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Cardinals day off thread: Mon 9/9

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Posted: 9/9/2013 10:05 AM

Cardinals day off thread: Mon 9/9 


This thread is for any Cardinals topic that you'd like to discuss on the off-day that isn't worthy of its own thread.
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Posted: 9/9/2013 11:30 AM

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Domeboys wrote: This thread is for any Cardinals topic that you'd like to discuss on the off-day that isn't worthy of its own thread.
Is it just me, or is there less activity on this forum after the Cardinals win than after they lose?


I think Shelby will pitch better tomorrow night.  I also think Lynn will do better as well.  Joe Kelly is walking a tightrope, as I have stated, but I will be optimistic and say we will win with him as well.  We are not facing Kyle Lohse in this series, which is good.

We will not face Felix Hernandez in the Mariners series.  However, we could see Iwakuma, who is very good.  If the Mariners know our tendencies against lefties, we could see James Paxton, who is a lefty and a rookie.  We could also see Taijuan Walker who is also a rookie, but a righty, and Joe Saunders, who we know and who is not very good.
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Posted: 9/9/2013 11:39 AM

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crdswmn wrote: Is it just me, or is there less activity on this forum after the Cardinals win than after they lose?



It is not just you because I think the same thing.
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Posted: 9/9/2013 11:44 AM

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forsch31 wrote:
crdswmn wrote: Is it just me, or is there less activity on this forum after the Cardinals win than after they lose?



It is not just you because I think the same thing.
You would think after we just swept the Pirates there would be much rejoicing.  I guess instead it is "I don't have anything to bitch about" so why bother?

I know it's an off day, but we generally have more activity than this.
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Posted: 9/9/2013 11:49 AM

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just people bitching that nobody is bitchingtongue
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Posted: 9/9/2013 11:51 AM

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grayssportsalmanac wrote: just people bitching that nobody is bitchingtongue
No, people bitching that nobody is talking good things after the weekend triumph.

I have never been in favor of more bitching.
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Posted: 9/9/2013 12:05 PM

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I am glad that the Cardinals have retaken control of their destiny. A 1.5 game lead with 19 games left is not much but at least we control things at this time.

I hope Wainwright has things straightened out if tipping his pitches was his only reason for doing poorly. I think Lynn CAN get things right in his head. Keep Kelly and Wacha pitching good.

Things are rosey again.
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Posted: 9/9/2013 12:06 PM

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crdswmn wrote:
Domeboys wrote: This thread is for any Cardinals topic that you'd like to discuss on the off-day that isn't worthy of its own thread.
Is it just me, or is there less activity on this forum after the Cardinals win than after they lose?


I think Shelby will pitch better tomorrow night.  I also think Lynn will do better as well.  Joe Kelly is walking a tightrope, as I have stated, but I will be optimistic and say we will win with him as well.  We are not facing Kyle Lohse in this series, which is good.

We will not face Felix Hernandez in the Mariners series.  However, we could see Iwakuma, who is very good.  If the Mariners know our tendencies against lefties, we could see James Paxton, who is a lefty and a rookie.  We could also see Taijuan Walker who is also a rookie, but a righty, and Joe Saunders, who we know and who is not very good.

Why do you think Lynn will do better? I think his body language is awful. Like he is always waiting for something bad to happen. He has the "stuff" but he thinks that's all he needs to do well.
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Posted: 9/9/2013 12:14 PM

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MAP315 wrote:
crdswmn wrote:
Domeboys wrote: This thread is for any Cardinals topic that you'd like to discuss on the off-day that isn't worthy of its own thread.
Is it just me, or is there less activity on this forum after the Cardinals win than after they lose?


I think Shelby will pitch better tomorrow night.  I also think Lynn will do better as well.  Joe Kelly is walking a tightrope, as I have stated, but I will be optimistic and say we will win with him as well.  We are not facing Kyle Lohse in this series, which is good.

