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2013 MLB game 150 thread: Cards at Rockies, Mon 9/16

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Posted: 9/15/2013 4:47 PM

2013 MLB game 150 thread: Cards at Rockies, Mon 9/16 


Lance Lynn (13‐10, 4.23) vs. Jorge De La Rosa (16‐6, 3.49). 7:40 PM CT. FOX Sports Midwest and KMOX.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 4:50 PM

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Lance Lynn and Coors Field is not a combination that maintains any sense of equanimity. Rather the opposite.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 4:53 PM

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We're lucky Miller didn't have a nod in one of these games at Colorado. That's even scarier than Lynn.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 5:20 PM

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DTFlush234 wrote: We're lucky Miller didn't have a nod in one of these games at Colorado. That's even scarier than Lynn.
Wacha has a 42% fly ball rate.  I won't be too comfortable with him either.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 5:31 PM

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We've gotten a ton of rain out here the last 5 days or so, as many of you have probably seen on the news. But they say this will turn around and we'll be warmer and drier Tuesday through Thursday, with a chance of a storm tomorrow. But I think the weather will be okay for tomorrow night's opener as it's supposedly "scattered" rain tomorrow.

I'll be at the game tomorrow, and Thursday afternoon. Unfortunately for us we got their best pitcher tomorrow night in De la Rosa, not too mention that he's a lefty. Lynn needs to have his strikeout pitch going if we're going to stay in it. And of course he needs to avoid looking overpowering for 3-4 innings, then get knocked all over the place the second or third time through the order.

Looking forward to seeing our guys in person. You always pick up a lot of little clues about a team and the players when you watch them in person, as opposed to watching on TV and relying solely on stats.

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Posted: 9/15/2013 5:35 PM

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This four game series scares me.  I am hoping and praying for a split.  I still remember that, what was it, a 9-3 lead we had a couple of years ago going into the last of the 9th only to lose.

The Pirates, who do they have next?  The Cubs go to Milwaukee, right?

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Posted: 9/15/2013 5:45 PM

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RatsBuddy wrote: This four game series scares me.  I am hoping and praying for a split.  I still remember that, what was it, a 9-3 lead we had a couple of years ago going into the last of the 9th only to lose.

The Pirates, who do they have next?  The Cubs go to Milwaukee, right?

Rat
First of all, that 9th inning meltdown was in 2010 and since then the Cardinals have a winning record at Coors Field (5-2).

Second of all, why should we care who the Cubs play?

The Pirates are playing the Padres at home.  The Padres won the series against the Pirates in San Diego.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 5:46 PM

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Of course, it was against the Rox that Miller had his 97-point game early this season.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 5:50 PM

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Jmodene1 wrote: Of course, it was against the Rox that Miller had his 97-point game early this season.
Yes, he did.  But with his 1.09 HR/9 and 40% fly ball rate, I wouldn't expect a repeat of that at Coors Field (if he were pitching there).

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Posted: 9/15/2013 6:29 PM

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Lance Lynn and Coors Field is not a combination that maintains any sense of equanimity. Rather the opposite.

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English only, JMo.....unless you want to spring a little Espanol on us....that's always welcome. "Equanimity" sounds like the #5 horse in the 6th race at Aqueduct.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 6:32 PM

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DTFlush234 wrote: We're lucky Miller didn't have a nod in one of these games at Colorado. That's even scarier than Lynn.
Wacha has a 42% fly ball rate.  I won't be too comfortable with him either.

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Don't let Crdswmn scare you, DT. Fair balls hit in the air off Wacha average 211 ft. League ave. is 239.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 6:40 PM

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pugsleyaddams wrote:

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DTFlush234 wrote: We're lucky Miller didn't have a nod in one of these games at Colorado. That's even scarier than Lynn.
Wacha has a 42% fly ball rate.  I won't be too comfortable with him either.

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Don't let Crdswmn scare you, DT. Fair balls hit in the air off Wacha average 211 ft. League ave. is 239.
Fair balls hit in the air at Coors Field are different than fair balls hit in the air anywhere else.  Now Pugs, you know that.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 7:08 PM

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Lance Lynn and Coors Field is not a combination that maintains any sense of equanimity. Rather the opposite.

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English only, JMo.....unless you want to spring a little Espanol on us....that's always welcome. "Equanimity" sounds like the #5 horse in the 6th race at Aqueduct.

