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Albert Pujols & 2014

Posted: 11/15/2013 8:24 PM

Albert Pujols & 2014 


Anybody know whats up with our ex slugger here?  Is he healing, expected to be fully recovered by opening day 2014?  And if so anybody care to speculate as to how he'll perform next year?

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Posted: 11/15/2013 8:55 PM

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RatsBuddy wrote: Anybody know whats up with our ex slugger here?  Is he healing, expected to be fully recovered by opening day 2014?  And if so anybody care to speculate as to how he'll perform next year?

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I would have to care about it first.
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Posted: 11/15/2013 10:36 PM

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crdswmn wrote:
RatsBuddy wrote: Anybody know whats up with our ex slugger here?  Is he healing, expected to be fully recovered by opening day 2014?  And if so anybody care to speculate as to how he'll perform next year?

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I would have to care about it first.
Hopefully he continues to make the state of California regret giving in to his greed.
"It is by the goodness of God that in our country we have those 3 unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, & the prudence never to practice either of them." Mark Twain
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Posted: 11/15/2013 10:39 PM

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Beopig wrote:
crdswmn wrote:
RatsBuddy wrote: Anybody know whats up with our ex slugger here?  Is he healing, expected to be fully recovered by opening day 2014?  And if so anybody care to speculate as to how he'll perform next year?

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I would have to care about it first.
Hopefully he continues to make the state of California regret giving in to his greed.
I don't have any ill will toward Pujols for signing with the Angels.  Baseball is a business and players are entitled to make as much money as they can.

I just don't have any further interest in Pujols.  It is simple indifference.
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Posted: 11/15/2013 11:36 PM

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I would expect a nice season but not worth paying 25 million for.

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Posted: 11/16/2013 12:05 PM

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it seems pujols is recovering nicely and he says his foot is 99.9% healed.  during his run with the cards he was one of the best players in the game, and since the sting of losing him is gone, and b/c i love baseball, i hope he has an amazing season.

he'll probably never return to where he was in st. louis, but i think i nice 3 year run of dominance would be a joy to watch.
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Posted: 11/16/2013 1:07 PM

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crdswmn wrote:
Beopig wrote:
crdswmn wrote:
RatsBuddy wrote: Anybody know whats up with our ex slugger here?  Is he healing, expected to be fully recovered by opening day 2014?  And if so anybody care to speculate as to how he'll perform next year?

Rat
I would have to care about it first.
Hopefully he continues to make the state of California regret giving in to his greed.
I don't have any ill will toward Pujols for signing with the Angels.  Baseball is a business and players are entitled to make as much money as they can.

I just don't have any further interest in Pujols.  It is simple indifference.
Me either, I just hope he sucks
"It is by the goodness of God that in our country we have those 3 unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, & the prudence never to practice either of them." Mark Twain
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Posted: 11/16/2013 2:46 PM

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it seems pujols is recovering nicely and he says his foot is 99.9% healed.  during his run with the cards he was one of the best players in the game, and since the sting of losing him is gone, and b/c i love baseball, i hope he has an amazing season.

he'll probably never return to where he was in st. louis, but i think i nice 3 year run of dominance would be a joy to watch.

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A nice mature take on the situation, Duck. I'm just not quite there yet. I really hate rooting for ex-Birds to flop. Especially one such as Albert who provided so many thrills for we Cardinal fans for a decade+. Luckily my passion to see him flounder while wearing a non-Cardinal uni is starting to subside. That first year of his in Anaheim, the very first box score stat I checked each day was Albert's. I can't begin to explain the joy I derived from seeing all of those 0-fors next to his name. I'm not proud of those feelings, but those sentiments were real. I think now I'm getting to the point where if Albert puts up some good numbers in 2014 I won't lose any sleep over it......just don't put up those MVP numbers again Albert! Time does indeed heal.
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Posted: 11/17/2013 11:53 AM

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Instead of having any ill feelings toward him leaving, we should all be thankful he didn't accept even an 8/160 or some crazy "hometown discount" and thanking the Angels for giving him that so the Cards could end up with Wacha and Piscotty.  

For at least 6 more years, Wacha is going to be a cheap #2 or #1 type starter for the Cards.  And Piscotty could be one heck of a good RF'er with a combination of hitting for avg, 20 HR's, a few steals and a cannon of an arm from out there.  

So thank you to the Angels and Pujols for all that they provided the Cards!

WACHA WACHA!!
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Posted: 11/19/2013 2:37 PM

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Beopig wrote:
Hopefully he continues to make the state of California regret giving in to his greed.

