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bicyclemike wrote: I would hope that the current testing is done in such a way that it would be nearly impossible for a player to be able to use PEDs without getting caught.In my opinion, if Ortiz did some things in the past but is clean today, then it does not cast a dark cloud over the Series at all. He has been the difference in the Series though. He's easily the best player out there, and the main reason the Red Sox are within a game of winning the championship. Hopefully we have two games left, and he goes 0 for 8 the rest of the way and finishes with a still excellent .478 mark to lead the losing Red Sox in hitting.
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Domeboys wrote: This is not a reflection on Oritz, but a more generic point. As the writer mentioned, almost all of the Biogenesis group (who, except for A-Rod, accepted their 50 game suspensions without appeal) have apparently never failed a test. The users may remain a step or two ahead of the testers.
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bicyclemike wrote: Domeboys wrote: This is not a reflection on Oritz, but a more generic point. As the writer mentioned, almost all of the Biogenesis group (who, except for A-Rod, accepted their 50 game suspensions without appeal) have apparently never failed a test. The users may remain a step or two ahead of the testers. Didn't Ryan Braun fail?
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Bworth wrote: Can`t stand the guy.I thinks its funny how the guy sucked in Cleveland for years then goes to Boston where Manny Roid is a turns into a slugger and has the ESPN PR machine magnifying every hit to gigantic proportions.
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Jmodene1 wrote: Actually, it was Manny who went from Cleveland to Boston. Ortiz went to Boston after the Twins non-tendered him.Bworth wrote: Can`t stand the guy.I thinks its funny how the guy sucked in Cleveland for years then goes to Boston where Manny Roid is a turns into a slugger and has the ESPN PR machine magnifying every hit to gigantic proportions.
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diablo1111 wrote: Firstly let me send congrats to the St Louis Cards (the rightfull 2013 world champions. Please take note that I am not a Cards fan so my post is as an outside observer.David Ortiz 2 and 1/2 years ago was ready to be dumped by Boston. He had to cheat on fastballs to even get close to hitting them. He gained 43 lbs of muscle over last winter. Roids were found in his hummer with needles but they belonged to someone else and he was (day to day) when Boston was informed that the testers were coming.Jon Lester in 2012 was all done .482 era and anyone could hit the guy. He to ate well and gained 21 lbs over the winter(and several mph to his fastball and cutter).Buckholtz has already been caught and suspended for a few games for using foreign substances in his glove several times in his pro career.Jacoby was always fast but could not hit a baseball before his big weight gain in the 2010 off season. Then check his bat numbers for 2011-2013.Stephen drew is kicked off of 2 other teams and has done nothing above a .700 OPS since 2011 before his ahhemm muscle weight program of last winter and a ahhhemmm change to his batting stance.Mike Napoli traded away by Jays right after they picked him up takes on 27 lbs of muscle and has a 32 year old career year with Boston.Manager John Farrell was suspect when Jays players were conveniently on maternity leave or personal business leave or on the day to day DL when testing was to be done.Now to answer your question...There is no doubt in my mind that Boston Red Sox cheated their way to the 2013 world series but MLB loves it. Boston sells tickets and MLB merchandise galore as do the Yankees. Therefore those 2 teams can do whatever they like and get away with it. I will bet you right now that A-Rod wins his suit against MLB because he is as innocent as the snowflakes of God. Ya Right In closing once again Congrats to the Cards the best team in baseball in 2013. I am only sorry you don,t have a WS to show for it as you deserved it.
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pugsleyaddams wrote: Sweet! Wouldn't you love to see Sox and Diablo duke it out today in a war of words right here at The Cardinal Nation? Both look like pretty smart dudes and both appear to be pretty darn stubborn in their opinions. That's a pretty good recipe for an all out verbal donnybrook. Please gentlemen.....feel free to go at it! I think you're up, Diablo.
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