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Nervous. Better?
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Posted: 9/15/2013 7:22 PM

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De La Rosa has an injured thumb and is not starting tomorrow.  Collin McHugh (0-1 10.80 ERA) is starting instead.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 7:41 PM

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crdswmn wrote: De La Rosa has an injured thumb and is not starting tomorrow.  Collin McHugh (0-1 10.80 ERA) is starting instead.


I hope he doesn't turn out to be Cy McHugh!
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Posted: 9/15/2013 7:50 PM

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De La Rosa has an injured thumb and is not starting tomorrow.  Collin McHugh (0-1 10.80 ERA) is starting instead.

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Great.....just what we needed.....an obscure and relatively untested young hurler....he'll be feeling like Randy Johnson facing John Kruk all night long. Honestly though, I wanted a piece of De La Rosa....I wanted our boys to beat him like a drum.

You're right Crdswmn.....I neglected to figure in the CFEF(That's"Coors Field Elevational Factor" to the layman).
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Posted: 9/15/2013 7:56 PM

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crdswmn wrote: De La Rosa has an injured thumb and is not starting tomorrow.  Collin McHugh (0-1 10.80 ERA) is starting instead.


Not familiar with this guy, but this could be a break for the Cards. But then we seem to have a knack for getting shut down by guys we haven't seen before.


CarGo is still out as well, and might not return in '13.

Todd Helton announced this will be it for his career though, so maybe that will give them a bit of an emotional lift as the Rockies will want to finish strong for Todd.

I'm thinking with this damp air we're having out here, Coors might play a little more like a "normal" ball park tomorrow. But it will be drier over the midweek days so by Thursday we could see balls flying all over the place.

That ninth inning meltdown a few years ago was tough to watch. But then I remember us doing that same thing, and I think it was even the same score with us down 9-3 going into the ninth, to the Reds a year or two before that. I remember John Mabry hit a big pinch hit 3 run bomb in the ninth as we rallied against Danny Graves. If I recall correctly, I think that game might have ended Graves' run as their closer as he had been struggling, and that game pretty much did him in.

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Posted: 9/15/2013 8:32 PM

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bicyclemike wrote:
crdswmn wrote: De La Rosa has an injured thumb and is not starting tomorrow.  Collin McHugh (0-1 10.80 ERA) is starting instead.


Not familiar with this guy, but this could be a break for the Cards. But then we seem to have a knack for getting shut down by guys we haven't seen before.


CarGo is still out as well, and might not return in '13.

Todd Helton announced this will be it for his career though, so maybe that will give them a bit of an emotional lift as the Rockies will want to finish strong for Todd.

I'm thinking with this damp air we're having out here, Coors might play a little more like a "normal" ball park tomorrow. But it will be drier over the midweek days so by Thursday we could see balls flying all over the place.

That ninth inning meltdown a few years ago was tough to watch. But then I remember us doing that same thing, and I think it was even the same score with us down 9-3 going into the ninth, to the Reds a year or two before that. I remember John Mabry hit a big pinch hit 3 run bomb in the ninth as we rallied against Danny Graves. If I recall correctly, I think that game might have ended Graves' run as their closer as he had been struggling, and that game pretty much did him in.

Looking at McHugh's pitch data on fangraphs, his curveball and his changeup are his best pitches.  His fastball velocity is around 90 mph.  He has a very high contact rate on pitches thrown outside the zone and fairly low swinging strike percentage.  Im guessing he gives up most of his hits and runs on the fastball.

So, the Cards hitters need to lay off the off speed pitches and sit on the fastball.
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Posted: 9/15/2013 9:37 PM

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pugsleyaddams wrote:

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Lance Lynn and Coors Field is not a combination that maintains any sense of equanimity. Rather the opposite.

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English only, JMo.....unless you want to spring a little Espanol on us....that's always welcome. "Equanimity" sounds like the #5 horse in the 6th race at Aqueduct.
Thought it was an America's Cup winner. wink  Lynn looked like he had some extra pop on his fastball last time out, was placing it better too. I hope he can find his landing spot and maintain it for another 6 weeks or so. We are going to need him in the playoffs.

GO CARDS!
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Posted: 9/16/2013 7:36 AM

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I've been waiting my whole life to see 'equanimity' used in a baseball conversation. Can you guys work in 'sangfroid' too?
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