

Those are some big bonuses being reported and I believe they only had around $2.1 M allotted to them. That's going to be be some big luxury taxes for them to pay. I'm not sure about the other penalties, but I think going over that much pretty much takes them out of contention for signing a big bonus international player for the next two seasons.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 8:21 PM

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KylMss wrote: I read on another site the Cardinals signed two players to moderately sized contracts -- Starling Balbuena and Junior Fernandez.

In other international signing news, it appears the reports the Yankees were going to spit on the MLB international signing restrictions has come to fruition.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/...lson-gomez.html

Those are some big bonuses being reported and I believe they only had around $2.1 M allotted to them. That's going to be be some big luxury taxes for them to pay. I'm not sure about the other penalties, but I think going over that much pretty much takes them out of contention for signing a big bonus international player for the next two seasons.
Yanks are cleaning up in international prospects so far, that is one way to reload the minors in a hurry
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Posted: 7/2/2014 9:57 PM

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TCRedbird wrote:
KylMss wrote: I read on another site the Cardinals signed two players to moderately sized contracts -- Starling Balbuena and Junior Fernandez.

In other international signing news, it appears the reports the Yankees were going to spit on the MLB international signing restrictions has come to fruition.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/...lson-gomez.html

Those are some big bonuses being reported and I believe they only had around $2.1 M allotted to them. That's going to be be some big luxury taxes for them to pay. I'm not sure about the other penalties, but I think going over that much pretty much takes them out of contention for signing a big bonus international player for the next two seasons.
Yanks are cleaning up in international prospects so far, that is one way to reload the minors in a hurry
Not reloading until the talent actually develops and producing stateside. All there doing is spending millions of dollars on risk.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 10:09 PM

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DTFlush234 wrote:
TCRedbird wrote:
KylMss wrote: I read on another site the Cardinals signed two players to moderately sized contracts -- Starling Balbuena and Junior Fernandez.

In other international signing news, it appears the reports the Yankees were going to spit on the MLB international signing restrictions has come to fruition.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/...lson-gomez.html

Those are some big bonuses being reported and I believe they only had around $2.1 M allotted to them. That's going to be be some big luxury taxes for them to pay. I'm not sure about the other penalties, but I think going over that much pretty much takes them out of contention for signing a big bonus international player for the next two seasons.
Yanks are cleaning up in international prospects so far, that is one way to reload the minors in a hurry
Not reloading until the talent actually develops and producing stateside. All there doing is spending millions of dollars on risk.
Best way to overspend on talent knowing that you can't do that in the State side draft anymore without losing a future pick.
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Posted: 7/3/2014 7:56 AM

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scadder21 wrote: Best way to overspend on talent knowing that you can't do that in the State side draft anymore without losing a future pick.

I wouldn't call it the best way.
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Posted: 7/3/2014 8:11 AM

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So.  What penalty do the Yankees suffer if they ignore MLB mandates in 2015-17?  What's in place to keep them from overspending in future years?  Supposedly they will have bonus limits the next 3 years; but why should they heed them?
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Posted: 7/3/2014 10:25 AM

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MagnoliaCardFan wrote: So.  What penalty do the Yankees suffer if they ignore MLB mandates in 2015-17?  What's in place to keep them from overspending in future years?  Supposedly they will have bonus limits the next 3 years; but why should they heed them?

I am pretty sure the penalty is that if you overspend your allotment this year, then you aren't allowed to offer more than a $250,000 contract to any one player the following year.

Once you break the budget though, it makes zero sense not to go after every top prospect, like the Cubs did last year with Torres, Tseng, and Eloy.

Last edited 7/3/2014 10:26 AM by PadsFS

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Posted: 7/3/2014 10:34 AM

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PadsFS wrote:
scadder21 wrote: Best way to overspend on talent knowing that you can't do that in the State side draft anymore without losing a future pick.

I wouldn't call it the best way.

What would you rather lose out on spending 3 mil for a 16 year old kid from Latin America, even if a good prospect a very long shot.  Or losing your future 1st round pick?  It seems that this way has a much lesser chance of hurting them in the future.
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Posted: 7/3/2014 10:34 AM

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PadsFS wrote:
MagnoliaCardFan wrote: So.  What penalty do the Yankees suffer if they ignore MLB mandates in 2015-17?  What's in place to keep them from overspending in future years?  Supposedly they will have bonus limits the next 3 years; but why should they heed them?

I am pretty sure the penalty is that if you overspend your allotment this year, then you aren't allowed to offer more than a $250,000 contract to any one player the following year.

Once you break the budget though, it makes zero sense not to go after every top prospect, like the Cubs did last year with Torres, Tseng, and Eloy.
My understanding is similar to yours in that they have a lowered limit for individual bonuses (boni?) the next 3 years.  But what if they exceed the limit?  Not exactly unlike this year.  i.e., What punishment is there, that is severe enough, to keep the NYY organization from going totally rogue? 

Suggestion:  Let the overbudget $$ come out of the June amateur draft allotment--therefore, NYY will not have a draft pick before the 11th round for 2015 and 2016.



EDIT:  Clarity

Last edited 7/3/2014 10:47 AM by MagnoliaCardFan

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