When someone puts $240-$250 million in front of you, it's not greedy to accept it. Greed would be flaunting it and spend it all on yourself with none going to help others who are not so blessed.

As for his 2014 and onward, it would not surprise me at all to see Albert come back with a monster season. But there is no way he'll average the same numbers over the Angels portion of his career that he did with us.
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Posted: 11/19/2013 4:12 PM

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bicyclemike wrote:
Beopig wrote:
Hopefully he continues to make the state of California regret giving in to his greed.

When someone puts $240-$250 million in front of you, it's not greedy to accept it. Greed would be flaunting it and spend it all on yourself with none going to help others who are not so blessed.

As for his 2014 and onward, it would not surprise me at all to see Albert come back with a monster season. But there is no way he'll average the same numbers over the Angels portion of his career that he did with us.
What AP did was a greedy move.  No way to change that.
"It is by the goodness of God that in our country we have those 3 unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, & the prudence never to practice either of them." Mark Twain
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Posted: 11/19/2013 4:40 PM

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If you want to talk about "greed" associated with "baseball", look no further than Boston's Red Sox. Talk about hogging World Championships this past decade!
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Posted: 11/20/2013 11:16 AM

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Beopig wrote:
What AP did was a greedy move.  No way to change that.

We'll probably just disagree on this BP. I think greed has to do with how you manage the financial resources you have.

What AP did was exercise his right in a free market to choose his employer from among competing firms that wanted him in their organization. Most of us have done that, and some of us have done it a bunch of times. It's just that our choices are most likely in occupations where the compensation is not nearly as great as MLB.
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Posted: 11/20/2013 6:05 PM

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I wish him well except when playing the Cardinals.Pujols got a great deal of money and many resent that here.Nobody can say he didn`t do his best to earn it in STL or LA.Injuries finally broke him down.AP made his choice and Cards made theirs.I see no point in ripping the man.Cards are doing okay without him and the Angels will recover also.
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Posted: 11/21/2013 12:30 PM

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bicyclemike wrote:
Beopig wrote:
What AP did was a greedy move.  No way to change that.

We'll probably just disagree on this BP. I think greed has to do with how you manage the financial resources you have.

What AP did was exercise his right in a free market to choose his employer from among competing firms that wanted him in their organization. Most of us have done that, and some of us have done it a bunch of times. It's just that our choices are most likely in occupations where the compensation is not nearly as great as MLB.
I agree with bicyclemike 100%.  What Albert did was to accept the best business offer presented to him.  The Good Lord doesn't care how much money you earn, but He is interested in how much you spend on yourself versus how much your share with others!  Albert is generous with his time and money.

Albert Pujols was the best Cardinal player in my adult lifetime.  He provided many thrills and much excitement.  I wish him well in LA.
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Posted: 11/22/2013 10:54 AM

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bicyclemike wrote:
Beopig wrote:
What AP did was a greedy move.  No way to change that.

We'll probably just disagree on this BP. I think greed has to do with how you manage the financial resources you have.

What AP did was exercise his right in a free market to choose his employer from among competing firms that wanted him in their organization. Most of us have done that, and some of us have done it a bunch of times. It's just that our choices are most likely in occupations where the compensation is not nearly as great as MLB.
I am perfectly fine with players getting all they can.  Sometimes it is more about what they say and how they go about things.
"It is by the goodness of God that in our country we have those 3 unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, & the prudence never to practice either of them." Mark Twain
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Posted: 11/23/2013 8:42 PM

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I don't think you ever completely recover from the type of injury Albert has.
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Posted: 11/23/2013 9:35 PM

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Obviously his best years are behind him, but based on what I've seen the past two postseasons I don't see the Cardinals winning any championships without him.  Sad but true.
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Posted: 11/23/2013 10:11 PM

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SD70Mac wrote: Obviously his best years are behind him, but based on what I've seen the past two postseasons I don't see the Cardinals winning any championships without him.  Sad but true.
I am pretty sure they wouldn't have made it to the sixth game of the World Series without Michael Wacha. Pujols would have contributed nothing from the DL this fall, as his chronic foot injury is not team-specific.

As far as your prediction of the future goes, it is laughable to assert you speak the "truth" about events that have not yet occurred. Still, you certainly have the right to be proven wrong!
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Posted: 11/23/2013 11:03 PM

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SD70Mac wrote: Obviously his best years are behind him, but based on what I've seen the past two postseasons I don't see the Cardinals winning any championships without him.  Sad but true.
The Cardinals won championships before Albert came along. They can certainly win some after he left as well.
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