We will not face Felix Hernandez in the Mariners series.  However, we could see Iwakuma, who is very good.  If the Mariners know our tendencies against lefties, we could see James Paxton, who is a lefty and a rookie.  We could also see Taijuan Walker who is also a rookie, but a righty, and Joe Saunders, who we know and who is not very good.

Why do you think Lynn will do better? I think his body language is awful. Like he is always waiting for something bad to happen. He has the "stuff" but he thinks that's all he needs to do well.
Because he has to know this is his last chance.
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Posted: 9/9/2013 12:15 PM

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forsch31 wrote: I am glad that the Cardinals have retaken control of their destiny. A 1.5 game lead with 19 games left is not much but at least we control things at this time.

I hope Wainwright has things straightened out if tipping his pitches was his only reason for doing poorly. I think Lynn CAN get things right in his head. Keep Kelly and Wacha pitching good.

Things are rosey again.
Wainwright also said he discovered some mechanical flaws as well which he corrected.
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Posted: 9/9/2013 12:22 PM

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Winning cures all, right? 

I hope the Cards come back tomorrow with the same urgency and crispness that was exhibited this weekend.  This 1.5 game lead can evaporate just as quickly as it happened. 

I think the four game set in Colorado as the last hump on the highway so the team just needs to take care of business at home against the Brewers and Mariners to make the Rockies series a little less than a "must" series.

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Posted: 9/9/2013 12:31 PM

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mike87114 wrote:

Winning cures all, right? 

I hope the Cards come back tomorrow with the same urgency and crispness that was exhibited this weekend.  This 1.5 game lead can evaporate just as quickly as it happened. 

I think the four game set in Colorado as the last hump on the highway so the team just needs to take care of business at home against the Brewers and Mariners to make the Rockies series a little less than a "must" series.

In 2011 the Cardinals were 2-1 at Coors Field.  In 2012, they were 3-1

Many are perhaps remembering prior seasons when the Cardinals were not so good at Coors Field.  2010 was especially bad as we were swept that series, which included the Ryan Franklin meltdown game.

Wainwright has a 1.08 ERA in 2 starts and a relief appearance at Coors Field, by the way.  He is scheduled to pitch there unless the rotation changes.

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Posted: 9/9/2013 12:34 PM

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Bring on Felix Hernandez! Ditto for De La Rosa or anyone else Colorado can trot out there. Do you know what's comforting? When it doesn't matter who the opposition sends to the hill vs your favorite team because you just know that your boys in all likelihood are going to prevail. Our Cardinals aren't quite there yet for us, but they could be next year.


PS.....I think it is just you, Crdswmn....oh and maybe Forschster too.
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Posted: 9/9/2013 12:35 PM

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On the activity after a win vs a loss, or series of wins or losses, I think it's human nature to comment more when a person has something to gripe about than when things are going well.

If things are going good, there's really not a lot to comment on other than sharing a thought or too on how well things are going. It's when things go wrong that people tend to analyze and put critical thought to work, which often gains synergy and carries on for awhile.

Those goofy radio policitcal commentary bozos would not have a show if they couldn't complain. Humans have a tendency to jump on that we think needs fixed and carrying on about it, while being (hopefully) thankful for that which goes right, but not saying much about it.

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Posted: 9/9/2013 12:50 PM

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I have always said that fans - even Cards fans - tend to take winning (even sweeping) for granted and instead focus on the losses, which they find totally unacceptable.
crdswmn wrote:
grayssportsalmanac wrote: just people bitching that nobody is bitchingtongue
No, people bitching that nobody is talking good things after the weekend triumph.

I have never been in favor of more bitching.
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Posted: 9/9/2013 12:56 PM

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bicyclemike wrote:

On the activity after a win vs a loss, or series of wins or losses, I think it's human nature to comment more when a person has something to gripe about than when things are going well.

If things are going good, there's really not a lot to comment on other than sharing a thought or too on how well things are going. It's when things go wrong that people tend to analyze and put critical thought to work, which often gains synergy and carries on for awhile.

Those goofy radio policitcal commentary bozos would not have a show if they couldn't complain. Humans have a tendency to jump on that we think needs fixed and carrying on about it, while being (hopefully) thankful for that which goes right, but not saying much about it.

Well, I endeavor to be different than most people.

I am trying to give folks cause for optimism in the rest of the schedule.  There are many good trends to consider.

I am going out for a little while to run some errands.  When I come back I am going to keep doing what I am doing.

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Posted: 9/9/2013 12:59 PM

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crdswmn wrote:
Domeboys wrote: This thread is for any Cardinals topic that you'd like to discuss on the off-day that isn't worthy of its own thread.
Is it just me, or is there less activity on this forum after the Cardinals win than after they lose?


I think Shelby will pitch better tomorrow night.  I also think Lynn will do better as well.  Joe Kelly is walking a tightrope, as I have stated, but I will be optimistic and say we will win with him as well.  We are not facing Kyle Lohse in this series, which is good.

We will not face Felix Hernandez in the Mariners series.  However, we could see Iwakuma, who is very good.  If the Mariners know our tendencies against lefties, we could see James Paxton, who is a lefty and a rookie.  We could also see Taijuan Walker who is also a rookie, but a righty, and Joe Saunders, who we know and who is not very good.
Ha, ha, Joe Kelly is walking a tight rope! Well, I hope he keeps walking for the rest of this season. 8-0, 1.75 ERA last 10 starts. Cardinals are 10-1 in his last 11 starts. Where would this team be right now without him?
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Posted: 9/9/2013 1:03 PM

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forsch31 wrote:
crdswmn wrote: Is it just me, or is there less activity on this forum after the Cardinals win than after they lose?



It is not just you because I think the same thing.
Without question there are more complaints after a Cardinal loss than there are compliments after a Cardinal win.  One reason could be it is easier to complain about someone, than it is to compliment someone. (Happens in the workplace all the time.) Secondly, some people refuse to acknowledge that the other teams are professional players as well; some being veteran pros who can play well.  As good as I think the Cardinals are (58% wins), the really bad teams still win a third of their games or more (Houston 33%, Marlins 38%, Cubs 42%).  In some minds, a 162-0 season is attainable!
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Posted: 9/9/2013 1:15 PM

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crdswmn wrote:
bicyclemike wrote:

On the activity after a win vs a loss, or series of wins or losses, I think it's human nature to comment more when a person has something to gripe about than when things are going well.

If things are going good, there's really not a lot to comment on other than sharing a thought or too on how well things are going. It's when things go wrong that people tend to analyze and put critical thought to work, which often gains synergy and carries on for awhile.

Those goofy radio policitcal commentary bozos would not have a show if they couldn't complain. Humans have a tendency to jump on that we think needs fixed and carrying on about it, while being (hopefully) thankful for that which goes right, but not saying much about it.

Well, I endeavor to be different than most people.

I am trying to give folks cause for optimism in the rest of the schedule.  There are many good trends to consider.

I am going out for a little while to run some errands.  When I come back I am going to keep doing what I am doing.

And that's good! I've always tried to be realistic in most any issue. If the Cardinals do not look that good, or they made what I think is a bad trade, I'll say so. If they are playing well or made a good deal, I'll say that as well.

At this point in the season, getting through those 13 straight games with the Pirates and Reds at 8 and 5, we are in a good place. We've only got 7 road games left and those are against sub-.500 teams. And even our home games are against sub-.500 teams other than Washington, which has been right around .500 or a bit above.

We could very well end up winning the division by 4 games or so when the dust settles.  But the caveat to that is my old tried and true saying "you never know". Baseball is a game where you never really can figure out how things will end up.
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Posted: 9/9/2013 1:46 PM

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Hopefully Lynn starts today then.
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